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It is a well known fact that hyphy people are of low intelligence, this should be added to the article
Just in case you guys don't know already,
Rap City Takes Week Long Look at Hip-Hop Hyphy
BET has created a weeklong series to document this movement. Rap Citys Hyphy Week series will air daily at 5:00 pm PDT during the week of May 22, 2006.
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if anyone wants to expand this, you have my permission to use anything from my website at http://hyphie.blogspot.com for ideas and information on the creation and definition of hyphy music. check the older posts, thats when i really wrote about how hyphy's distinct sound formed out of bay area gangsta rap. if nobody steps up, i'll have a shot at editing this. Justinhoude 04:21, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
haha i like that thizz dance .gif
i think that the artist list should be at the end, since it is a list. I'll move it within a few days unless anyone disagrees. Reggaedelgado 04:54, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Wrong, none of these people are "artists."
one thing, dj shadow is not nor has ever been considered "hyphy". he's a dj. he samples and mixes. this is not hyphy. why is he listed on this page?
FYI - hyphy combines hype and hyper
also it's an Oakland export - Bay Area is too broad
also an omission that it's intertwined with the car show movement in Oakland is an understandable oversight
these guys should be added: Beeda Weeda EvaGreen they go dumb every day —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thistlethumper ( talk • contribs) 04:25, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't Mac Mall be added to the artists list? He came out with Mac Dre, and has put out an an album with him (Da US Open), and at least "Thizziana Stoned And The Temple of Shrooms" was definately a hyphy album Makalleli ( talk)
is sactown really in the "Valley?" i always thought the valley was livermore pleasanton area but whatever.
Yes, Sacramento is in the Central Valley. Livermore, Dublin, and Pleasanton are in smaller, seperate valley called the Livermore Valley. It is not part of the Central Valley but is divided from it by the range of low mountains/hills that Altamont Pass cuts through. Pick up a map sometime, genius.
yes genius, maybe you should learn how to sign your comments, anyways. sacramento isnt really part of the bay area and livermore pleasanton dublin are part of tri valley, which is what we real bay area people call the valley. this is how you sign your comment genius 128.54.160.176 23:33, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
add andre nickatina yadidamean
sactown is not in the bay at all. it is in the valley which may as well be socal. dont even try to act like anyone in sac is hyphy, it has no sideshows or hyphyness about it at all
Mac Dre established thizz ent in sactown according to mac-dre.info. maybe sactown doesnt go dumb now but it did and it has a significant part in hyphy history. ive seen videos of some big ass sideshows in sactown -- Eurobeatz021 ( talk) 21:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Any indication of what needed clean-up? -- Joseph Lorenzo Hall 17:34, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Baby Ray----" Ain't Nothin' Like The Town"
How can we forget Baby Ray's Oakland Classic, "Ain't Nothin' Like The Town" the song that back Bay Area Rap back to the forefront!
www.myspace.com/babyray75
how the hell is he a "hyphy" artist, hes from kansas! i'm removing him. 00:28, 13 March 2006 by 128.54.160.176 Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages. Typing four tildes after your comment ( ~~~~ ) will insert a signature showing your username and a date/time stamp, which makes it clear who said what, and when. Thank you.
Tech N9ne is from Missouri. KC MO.
were all agreed then. officially, and basically common sense, you can never ever call yourself a hyphy artist, if you were born in florida. or in this case, KC, MO. but never-the-less!
tech n9ne is great group. show respect eh?
Wrong Joebeone. Mac Dre was way hyphier than E-40. 153.18.17.22 21:26, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Yea, Tech N9ne isn't 'hyphy' per se, but he's down with it.. Mahmud II 00:10, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
man just cause a someone might go dumb in the bay doesnt mean he defines hyphy. maybe tech9 has gone dumb b4 but wat im sayin is lil jon does hella traks with e40 and lil jon is not considered hyphy. -- Eurobeatz021 ( talk) 22:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
WHO the hell put alameda? alameda is so not ghetto. -- User:Darkestknight
doesnt have to be ghteto to be hyphy, and West End of alameda is so hard i bet you couldnt handle it. just to prove it, the artist NUMP is from alameda (this was on MTV my block) and cats like Keak and others roll through alameda all the time. get out darkest knight
Define ghetto. really. Thats pathetic. For gods sake, you cant just call something hyphy just on the base of wether the place is "ghetto" or not. Ive seen preppy 17 year olds, living the hyphy life style. And I didnt even know that was possible. But apperntly it is.
