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Baring-Gould makes it clear that, while the hagiographic tradition varies somewhat from the historical and Arthurian ones, they're talking about the exact same legendary figure: a princely refugee from Brittany, named "Hywel" son of "Emyr Llydaw", participating in the Arthurian romances. —
LlywelynII13:41, 2 December 2014 (UTC)reply
There's probably no need for separate articles if sources discuss them as the same figure (or even related variants). The article needs a lot of work, though.--
Cúchullaint/
c20:51, 2 December 2014 (UTC)reply
I don't think an RfC is necessary, there's not much to discuss here. The
Saint Hywel article is in such a state that there's not much to merge anyway. A redirect with sentence siting Baring-Gould as saying the figures are the same should suffice.--
Cúchullaint/
c03:08, 3 December 2014 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Other Hoels
The saint and legendary king are probably this guy, but
Baring-Gould suggests that "Riwal" in Domnonia was probably a "King (=rhi) Hoel" around the same time. This may have been the Hoel encountered by
Saint Malo, who tended to hang out on the north coast. —
LlywelynII15:24, 2 December 2014 (UTC)reply
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Baring-Gould makes it clear that, while the hagiographic tradition varies somewhat from the historical and Arthurian ones, they're talking about the exact same legendary figure: a princely refugee from Brittany, named "Hywel" son of "Emyr Llydaw", participating in the Arthurian romances. —
LlywelynII13:41, 2 December 2014 (UTC)reply
There's probably no need for separate articles if sources discuss them as the same figure (or even related variants). The article needs a lot of work, though.--
Cúchullaint/
c20:51, 2 December 2014 (UTC)reply
I don't think an RfC is necessary, there's not much to discuss here. The
Saint Hywel article is in such a state that there's not much to merge anyway. A redirect with sentence siting Baring-Gould as saying the figures are the same should suffice.--
Cúchullaint/
c03:08, 3 December 2014 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Other Hoels
The saint and legendary king are probably this guy, but
Baring-Gould suggests that "Riwal" in Domnonia was probably a "King (=rhi) Hoel" around the same time. This may have been the Hoel encountered by
Saint Malo, who tended to hang out on the north coast. —
LlywelynII15:24, 2 December 2014 (UTC)reply