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Is this 10th generation? -- Jobu0101 ( talk) 16:12, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
No. 115.66.29.26 ( talk) 11:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC) 115.66.29.26
Hello, everyone
While the use of articles in English can sometimes be tricky, I expect any editor should know the basic rules of it. For the starter, you can study WP:THE and the Grammar Girl article " When to Use Articles Before Nouns". For a more thorough reading, you can consult a grammar book like Advanced Grammar in Use chapters 44 through 47 or Modern English: A Practical Reference Guide chapter 7.
But the basic rule is: Proper nouns, definite names and plural nouns do not need a definite article. So, most of the times, it is "iPhone" not "the iPhone".
There are two exceptions:
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk) 14:15, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Branding gurus defend the "the" omission. "When you can drop an article, the brand takes on a more iconic feel," argues Allen Adamson, managing director of WPP Group PLC's branding agency, Landor Associates. But grammarians disagree. Theodore Bernstein's 1965 tome "The Careful Writer," dedicates two pages to omitting articles, which he called a "disfigurement of the language." He warns: "When the writer is tempted to lop it off, he should ask himself whether he would as readily delete the other articles in his sentence. Would we write, 'Main feature of combined first floors of new building will be spacious hospitality area'? Obviously not." The Wall Street Journal style calls for inserting articles before product names, except in quotations, even if companies omit them, says stylebook editor Paul Martin."
This article was written by some iphone fanboy who despises that particular model for whatever reasons fanboys despise things. It is far from neutral. Every other sentence implies or even clearly states that this is some "backward" model. Such as "it will be a generation behind iphone 7". It doesn't mention the fact that "a generation behind" actually means "five months ago". It also talks about this model as "entry level" and "low cost" neither of which is true, unless of course you, like all other fanboys, compare the most expensive model of iphone 6s with the cheapest one of iphone SE. In general, this article has a pungent stink of "early adopter" attitude, as in "you idiots still use that ancient 6-months old crap". It also fails to mention the sales success of this model all over the world. Putting it very politely, it's not very encyclopedic. Le Grand Bleu ( talk) 08:43, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Rumors are that Apple will announce the iPhone SE 2, or the 128 GB version, by the end of March in a special event in Cupertino, CA. Any information regarding this and any information that should added about this at the moment? 173.170.94.104 ( talk) 01:10, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
The current succession box needs clarification.
If the succession box is based on release date (as shown by the |years=2016
), then {{{before}}}
should refer to iPhone 6S and {{{after}}}
should refer to iPhone 7.
If the succession box is based on the 4-inch iPhone series (as shown by the |before=iPhone 5S
), then {{{after}}}
should be empty and iPhone SE is still the newest in line. —
Peter
why 07:28, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
The first sentence says it is 'a' smartphone, however it then talks about options for the 'singlular' smartphone. Which is it? -- ZhuLien ( talk) 23:38, 08 November 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.141.11 ( talk)
I don't think the "not to be confused with' line is needed. They don't sound the same, don't exist in the same context, and are not interchangeable. It's like having "Not to be confused with iPhone 8" on the Galaxy S8 page.
Hi We couldn't write that iPhone SE is the successor of iPhone 6s. @ Cards84664: continued to add unsourced information and he claim that sources are not needed. All sources, said that iPhone 7 is the successor of iPhone 6s. -- Panam2014 ( talk) 14:50, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, the quote above should be quoted as an opinion/guess instead of a fact because it has never been confirmed by Apple. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Contributer7 ( talk • contribs) 14:21, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
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Shouldn't a render of the iPhone SE in rose gold color be used instead of the current one, which is in silver and can be easily mistaken for a render of the iPhone 5s? -- 93.42.68.194 ( talk) 16:10, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
iPhone SE (2016) → IPhone SE (1st generation) – Name should be in line with iPhone SE (2nd generation). Ghostofakina ( talk) 22:59, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Moved. - ◊PRAHLAD Balaji 02:09, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Actually, the related article is called iPhone SE (2020). Moving it back. - ◊PRAHLAD Balaji 02:11, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Moved to iPhone SE (1st generation). - ◊PRAHLAD Balaji 15:34, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect IPhone SE. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:11, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Apple, a company that made, named, and marketed the iPhone SE, has mentioned in their website that the name of the phone is "iPhone SE (1st generation)."
It's been moved. - ◊PRAHLAD Balaji 19:24, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
The wikipage has been edited recently with the following content - "But won’t get IOS 15 in 2021" There is no citation for this info. HardeeHar ( talk) 16:10, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
In the right-hand tombstone, “Predecessor” is listed as “iPhone 5C”. This is wrong. In body it is, severally times, correctly cited as derived based n the “5S”. Please fix the Predecessor in the summary box. 67.81.110.141 ( talk) 20:54, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
In 2016 2001:99A:80D:7700:95DB:EDBF:F247:7EEB ( talk) 16:52, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
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Is this 10th generation? -- Jobu0101 ( talk) 16:12, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
No. 115.66.29.26 ( talk) 11:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC) 115.66.29.26
Hello, everyone
While the use of articles in English can sometimes be tricky, I expect any editor should know the basic rules of it. For the starter, you can study WP:THE and the Grammar Girl article " When to Use Articles Before Nouns". For a more thorough reading, you can consult a grammar book like Advanced Grammar in Use chapters 44 through 47 or Modern English: A Practical Reference Guide chapter 7.