This article sees a lot of anonymous edits with varying quality of contributions. I'm starting to revert stuff that I'm not sure is correct. If I revert something of yours and you feel strongly about it, say so here or on my talk page and we'll try to work it in. I don't want to give off the feeling that I own this page, but I'd like to keep it from rotting. -- Joebeone ( Talk) 00:14, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
The Cities/Locations section has been getting slowly larger and then parred down in waves. I'm going to ask contributors that want to add/subtract from the current list to say why and provide source material. -- Joebeone ( Talk) 00:54, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
for reals hyphy originates in the bay but the movement pretty much envelops norcal, although with varying degrees of intensity depending on the city. i would argue that hyphy is more of a norcal movement with a heavy emphasis on the bay area. hella ppl move out the bay to tracy sactown modesto and all over and they still go dumb. clubs are always playing hyphy slapps no where else has heard of outside norcal. hella functions like hyphy train go down in norcal as well. at the same time i would argue that it would be too difficult and controversial to indicate specific cities --
Eurobeatz021 (
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22:08, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps the 'hyphiest' line of all was neglected - you smell me? E-40 said this phrase every other sentence when he was on 106 & Park. It's the equivalent of 'ya hear me?'
"It went from: yadidimean, ta yadidimsayin, ta yadidimtalkinbout? (I know what u talkin bout!)" - Keak Da Sneak Why'd somebody get rid of yadidisayin?? -- Carlos 23:40, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
I thought it was common knowledge that "Yay" referred to yayo? From E-40s song "Yay Area":
Can anyone else back me up on this? -- Liface 16:30, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I just saw that a new editor has decided to put an "examples of hyphy music" in the section. Do we think that's necessary? I could see it going either way but wanted to spark a little discussion before doing anything. -- Joebeone ( Talk) 01:50, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Ive been listening to some old bay area songs, and 'hyphy' is clearly stated in I Got Five On It, which came out in 1995, and arguably in 2 Hard 4 The Fuckin Radio. At least, it sounds like they say hyphy, which would necessitate some changes on the article. Anyone have any opinions? I'm not going to change the article, I'm just wondering what people's opinions are here (joebeone, carlos, I'm talkin to you) Skhatri2005 15:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
put the lyrics here then. I've got both those songs and have never heard the word hyphy in either of them.
Well If where talking about The Too Hard 4 The Fuckin Radio Version That I Know Its By Mac Dre , A Bay Legend In My Opinion.& He mentions areas from the bay ,& also uses "hyphy slang" And As For The Lyrics For Got Five on It MIGHT I ADD THAT THERE IS NUMEROUS VERSIONS OF THIS SONG DUE TO THE REMIXES one being by people from all over the bay. But as far as i know on many music things I Got Five On It.. is sorted under "hyphy" <-- The Classic Stuff. Probly Do To The Slang & Location Of The Artist.
We all know that keak likes to tell folks that "that's his word." He is also clearly seen claiming credit for originating "Hyphy" in MTV My Block the Bay Area. Does anyone else know of an independent source that gives him credt for this? I find it more likely that the true originator is just some G in East Oakland and not any major rapper. Remember this is Wikipedia, let's try to have this verified. Achoo5000 04:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- update - I changed a sentance in the article, I thought it should reflect that Keak himself is the one who claims that he invented the word. Achoo5000 00:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Are these two terms really hyphy slang? I've heard of all the rest in popular Bay Area songs, maybe I need to listen to more.
