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@ Locke Cole: I am NOT doing crystalball. Everything in this article is based on the present. The height? Screen protectors labeled specifically for this phone. The cameras? Cases for this phone. The name? Why, the Apple website itself! Everything is based on real facts. The case is, in fact, designed for this iPhone alone. This is not from leakers. This is cold hard facts. I'm not crystalballer. Everything is based on the present. Some facts even come from Apple themselves! This is NOT a crystalball situation. I suggest you read through first and see what this is all about. - ◊PRAHLAD Balaji 17:15, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
5. Wikipedia is not a collection of product announcements and rumors. Although Wikipedia includes up-to-date knowledge about newly revealed products, short articles that consist of only product announcement information are not appropriate. Until such time that more encyclopedic knowledge about the product can be verified, product announcements should be merged to a larger topic (such as an article about the creator(s), a series of products, or a previous product) if applicable.). Even with a product announcement, we still need outside sources AFTER the announcement to provide us encyclopedic sources to make an article with. None of those exist. Also, you may want to make your case at the nomination page, not here. — Locke Cole • t • c 17:20, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
OK then. I will improve this article. - ◊PRAHLAD Balaji 17:29, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
iPhone SE (2020) and iPhone SE (2nd generation) have been proposed. Please don't move the article to a different title without discussing it. I don't think the title matters much, but it is likely that Apple's official designation will prevail. —DIYeditor ( talk) 01:46, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
17jiangz1, GODUBNATION, GeoffreyT2000, Admanny: Not sure why there have been continued page moves on this article when there is an ongoing discussion about it on the talk page and the title has been disputed. I think I prefer the "2nd generation" but please come to talk page consensus before doing any more moves on this. —DIYeditor ( talk) 15:57, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
@ Prahlad balaji: 🤡? What are you doing? —DIYeditor ( talk) 19:39, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
A quick visit to the Apple home page https://www.apple.com as of 4/18/2020 reveals that the official name is the iPhone SE, with the SE stylized in a rounded-corner box, precisely like the original iPhone SE. There is no mention of the words "Second Generation" on the entire page, though it is the second generation, as found elsewhere on the Apple website. This new phone is simply the latest in the series of iPhone SE.
Thus both generations of the iPhone SE should be on one page, just as all seven generations of the iPod Touch are on one page and all six generations of the Ford Explorer are on one page.
The iPhone SE 1st Generation page and 2nd Generation page should both be deleted with their contents consolidated to a single iPhone SE article. 146.115.70.68 ( talk) 04:38, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Don't merge the articles together. The 2 articles are similar in name only. - ◊PRAHLAD Balaji 14:18, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved. The question of the common name is not easy to answer, but the editors in this discussion prefer iPhone SE (2nd generation) by a wide margin. Apple doesn't provide much help on the naming, since for them this is just the new 'iPhone SE'. EdJohnston ( talk) 01:53, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
IPhone SE (2nd generation) →
iPhone SE (2020) – Move warring. Please use this thread to reach agreement on what the title should be. I have no opinion myself but the war needs to stop.
EdJohnston (
talk) 19:46, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Precision – The title unambiguously identifies the article's subject and distinguishes it from other subjects. Again, using the year as the specifier is an artificial construction used by news sites to assist with them being found more quickly by readers using sites like Google. It has no bearing on the actual name of the product. If another iPhone SE is released this year for some reason, we will then be in the enviable position of having to justify having convoluted article titles like iPhone SE (2020, April) and iPhone SE (2020, December) or some such nonsense. When the logical path is to use the name the manufacturer has given, one that businesses are using to sell it by, and leave titles like iPhone SE (2020) as fodder for redirects to assist our readers with finding the relevant article under its correct name. — Locke Cole • t • c 07:19, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
Use commonly recognizable names - Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly usedkind of overrides that rule. Most people will refer to the iPhone SE as the iPhone SE 2020 or the new iPhone SE, not the second generation iPhone SE. ITSQUIETUPTOWN talk • contribs 05:01, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
I also want to change the title of IPhone SE (2nd generation) too. It will be confusing for other people. Change it to IPhone SE if everybody agrees. Robloxloverandminecraftlover ( talk) 12:01, 24 April 2020 (UTC)Robloxloverandminecraftlover
Can we close this conversation since it has not been discussed for a while -- 67.174.99.43 ( talk) 16:35, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect IPhone 9 Plus. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. feminist Wear a mask to protect everyone 03:15, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Could the iPhone SE be considered its own line of iPhone? Apple specifically refers to the new iPhone SE as the second-generation. This makes me wonder if iPhone SE has become its own product line. Could we possibly change the generation number to 2nd? NiSaBo ( talk) 04:24, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
@ NiSaBo: No. Apple themselves don't consider the iPhone SE to be its own special lineup, so we shouldn't either. - ◊PRAHLAD Balaji 20:24, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi all, I just wanted to clear something up about the name of the second generation of the iPhone SE, as a new owner of one.