But the basic rule is: Proper nouns, definite names and plural nouns do not need a definite article. So, most of the times, it is "iPhone" not "the iPhone".
There are two exceptions:
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk) 14:15, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Branding gurus defend the "the" omission. "When you can drop an article, the brand takes on a more iconic feel," argues Allen Adamson, managing director of WPP Group PLC's branding agency, Landor Associates. But grammarians disagree. Theodore Bernstein's 1965 tome "The Careful Writer," dedicates two pages to omitting articles, which he called a "disfigurement of the language." He warns: "When the writer is tempted to lop it off, he should ask himself whether he would as readily delete the other articles in his sentence. Would we write, 'Main feature of combined first floors of new building will be spacious hospitality area'? Obviously not." The Wall Street Journal style calls for inserting articles before product names, except in quotations, even if companies omit them, says stylebook editor Paul Martin."
This article was written by some iphone fanboy who despises that particular model for whatever reasons fanboys despise things. It is far from neutral. Every other sentence implies or even clearly states that this is some "backward" model. Such as "it will be a generation behind iphone 7". It doesn't mention the fact that "a generation behind" actually means "five months ago". It also talks about this model as "entry level" and "low cost" neither of which is true, unless of course you, like all other fanboys, compare the most expensive model of iphone 6s with the cheapest one of iphone SE. In general, this article has a pungent stink of "early adopter" attitude, as in "you idiots still use that ancient 6-months old crap". It also fails to mention the sales success of this model all over the world. Putting it very politely, it's not very encyclopedic. Le Grand Bleu ( talk) 08:43, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Rumors are that Apple will announce the iPhone SE 2, or the 128 GB version, by the end of March in a special event in Cupertino, CA. Any information regarding this and any information that should added about this at the moment? 173.170.94.104 ( talk) 01:10, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
The current succession box needs clarification.
If the succession box is based on release date (as shown by the |years=2016
), then {{{before}}}
should refer to iPhone 6S and {{{after}}}
should refer to iPhone 7.
If the succession box is based on the 4-inch iPhone series (as shown by the |before=iPhone 5S
), then {{{after}}}
should be empty and iPhone SE is still the newest in line. —
Peter
why 07:28, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
The first sentence says it is 'a' smartphone, however it then talks about options for the 'singlular' smartphone. Which is it? -- ZhuLien ( talk) 23:38, 08 November 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.141.11 ( talk)
I don't think the "not to be confused with' line is needed. They don't sound the same, don't exist in the same context, and are not interchangeable. It's like having "Not to be confused with iPhone 8" on the Galaxy S8 page.
Hi We couldn't write that iPhone SE is the successor of iPhone 6s. @ Cards84664: continued to add unsourced information and he claim that sources are not needed. All sources, said that iPhone 7 is the successor of iPhone 6s. -- Panam2014 ( talk) 14:50, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion:
You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 18:50, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi, the quote above should be quoted as an opinion/guess instead of a fact because it has never been confirmed by Apple. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Contributer7 ( talk • contribs) 14:21, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion:
You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 04:51, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
Shouldn't a render of the iPhone SE in rose gold color be used instead of the current one, which is in silver and can be easily mistaken for a render of the iPhone 5s? -- 93.42.68.194 ( talk) 16:10, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
iPhone SE (2016) → IPhone SE (1st generation) – Name should be in line with iPhone SE (2nd generation). Ghostofakina ( talk) 22:59, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Moved. - ◊PRAHLAD Balaji 02:09, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Actually, the related article is called iPhone SE (2020). Moving it back. - ◊PRAHLAD Balaji 02:11, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Moved to iPhone SE (1st generation). - ◊PRAHLAD Balaji 15:34, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect IPhone SE. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:11, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Apple, a company that made, named, and marketed the iPhone SE, has mentioned in their website that the name of the phone is "iPhone SE (1st generation)."
It's been moved. - ◊PRAHLAD Balaji 19:24, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
The wikipage has been edited recently with the following content - "But won’t get IOS 15 in 2021" There is no citation for this info. HardeeHar ( talk) 16:10, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
In the right-hand tombstone, “Predecessor” is listed as “iPhone 5C”. This is wrong. In body it is, severally times, correctly cited as derived based n the “5S”. Please fix the Predecessor in the summary box. 67.81.110.141 ( talk) 20:54, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
In 2016 2001:99A:80D:7700:95DB:EDBF:F247:7EEB ( talk) 16:52, 29 September 2023 (UTC)