maybe fresh is being misunderstood for french ive neve heard frenchin out. xcept refering to making out or something dummy gone is more wordplay taken from goin dumb rather than an independent phrase -- Eurobeatz021 ( talk) 22:14, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I have quite a few things to contribute to this entry, but I would like to discuss before I do (and also because it's my first time here at Wiki, I want to understand how WikiPedia works before I make my first edit. Didn't even know about the four tilde's thing until just two minutes ago). Many hyphy terms have etymological backgrounds, so they don't just appear out of nowhere. And being born, raised and still living in Oakland, and attending Bret Harte Junior High (now Middle School) while Keak Da Sneak was there, I could confidently say I was around to see these slang words form without any written documentation. Besides, it's not like a bunch of ninth grade kids would say, "Hey, let's go write this on the internet!" upon making up new Hyphy words, and adults would just tune out what they hear and put it off as nonsense anyway. There's no point in searching for watered-down news articles, the only way to understand Hyphy is to live it. It's fluid and constantly changing, it's not something you can just do a news report on like it's Oakland's 105th Homicide as of 9/27/06. Here are a few examples of the contributions I have, and I hope they are at least acceptable:
Ridin' the Yellow Bus - This term arose from the yellow school buses. In other cities, many students would ride a yellow school bus to school. In Oakland, however, students would either have someone drop them off at school, or they would take AC Transit (Alameda-County Transit, public bus transportation that serves many cities in the Bay Area, including Oakland). Students would seldomly ever take the yellow bus. And in most public schools (especially all the ones I have attended: Bret Harte, Elmhurst and Frick Junior High Schools, Castlemont, Fremont, Oakland and Oakland Tech High Schools), the yellow bus would pull up to the front of the campus with just a handful of students. All of whom are incapable of standing inside a public bus, and whose parents are too busy or unable to drive them. A crowd of students would even form around the yellow bus just to tease the students ride the yellow bus by calling them dumb, stupid or retarded. And this is what makes the yellow bus synonymous with going dumb, going stupid and going retarded.
On *insert relative here* - On fathers, on mamas, or more recently, on 'citas. These are all contractions of "Put that on my mama," or previously "Swear on my mama," which equates to saying "I'm telling the truth." It's a rewording of "Swear to god and hope to die," where if you're not telling the truth, your relative will die. 'citas also means mother, taken from the Spanish word, "mamacita." Grand-Citas can also be used, to mean grandmother.
Hurt, or Hurt Mode - It means visually ugly, not "lame." Usually directed towards ugly women. This comes from being "so sexy, it hurts." But it's changed to being so ugly, it hurts.
Dumb-*adjective* or stupid-*adjective* - These are used as prefixes and as quantifiers. So if someone is "dumb-ugly," then that person is very ugly. Both words can combined as "dumb-stupid" or "stupid-dumb" to denote that the person is extremely ignorant.
Girbauds - Jeans made by Marithe Francois Girbaud (M+FG). Even though Hyphy people call it by the brand name, they are only referring to the shuttle jeans and shorts made by M+FG. M+FG intends for the straps on the pants to be fastened, but Hyphy people will not, making the jeans look like tights. These are commonly the sagging jeans you will see on anyone going dumb, complete with a 5XL Tall Foot Locker white t-shirt, a white pair of Nike Air Force One shoes, a headrag under a New Era Hat, a grill with vampire fangs and a name engraved in diamonds, a child's backpack of a comicbook superhero, and a pair of wide, bubble-eyed Gucci Aviator sunglasses.
Ghost Town - West Oakland. And like ghost towns depicted in western cowboy movies, West Oakland is also devoid of any major economic activity.
Murder Dubs/Dirty Thirties/800 block/and many other variants - Many urban, inner-city areas in the United States feature a numerical system of naming their streets, such 123rd St. These names are for naming the avenues in East Oakland according to the tens digit (so that Murder Dubs is the area from 20th Ave. to 29th Ave. and Dirty thirties is the area from 30th Ave. to 39th Ave.). What's common among Oakland residents to shout out where you live, basically representing that area. A simple expression like this has led to many incidents of violence, including shootings. Keak Da Sneak goes into further detail of reppin turf, with his song, "Town Buziness." Another way to do all this is to just write the first few digits in your address, like 2900s or 3500s.
Grapes - Also called purple. A very potent type of weed.
Indian Dance - Also known as shaking dreads, thizzle dancing, whatever you wanna call it.
White Gurl - A gram of crack. It should be called a White Gram, but when spoken while on crack, it slurs to sound like White Grr. And since a grr is a girl, there's the origin. The song by E-40 of the same name, expands on this definition, as the entire song is about crack. To differentiate from this, caucasian women are referred to as "Snow Bunnies."
