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For discussions and references to further literature see: A. D. Nock, Essays on religion and the ancient world, Oxford 1972, 416-430; M. Hengel, Judaism and Hellenism, London 1974, 1.295ff.; G. Bertram in G. Kittel (ed.), Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, Grand Rapids 1964-76, 8.618-619. 68.40.135.98 ( talk) 06:49, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
This article is generally a crude rehash of the Catholic Encyclopedia Article. I was able to detect this before even having read the Catholic Encyclopedia article (the various citations). This needs to be cleaned up quite a bit. -- Ambrosiaster ( talk) 06:46, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
There are several areas which require some references, and some areas which sound like original research. 72.66.50.207 ( talk) 02:13, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
We're all Hypsistarians, as every painting is a canvass. I'm with Goethe, except...what can yo do with a blank canvass? Paint on it, I guess. Geometrical designs only? Cherubim? Anyhow, it's an interesting article and it certainly deserves to be well researched. Somebody get on and do it, please! McZeus ( talk) 21:59, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Stmt is rather preposterous and really needs citation:
It seems like a reasonable leap of mind, unless one is editing a desert dry net encyclopedia, and unless one sits with the competing theory that the main converting group to christianity were the hellenized jews and their contacts. The statement is wild speculation, and undue synthesis given the background material. I dislike it. Rursus dixit. ( mbork3!) 08:30, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
Until the publication of Pagan Monotheism in late antiquity and similar books, it was assumed that Pagan Monotheism was an oxymoron. A great deal of work has confirmed the identity of Hypsistarians as part of a general move in antiquity towards monotheism. Theres no requirement to assert the identity of Hypsistarians as Jewish sympathisers also known as Theophobes (God-fearers). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.221.10.38 ( talk) 16:17, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
Evidence has been found that now proves the worship of the Hypsistos (Theos/Zeus Hysistos) in Greece predates Christianity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.137.36.230 ( talk) 09:56, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Finds in Dion, Greek Macedonia have confirmed the existence of Hypsistarians prior to the normal appearence in texts around 200bce. This confirms the indigenous origin of Greek monotheism, before the completion of the Septugant. Xenophanes 570bce is regarded as the first western monotheist and the Greek philosophical tradition followed suit. Until the discovery of the sanctuary of Zeus Hypsistos at Dion it was thought Monotheism was the sphere of philosophy only. Claims that Hypsistarian sanctuaries were also used by Hebrews as synagogues has been successfully refuted. A further point made in 'Pagan Monotheism in late antiquity confirms the Hypsistarians were exclusive monotheists and not merely Henotheists. When I get more time I'll get references but the article needs a revision in the light of the new findings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.221.10.38 ( talk) 15:14, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
The term 'Most-High' is only ever applied to Zeus and never to any other Greek God and only in the context of a distinct cult. It is a specific title indicating the monotheistic sect of Hypsistarians and is not a mere superlative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.25.109.197 ( talk) 10:26, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
is there an etymological connection, or is it just an easy back-construction? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.76.179.81 ( talk) 04:33, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
I really wonder if this would be better as a paragraph under another article - Hellenistic monotheism, or something? In ictu oculi ( talk) 22:34, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
An article for Hellenistic Monotheism would be interesting and could also inclide Hermetism, the cults of Magna Mater, Isis as well as Sol Invictus & etc etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.25.109.197 ( talk) 08:17, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
"Hypsistarians, i.e. worshippers of the Hypsistos (Greek: Ὕψιστος, the "Most High" God)" Would these people today, if they were speaking English, call themseves "worshippers of the Hypsistos" or "worshippers of the Most High (God)"? I suspect the latter, and would suggest the sentence be changed accordingly. -- Richardson mcphillips ( talk) 18:16, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
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For discussions and references to further literature see: A. D. Nock, Essays on religion and the ancient world, Oxford 1972, 416-430; M. Hengel, Judaism and Hellenism, London 1974, 1.295ff.; G. Bertram in G. Kittel (ed.), Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, Grand Rapids 1964-76, 8.618-619. 68.40.135.98 ( talk) 06:49, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
This article is generally a crude rehash of the Catholic Encyclopedia Article. I was able to detect this before even having read the Catholic Encyclopedia article (the various citations). This needs to be cleaned up quite a bit. -- Ambrosiaster ( talk) 06:46, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
There are several areas which require some references, and some areas which sound like original research. 72.66.50.207 ( talk) 02:13, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
We're all Hypsistarians, as every painting is a canvass. I'm with Goethe, except...what can yo do with a blank canvass? Paint on it, I guess. Geometrical designs only? Cherubim? Anyhow, it's an interesting article and it certainly deserves to be well researched. Somebody get on and do it, please! McZeus ( talk) 21:59, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Stmt is rather preposterous and really needs citation:
It seems like a reasonable leap of mind, unless one is editing a desert dry net encyclopedia, and unless one sits with the competing theory that the main converting group to christianity were the hellenized jews and their contacts. The statement is wild speculation, and undue synthesis given the background material. I dislike it. Rursus dixit. ( mbork3!) 08:30, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
Until the publication of Pagan Monotheism in late antiquity and similar books, it was assumed that Pagan Monotheism was an oxymoron. A great deal of work has confirmed the identity of Hypsistarians as part of a general move in antiquity towards monotheism. Theres no requirement to assert the identity of Hypsistarians as Jewish sympathisers also known as Theophobes (God-fearers). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.221.10.38 ( talk) 16:17, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
Evidence has been found that now proves the worship of the Hypsistos (Theos/Zeus Hysistos) in Greece predates Christianity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.137.36.230 ( talk) 09:56, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Finds in Dion, Greek Macedonia have confirmed the existence of Hypsistarians prior to the normal appearence in texts around 200bce. This confirms the indigenous origin of Greek monotheism, before the completion of the Septugant. Xenophanes 570bce is regarded as the first western monotheist and the Greek philosophical tradition followed suit. Until the discovery of the sanctuary of Zeus Hypsistos at Dion it was thought Monotheism was the sphere of philosophy only. Claims that Hypsistarian sanctuaries were also used by Hebrews as synagogues has been successfully refuted. A further point made in 'Pagan Monotheism in late antiquity confirms the Hypsistarians were exclusive monotheists and not merely Henotheists. When I get more time I'll get references but the article needs a revision in the light of the new findings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.221.10.38 ( talk) 15:14, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
The term 'Most-High' is only ever applied to Zeus and never to any other Greek God and only in the context of a distinct cult. It is a specific title indicating the monotheistic sect of Hypsistarians and is not a mere superlative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.25.109.197 ( talk) 10:26, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
is there an etymological connection, or is it just an easy back-construction? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.76.179.81 ( talk) 04:33, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
I really wonder if this would be better as a paragraph under another article - Hellenistic monotheism, or something? In ictu oculi ( talk) 22:34, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
An article for Hellenistic Monotheism would be interesting and could also inclide Hermetism, the cults of Magna Mater, Isis as well as Sol Invictus & etc etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.25.109.197 ( talk) 08:17, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
"Hypsistarians, i.e. worshippers of the Hypsistos (Greek: Ὕψιστος, the "Most High" God)" Would these people today, if they were speaking English, call themseves "worshippers of the Hypsistos" or "worshippers of the Most High (God)"? I suspect the latter, and would suggest the sentence be changed accordingly. -- Richardson mcphillips ( talk) 18:16, 13 March 2019 (UTC)