For those of you who still think that the article should be titled as 'iPhone SE (2020)', the picture next to this text (which is my OWN work) is proof that Apple does, in fact, designate the new iPhone SE as 'iPhone SE (2nd generation)', so retaining the current article name was the right move. Eightsixofakina ( talk) 18:28, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
IPhone 9. The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 4#iPhone 9 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. I'm notifying you since you edited this redirect a few months ago.
Mz7 (
talk) 21:42, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
For example as of right now the iPhone SE's latest official software is ios 14.5.1 not 14.5 Mannysoloway ( talk) 00:27, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
See
https://support.apple.com/de-de/guide/security/sec8a67fa93d/web
Should the XR be added to the related section as they have the same camera and the Same paint scheme on the sides? Corrib Oil ( talk) 17:11, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address redirect
IPhone 8 (2nd generation) and has thus listed it
for discussion. This discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 10#iPhone 8 (2nd generation) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. --
Hajoon0102
💬 05:32, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
![]() | This article was nominated for deletion on 3 January 2019. The result of the discussion was draftify 3 articles (including iPhone 12 and iOS 14). |
![]() | This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||
|
![]() | This article is written in American English, which has its own spelling conventions (color, defense, traveled) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
@ Locke Cole: I am NOT doing crystalball. Everything in this article is based on the present. The height? Screen protectors labeled specifically for this phone. The cameras? Cases for this phone. The name? Why, the Apple website itself! Everything is based on real facts. The case is, in fact, designed for this iPhone alone. This is not from leakers. This is cold hard facts. I'm not crystalballer. Everything is based on the present. Some facts even come from Apple themselves! This is NOT a crystalball situation. I suggest you read through first and see what this is all about. - ◊PRAHLAD Balaji 17:15, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
5. Wikipedia is not a collection of product announcements and rumors. Although Wikipedia includes up-to-date knowledge about newly revealed products, short articles that consist of only product announcement information are not appropriate. Until such time that more encyclopedic knowledge about the product can be verified, product announcements should be merged to a larger topic (such as an article about the creator(s), a series of products, or a previous product) if applicable.). Even with a product announcement, we still need outside sources AFTER the announcement to provide us encyclopedic sources to make an article with. None of those exist. Also, you may want to make your case at the nomination page, not here. — Locke Cole • t • c 17:20, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
OK then. I will improve this article. - ◊PRAHLAD Balaji 17:29, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
iPhone SE (2020) and iPhone SE (2nd generation) have been proposed. Please don't move the article to a different title without discussing it. I don't think the title matters much, but it is likely that Apple's official designation will prevail. —DIYeditor ( talk) 01:46, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
17jiangz1, GODUBNATION, GeoffreyT2000, Admanny: Not sure why there have been continued page moves on this article when there is an ongoing discussion about it on the talk page and the title has been disputed. I think I prefer the "2nd generation" but please come to talk page consensus before doing any more moves on this. —DIYeditor ( talk) 15:57, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
@ Prahlad balaji: 🤡? What are you doing? —DIYeditor ( talk) 19:39, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
A quick visit to the Apple home page https://www.apple.com as of 4/18/2020 reveals that the official name is the iPhone SE, with the SE stylized in a rounded-corner box, precisely like the original iPhone SE. There is no mention of the words "Second Generation" on the entire page, though it is the second generation, as found elsewhere on the Apple website. This new phone is simply the latest in the series of iPhone SE.