Ripper/Runner/Breezy/Beezy - A prostitute. Ripper refers to a woman sleeping with so many men, that she permanently expands her vagina. Runner refers to the ability to sprint on high heels, and running from customer to customer. Breezy and beezy are variants on the word "bitch," with breezy suggesting that the woman performs oral sex. MunkieBear 05:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
heem/henny - hennessey. bleezy - a blunt. giggin - dancing. cuddy - your homey (from the crest). sav - savage. I learned all that from listening to MD 153.18.17.22 21:23, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I've heard artists from other places use the term breezy. I'm not sure if it can be called bay area slang.
you need to edit thizzle dance fast. first the dance is made to imitate the actions of someone on thizz, like feeling yourself, rubbing your face etc., and second the line from get stupid (referring to going dumb, not the thizzle dance) is "it dont look right if you really aint drunk" meaning it only looks good when you're drunk ok cuzzo yadidi? sav
"Thizz dance" isn't just "A dance usually involving wierd movements similar to drunk person. As said in a MacDre song it does not look good if your drunk." It is also a reference to being on Ecstasy.
Sorry folks, this isn't a place censor words you don't like, please don't censor out words because you don't like them - Chembro84
Should we, like is done with the lists of artists, move most of the slang to a new page? We could keep some core terms here. -- Joebeone ( Talk) 00:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Has anybody ever heard of him? The myspace profile has 20k views and I have never heard of him.
Also, I wouldn't consider Trax a hyphy artist, he's a producer. Nump has had about 1 well-known song (Grapes). And Hoodstarz is good, except that a page doesn't exist for them (and it's out of alphabetical order), making it look out of place. Any thoughts, comments, insight? :P Graphitesmoothie 03:02, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I'm going to remove it for now.
Graphitesmoothie
03:46, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
good call on the semiprotection. finally someone did it. Skhatri2005 22:42, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
taking up room on the floor, etc. there was an article about this specifically on the tracy press i think it was front page.
the new bay area dancing phanomeno turfn is whats is up in the bay and is just like pop locking with a different...truely it is doin the mike jackson with better flavor yaddiddig
turfing is a dance style originating in the bay area together with the hyphy movement. turfing, as well as the turf drop existed way b4 the song by e40. It is very similar to gigging although i never see mac dre gliding all over the place so i would argue turfing has developed from gigging. Gigging and turfing are heavily influenced by pop lockin. theres hella groups that rep the bay that turf such as supasickwidit, turftoones, turf jerkz, turf knocks. hella people that identify with the hyphy movement turf and turf functions go down all over the bay. many songs have specific references to turfing and there are a number of songs specifically about turfing/gigging. ill go into this deeper later --
Eurobeatz021 (
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22:33, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
There is no controversy or drawbacks to this subset of rap, even when the genre itself has one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aussie Evil ( talk • contribs) 15:25, 28 November 2006
That's starting to look like an exhaustive list. Graphitesmoothie 19:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I've just requested (and received) semi-protection status for this page. If you feel that this was rash, please discuss this here. I thought it was warranted as a lot of anon. editors were making trivial and consistent edits that were counter to policy articluated on this talk page (slang should be discuseed before expanding, the areas section is stable, etc.). -- Joebeone ( Talk) 00:16, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Yee can mean many other things aside from just hi or hello. When you say "yee yee!" black people will come to you.
First off, you sound amazingly racist. "Black people will come to you"? stfu man. "yee yee!" is more of an expression. for ex. "Man check that dude out! he ridin da yellow bus!" (the other man responds) "Yee Yee!!"
What your looking for is the bird call. While in a crew or clan of friends, you usually make the sound of a bird, or just a bird call, and your "homies" will come twords you.
Ive seen people acutally say some sort of name... or motto. For ex. "Panthers!" directly after that, i saw a large group of people crowd around his car. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.13.120.222 ( talk) 03:57, 2 March 2007 (UTC).
Seems to me the description provided of 'hyphy' dancing resembles that you'd find at the raves of the mid 90's (I have no idea if there are any raves at all in CA now). Additionally, I browsed through the music (KDS, etc) and it seems to bear a superficial resemblance to house. If you consider it's substantially slower and obviously has hiphop themes in it, many of the melodies and syncopation are similar to electronic music (more on the house/club side of things than, say, trance). I wonder if it would be relevant to have a link to the raving culture in the article? I moved out of CA in 99, so I'm not exactly connected to the scene there anymore. ... aa: talk 00:09, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
in fact two hyphy groups; the cataracs and the pack now make alot of music which most would identify as techno. stunnaman's new mixtape, the 2800/hottest under 25 is mostly "techno" with rap and the cataracs already have specifically "techno" functions. Many hyphy funtions are virtually raves run by "gangstas": heavy bass, electronic music, flashing lights, heavy dancing, bright attire, and extacy usage. Most recently, it can be said that the hyphy movement has permeated the electronic music scene in california. -- Eurobeatz021 ( talk) 23:15, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Sacramento should definately be added considering they are much more known to be "hyphy" than Richmond! Who the hell is Richmond. Adding Sacramento! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fr3nZi3 ( talk -- Fr3nZi3 03:58, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I must say this now. There is no such thing as The hyphy-est town.
