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Please don’t change this 173.252.3.211 ( talk) 10:08, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Apple confirmed at WWDC 2023 that it would be released in fall 2023. so Please don’t change the date back 173.252.3.211 ( talk) 10:14, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
@ Prrfan please don’t change the iOS 17 page 173.252.3.211 ( talk) 17:31, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
@ PRRfan please don’t change the IOS 17 page 173.252.3.211 ( talk) 17:32, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
173.252.3.211, who has a history (see above) of odd edits and requests, has now reverted a series of well-founded changes without explanation beyond the edit summary "Fixed." Kindly explain yourself, 173.252.3.211; you may start with any one of the well-explained edits. PRRfan ( talk) 19:49, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
None of our iOS articles stand out as particularly great, and we're starting off the wrong foot here too. It's one thing for old articles to have unfixed issues, but please, let's avoid creating more work down the line if we can:
I'm wondering whether we should start reverting non-cited changes, because these kinds of additions take just as much work to fix, if not more, than just writing from scratch. Windows 10 is what we should be aiming for, not imitating other low-quality iOS articles. DFlhb ( talk) 14:29, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
The article says Sept 18th, but it seems that it was out today. At least that is what it told me. Gah4 ( talk) 03:37, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
There has been a lot of mention in the media about iOS 17 potentially supporting the sideloading of apps. There is no mention of this in the article. Does the latest version currently support it? Félix An ( talk) 02:24, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
So you probably know about the 3 step update program of apple : first there is a beta, then the RC, then the stable releases. Should the RCs be considered versions or previews ? (for the quick facts box) YWALT.JS ( talk) 20:45, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
I propose that we move the features to a new article titled "Features new to iOS 17" or something similar. Mseingth2133444 ( talk) 00:42, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
This article has many issues, and I'm trying to improve it to at least C class. Here's my plan to improve it:
This should be a collaborative effort, as one person cannot do it themselves (I tried it myself, like I said earlier). I'm inviting contributors to commit to and comment on this plan. I will also be pinging major contributors (@ Guy Harris, @ ItsCheck, @ DFlhb, @ Gah4, @ PRRfan, @ Hajoon0102) to do the same. Mseingth2133444 ( Did I mess up? Let me know here | Thank me here) 01:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
critics also praised the improvements? Duh, it has more features. They
criticizedthe delay for the Journal app? The citations don't do that, but setting that aside: so what? Any analysis of Apple's pace of yearly releases, or claims that it's an unsustainable pace, or analysis of whether there are more delayed features than there used to be? Anything at all of encyclopedic value? (Answer: no, phone OS releases are too minor to give us much encyclopedic substance). What are people's feelings on a partial merge or redirect to iOS version history or iOS? The early versions of iOS were notable but at this point it feels like we're just going through the motions without checking the merits of creating these new articles. DFlhb ( talk) 08:56, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
I think this article should be reclassed as it no longer makes sense to be Start Class to me. Mseingth2133444 ( Did I mess up? Let me know here | Thank me here) 15:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
I rewrote the article after this comment was made, so take this as outdated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by That guy who plays games ( talk • contribs) 01:54, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
I think support devices should highlight that the iPhone X and iPhone 8 Plus were dropped, rather than the generic references "first iPhone without Home button" and "last iPhone with 5.5 inch screen." People don't really know what the Apple A10 is; it just so happens that the dropped devices were 6 years old. The current listing will support new iPhones in the future... Shencypeter ( talk) 09:08, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
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Please don’t change this 173.252.3.211 ( talk) 10:08, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Apple confirmed at WWDC 2023 that it would be released in fall 2023. so Please don’t change the date back 173.252.3.211 ( talk) 10:14, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
@ Prrfan please don’t change the iOS 17 page 173.252.3.211 ( talk) 17:31, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
@ PRRfan please don’t change the IOS 17 page 173.252.3.211 ( talk) 17:32, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
173.252.3.211, who has a history (see above) of odd edits and requests, has now reverted a series of well-founded changes without explanation beyond the edit summary "Fixed." Kindly explain yourself, 173.252.3.211; you may start with any one of the well-explained edits. PRRfan ( talk) 19:49, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
None of our iOS articles stand out as particularly great, and we're starting off the wrong foot here too. It's one thing for old articles to have unfixed issues, but please, let's avoid creating more work down the line if we can:
I'm wondering whether we should start reverting non-cited changes, because these kinds of additions take just as much work to fix, if not more, than just writing from scratch. Windows 10 is what we should be aiming for, not imitating other low-quality iOS articles. DFlhb ( talk) 14:29, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
The article says Sept 18th, but it seems that it was out today. At least that is what it told me. Gah4 ( talk) 03:37, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
There has been a lot of mention in the media about iOS 17 potentially supporting the sideloading of apps. There is no mention of this in the article. Does the latest version currently support it? Félix An ( talk) 02:24, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
So you probably know about the 3 step update program of apple : first there is a beta, then the RC, then the stable releases. Should the RCs be considered versions or previews ? (for the quick facts box) YWALT.JS ( talk) 20:45, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
I propose that we move the features to a new article titled "Features new to iOS 17" or something similar. Mseingth2133444 ( talk) 00:42, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
This article has many issues, and I'm trying to improve it to at least C class. Here's my plan to improve it:
This should be a collaborative effort, as one person cannot do it themselves (I tried it myself, like I said earlier). I'm inviting contributors to commit to and comment on this plan. I will also be pinging major contributors (@ Guy Harris, @ ItsCheck, @ DFlhb, @ Gah4, @ PRRfan, @ Hajoon0102) to do the same. Mseingth2133444 ( Did I mess up? Let me know here | Thank me here) 01:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
critics also praised the improvements? Duh, it has more features. They
criticizedthe delay for the Journal app? The citations don't do that, but setting that aside: so what? Any analysis of Apple's pace of yearly releases, or claims that it's an unsustainable pace, or analysis of whether there are more delayed features than there used to be? Anything at all of encyclopedic value? (Answer: no, phone OS releases are too minor to give us much encyclopedic substance). What are people's feelings on a partial merge or redirect to iOS version history or iOS? The early versions of iOS were notable but at this point it feels like we're just going through the motions without checking the merits of creating these new articles. DFlhb ( talk) 08:56, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
I think this article should be reclassed as it no longer makes sense to be Start Class to me. Mseingth2133444 ( Did I mess up? Let me know here | Thank me here) 15:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
I rewrote the article after this comment was made, so take this as outdated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by That guy who plays games ( talk • contribs) 01:54, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
I think support devices should highlight that the iPhone X and iPhone 8 Plus were dropped, rather than the generic references "first iPhone without Home button" and "last iPhone with 5.5 inch screen." People don't really know what the Apple A10 is; it just so happens that the dropped devices were 6 years old. The current listing will support new iPhones in the future... Shencypeter ( talk) 09:08, 8 March 2024 (UTC)