Thus both generations of the iPhone SE should be on one page, just as all seven generations of the iPod Touch are on one page and all six generations of the Ford Explorer are on one page.
The iPhone SE 1st Generation page and 2nd Generation page should both be deleted with their contents consolidated to a single iPhone SE article. 146.115.70.68 ( talk) 04:38, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Don't merge the articles together. The 2 articles are similar in name only. - ◊PRAHLAD Balaji 14:18, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved. The question of the common name is not easy to answer, but the editors in this discussion prefer iPhone SE (2nd generation) by a wide margin. Apple doesn't provide much help on the naming, since for them this is just the new 'iPhone SE'. EdJohnston ( talk) 01:53, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
IPhone SE (2nd generation) →
iPhone SE (2020) – Move warring. Please use this thread to reach agreement on what the title should be. I have no opinion myself but the war needs to stop.
EdJohnston (
talk) 19:46, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Precision – The title unambiguously identifies the article's subject and distinguishes it from other subjects. Again, using the year as the specifier is an artificial construction used by news sites to assist with them being found more quickly by readers using sites like Google. It has no bearing on the actual name of the product. If another iPhone SE is released this year for some reason, we will then be in the enviable position of having to justify having convoluted article titles like iPhone SE (2020, April) and iPhone SE (2020, December) or some such nonsense. When the logical path is to use the name the manufacturer has given, one that businesses are using to sell it by, and leave titles like iPhone SE (2020) as fodder for redirects to assist our readers with finding the relevant article under its correct name. — Locke Cole • t • c 07:19, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
Use commonly recognizable names - Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly usedkind of overrides that rule. Most people will refer to the iPhone SE as the iPhone SE 2020 or the new iPhone SE, not the second generation iPhone SE. ITSQUIETUPTOWN talk • contribs 05:01, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
I also want to change the title of IPhone SE (2nd generation) too. It will be confusing for other people. Change it to IPhone SE if everybody agrees. Robloxloverandminecraftlover ( talk) 12:01, 24 April 2020 (UTC)Robloxloverandminecraftlover
Can we close this conversation since it has not been discussed for a while -- 67.174.99.43 ( talk) 16:35, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect IPhone 9 Plus. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. feminist Wear a mask to protect everyone 03:15, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Could the iPhone SE be considered its own line of iPhone? Apple specifically refers to the new iPhone SE as the second-generation. This makes me wonder if iPhone SE has become its own product line. Could we possibly change the generation number to 2nd? NiSaBo ( talk) 04:24, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
@ NiSaBo: No. Apple themselves don't consider the iPhone SE to be its own special lineup, so we shouldn't either. - ◊PRAHLAD Balaji 20:24, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi all, I just wanted to clear something up about the name of the second generation of the iPhone SE, as a new owner of one.
For those of you who still think that the article should be titled as 'iPhone SE (2020)', the picture next to this text (which is my OWN work) is proof that Apple does, in fact, designate the new iPhone SE as 'iPhone SE (2nd generation)', so retaining the current article name was the right move. Eightsixofakina ( talk) 18:28, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
IPhone 9. The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 4#iPhone 9 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. I'm notifying you since you edited this redirect a few months ago.
Mz7 (
talk) 21:42, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
For example as of right now the iPhone SE's latest official software is ios 14.5.1 not 14.5 Mannysoloway ( talk) 00:27, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
See
https://support.apple.com/de-de/guide/security/sec8a67fa93d/web
Should the XR be added to the related section as they have the same camera and the Same paint scheme on the sides? Corrib Oil ( talk) 17:11, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address redirect
IPhone 8 (2nd generation) and has thus listed it
for discussion. This discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 10#iPhone 8 (2nd generation) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. --
Hajoon0102
💬 05:32, 15 March 2022 (UTC)