It's more like the whole general area. If theres actually an argument over whos more hyphy, thats even worse than fighting over a pen. And im not even sure thats possible. Richmond and Sactown are both hyphy towns, although. Its not true that Sac-town is more hyphy, Richmond has many more clans of hyphy kids and adults, Sac-town is acually on the border of hyphy. It lacks the basics of hyphy. Yet both towns are amazing. No hating here. Hyphy on the real.
I would say the only reason Sacramento could be considered hyphy is because Mac Dre lived there and moved his Thizz ent label there 68.164.83.8 ( talk) 00:57, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I've removed 2 names from the major hyphy artists list. DJ Shadow because hes not a hyphy artist and big rich because hes not major and doesn't even have a page. Also I'm not sure that Traxamillion and Droop-E should be on there. They are major producers in the hyphy movement but should producers be on this list? Then why not Sean-T or E-A-ski and CMT? And I don't think San Quinn considers himself to be a hyphy rapper?
Are you sure about DJ Shadow? He did put out a album recently that was basically titled "HELLO I AM HYPHY NOW", and just about every single artist listed on this page guest starred on it. What do you have to do to be hyphy? Get a tattoo on your forehead?
I've heard him in interviews saying he doesn't stick with one style or the next. He felt like working with a bunch of hyphy rappers for that album so he did. That doesn't make him hyphy. 153.18.17.22 20:09, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, since this is protected, can someone please fix this sentence? "Hyphy is distinguished by gritty, pounding rhythms, and in this sense can be associated with the Bay Area as crunk music is in the South." Instead of "in the South" it should say "with the South." As it is now, it appears to be saying that in the South, crunk music is associated with the Bay Area, and I'm sure that is not what was meant.
I'm not sure that "in this sense" is quite right either. Is there some other sense in which hyphy canNOT be associated with the Bay Area? Anyway, in order to say for sure I'd need to know more than I do about the substance. If I understand what the sentence means, I would rewrite it like this: "Hyphy is distinguised by gritty, pounding rhythms, and is associated with the Bay Area as crunk music is with the South." -- The grammar geek at 66.45.137.204 02:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
the word hyphy came from keak da sneaks mom calling him hyphy when he was young because he was so hypher - Bagel7 What ya say, what ya say, what ya say, what??? 06:00, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
It just means to get loose.. Mahmud II 01:39, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
The word hyphy has origins in Atlanta. I first heard this tear when my brother came back from atlanta. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Usability 8 ( talk • contribs) 22:34, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
The SF Chronicle had a Datebook article on hyphy. There was some information there that seems like it might fit in this article. Please take a look at http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/12/DDG73QC5JK1.DTL. Also, this article mentioned the Super Hyphy 17 concert in Petaluma -- includes a list of performers.
I don't believe that Nump can be considered a major hyphy artist after having only one hit single "I Gott Grapes" with E-40 and The Federation. One-hit wonders do not constitute "major artists." - Bagel7 T's 06:07, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
It is hard to decide what is "minor" and "major" when you are talking about hyphy which is based off the independent game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.164.83.8 ( talk) 00:55, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Should they be listed? They've stated themselves to Music Choice On Demand that they are not hyphy. Young L from The Pack stated "You may see people getting hyphy to our songs but the song itself is not hyphy".
==Shouldn't Mac Dre be mentioned somewhere in this article as basically starting the whole hyphy movement? I know Keak came up with the name but it is widely known and said by other bay area artists like Yukmouth that Mac Dre was the first rapper to be talking about yokin, sideshows, stunna shades and the like. While the movement started in the street, as far as music is concerned Mac Dre was the first artist to represent it 68.164.83.8 ( talk) 00:51, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
This is one of the worst articles I've ever read on Wikipedia. It is full of ambiguities, incorrect facts and figure, and worst of all, it doesn't really explain its topic. I'm going to nominate this AFD if someone doesn't fix it.
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my boy tz from the bay keeps claiming to be the OG of the term “hyphy” 2601:646:203:2C0:7453:8FA:140C:29D8 ( talk) 04:31, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Saweetie's "My Type" is one of the most succesful hyphy crossover songs and should be mentioned here. Pkoivula ( talk) 06:21, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
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It is a well known fact that hyphy people are of low intelligence, this should be added to the article
Just in case you guys don't know already,
Rap City Takes Week Long Look at Hip-Hop Hyphy
BET has created a weeklong series to document this movement. Rap Citys Hyphy Week series will air daily at 5:00 pm PDT during the week of May 22, 2006.
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if anyone wants to expand this, you have my permission to use anything from my website at http://hyphie.blogspot.com for ideas and information on the creation and definition of hyphy music. check the older posts, thats when i really wrote about how hyphy's distinct sound formed out of bay area gangsta rap. if nobody steps up, i'll have a shot at editing this. Justinhoude 04:21, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
haha i like that thizz dance .gif
i think that the artist list should be at the end, since it is a list. I'll move it within a few days unless anyone disagrees. Reggaedelgado 04:54, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Wrong, none of these people are "artists."
one thing, dj shadow is not nor has ever been considered "hyphy". he's a dj. he samples and mixes. this is not hyphy. why is he listed on this page?
FYI - hyphy combines hype and hyper
also it's an Oakland export - Bay Area is too broad
also an omission that it's intertwined with the car show movement in Oakland is an understandable oversight
these guys should be added: Beeda Weeda EvaGreen they go dumb every day —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thistlethumper ( talk • contribs) 04:25, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't Mac Mall be added to the artists list? He came out with Mac Dre, and has put out an an album with him (Da US Open), and at least "Thizziana Stoned And The Temple of Shrooms" was definately a hyphy album Makalleli ( talk)
is sactown really in the "Valley?" i always thought the valley was livermore pleasanton area but whatever.
Yes, Sacramento is in the Central Valley. Livermore, Dublin, and Pleasanton are in smaller, seperate valley called the Livermore Valley. It is not part of the Central Valley but is divided from it by the range of low mountains/hills that Altamont Pass cuts through. Pick up a map sometime, genius.
yes genius, maybe you should learn how to sign your comments, anyways. sacramento isnt really part of the bay area and livermore pleasanton dublin are part of tri valley, which is what we real bay area people call the valley. this is how you sign your comment genius 128.54.160.176 23:33, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
add andre nickatina yadidamean
sactown is not in the bay at all. it is in the valley which may as well be socal. dont even try to act like anyone in sac is hyphy, it has no sideshows or hyphyness about it at all
Mac Dre established thizz ent in sactown according to mac-dre.info. maybe sactown doesnt go dumb now but it did and it has a significant part in hyphy history. ive seen videos of some big ass sideshows in sactown -- Eurobeatz021 ( talk) 21:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Any indication of what needed clean-up? -- Joseph Lorenzo Hall 17:34, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Baby Ray----" Ain't Nothin' Like The Town"
How can we forget Baby Ray's Oakland Classic, "Ain't Nothin' Like The Town" the song that back Bay Area Rap back to the forefront!
www.myspace.com/babyray75
how the hell is he a "hyphy" artist, hes from kansas! i'm removing him. 00:28, 13 March 2006 by 128.54.160.176 Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages. Typing four tildes after your comment ( ~~~~ ) will insert a signature showing your username and a date/time stamp, which makes it clear who said what, and when. Thank you.
Tech N9ne is from Missouri. KC MO.
were all agreed then. officially, and basically common sense, you can never ever call yourself a hyphy artist, if you were born in florida. or in this case, KC, MO. but never-the-less!
tech n9ne is great group. show respect eh?
Wrong Joebeone. Mac Dre was way hyphier than E-40. 153.18.17.22 21:26, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Yea, Tech N9ne isn't 'hyphy' per se, but he's down with it.. Mahmud II 00:10, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
man just cause a someone might go dumb in the bay doesnt mean he defines hyphy. maybe tech9 has gone dumb b4 but wat im sayin is lil jon does hella traks with e40 and lil jon is not considered hyphy. -- Eurobeatz021 ( talk) 22:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
WHO the hell put alameda? alameda is so not ghetto. -- User:Darkestknight
doesnt have to be ghteto to be hyphy, and West End of alameda is so hard i bet you couldnt handle it. just to prove it, the artist NUMP is from alameda (this was on MTV my block) and cats like Keak and others roll through alameda all the time. get out darkest knight
Define ghetto. really. Thats pathetic. For gods sake, you cant just call something hyphy just on the base of wether the place is "ghetto" or not. Ive seen preppy 17 year olds, living the hyphy life style. And I didnt even know that was possible. But apperntly it is.
This article sees a lot of anonymous edits with varying quality of contributions. I'm starting to revert stuff that I'm not sure is correct. If I revert something of yours and you feel strongly about it, say so here or on my talk page and we'll try to work it in. I don't want to give off the feeling that I own this page, but I'd like to keep it from rotting. -- Joebeone ( Talk) 00:14, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
The Cities/Locations section has been getting slowly larger and then parred down in waves. I'm going to ask contributors that want to add/subtract from the current list to say why and provide source material. -- Joebeone ( Talk) 00:54, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
for reals hyphy originates in the bay but the movement pretty much envelops norcal, although with varying degrees of intensity depending on the city. i would argue that hyphy is more of a norcal movement with a heavy emphasis on the bay area. hella ppl move out the bay to tracy sactown modesto and all over and they still go dumb. clubs are always playing hyphy slapps no where else has heard of outside norcal. hella functions like hyphy train go down in norcal as well. at the same time i would argue that it would be too difficult and controversial to indicate specific cities --
Eurobeatz021 (
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22:08, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps the 'hyphiest' line of all was neglected - you smell me? E-40 said this phrase every other sentence when he was on 106 & Park. It's the equivalent of 'ya hear me?'
"It went from: yadidimean, ta yadidimsayin, ta yadidimtalkinbout? (I know what u talkin bout!)" - Keak Da Sneak Why'd somebody get rid of yadidisayin?? -- Carlos 23:40, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
I thought it was common knowledge that "Yay" referred to yayo? From E-40s song "Yay Area":
Can anyone else back me up on this? -- Liface 16:30, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I just saw that a new editor has decided to put an "examples of hyphy music" in the section. Do we think that's necessary? I could see it going either way but wanted to spark a little discussion before doing anything. -- Joebeone ( Talk) 01:50, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Ive been listening to some old bay area songs, and 'hyphy' is clearly stated in I Got Five On It, which came out in 1995, and arguably in 2 Hard 4 The Fuckin Radio. At least, it sounds like they say hyphy, which would necessitate some changes on the article. Anyone have any opinions? I'm not going to change the article, I'm just wondering what people's opinions are here (joebeone, carlos, I'm talkin to you) Skhatri2005 15:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
put the lyrics here then. I've got both those songs and have never heard the word hyphy in either of them.
Well If where talking about The Too Hard 4 The Fuckin Radio Version That I Know Its By Mac Dre , A Bay Legend In My Opinion.& He mentions areas from the bay ,& also uses "hyphy slang" And As For The Lyrics For Got Five on It MIGHT I ADD THAT THERE IS NUMEROUS VERSIONS OF THIS SONG DUE TO THE REMIXES one being by people from all over the bay. But as far as i know on many music things I Got Five On It.. is sorted under "hyphy" <-- The Classic Stuff. Probly Do To The Slang & Location Of The Artist.
We all know that keak likes to tell folks that "that's his word." He is also clearly seen claiming credit for originating "Hyphy" in MTV My Block the Bay Area. Does anyone else know of an independent source that gives him credt for this? I find it more likely that the true originator is just some G in East Oakland and not any major rapper. Remember this is Wikipedia, let's try to have this verified. Achoo5000 04:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- update - I changed a sentance in the article, I thought it should reflect that Keak himself is the one who claims that he invented the word. Achoo5000 00:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Are these two terms really hyphy slang? I've heard of all the rest in popular Bay Area songs, maybe I need to listen to more.
maybe fresh is being misunderstood for french ive neve heard frenchin out. xcept refering to making out or something dummy gone is more wordplay taken from goin dumb rather than an independent phrase -- Eurobeatz021 ( talk) 22:14, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I have quite a few things to contribute to this entry, but I would like to discuss before I do (and also because it's my first time here at Wiki, I want to understand how WikiPedia works before I make my first edit. Didn't even know about the four tilde's thing until just two minutes ago). Many hyphy terms have etymological backgrounds, so they don't just appear out of nowhere. And being born, raised and still living in Oakland, and attending Bret Harte Junior High (now Middle School) while Keak Da Sneak was there, I could confidently say I was around to see these slang words form without any written documentation. Besides, it's not like a bunch of ninth grade kids would say, "Hey, let's go write this on the internet!" upon making up new Hyphy words, and adults would just tune out what they hear and put it off as nonsense anyway. There's no point in searching for watered-down news articles, the only way to understand Hyphy is to live it. It's fluid and constantly changing, it's not something you can just do a news report on like it's Oakland's 105th Homicide as of 9/27/06. Here are a few examples of the contributions I have, and I hope they are at least acceptable:
Ridin' the Yellow Bus - This term arose from the yellow school buses. In other cities, many students would ride a yellow school bus to school. In Oakland, however, students would either have someone drop them off at school, or they would take AC Transit (Alameda-County Transit, public bus transportation that serves many cities in the Bay Area, including Oakland). Students would seldomly ever take the yellow bus. And in most public schools (especially all the ones I have attended: Bret Harte, Elmhurst and Frick Junior High Schools, Castlemont, Fremont, Oakland and Oakland Tech High Schools), the yellow bus would pull up to the front of the campus with just a handful of students. All of whom are incapable of standing inside a public bus, and whose parents are too busy or unable to drive them. A crowd of students would even form around the yellow bus just to tease the students ride the yellow bus by calling them dumb, stupid or retarded. And this is what makes the yellow bus synonymous with going dumb, going stupid and going retarded.
On *insert relative here* - On fathers, on mamas, or more recently, on 'citas. These are all contractions of "Put that on my mama," or previously "Swear on my mama," which equates to saying "I'm telling the truth." It's a rewording of "Swear to god and hope to die," where if you're not telling the truth, your relative will die. 'citas also means mother, taken from the Spanish word, "mamacita." Grand-Citas can also be used, to mean grandmother.
Hurt, or Hurt Mode - It means visually ugly, not "lame." Usually directed towards ugly women. This comes from being "so sexy, it hurts." But it's changed to being so ugly, it hurts.
Dumb-*adjective* or stupid-*adjective* - These are used as prefixes and as quantifiers. So if someone is "dumb-ugly," then that person is very ugly. Both words can combined as "dumb-stupid" or "stupid-dumb" to denote that the person is extremely ignorant.
Girbauds - Jeans made by Marithe Francois Girbaud (M+FG). Even though Hyphy people call it by the brand name, they are only referring to the shuttle jeans and shorts made by M+FG. M+FG intends for the straps on the pants to be fastened, but Hyphy people will not, making the jeans look like tights. These are commonly the sagging jeans you will see on anyone going dumb, complete with a 5XL Tall Foot Locker white t-shirt, a white pair of Nike Air Force One shoes, a headrag under a New Era Hat, a grill with vampire fangs and a name engraved in diamonds, a child's backpack of a comicbook superhero, and a pair of wide, bubble-eyed Gucci Aviator sunglasses.
Ghost Town - West Oakland. And like ghost towns depicted in western cowboy movies, West Oakland is also devoid of any major economic activity.
Murder Dubs/Dirty Thirties/800 block/and many other variants - Many urban, inner-city areas in the United States feature a numerical system of naming their streets, such 123rd St. These names are for naming the avenues in East Oakland according to the tens digit (so that Murder Dubs is the area from 20th Ave. to 29th Ave. and Dirty thirties is the area from 30th Ave. to 39th Ave.). What's common among Oakland residents to shout out where you live, basically representing that area. A simple expression like this has led to many incidents of violence, including shootings. Keak Da Sneak goes into further detail of reppin turf, with his song, "Town Buziness." Another way to do all this is to just write the first few digits in your address, like 2900s or 3500s.
Grapes - Also called purple. A very potent type of weed.
Indian Dance - Also known as shaking dreads, thizzle dancing, whatever you wanna call it.
White Gurl - A gram of crack. It should be called a White Gram, but when spoken while on crack, it slurs to sound like White Grr. And since a grr is a girl, there's the origin. The song by E-40 of the same name, expands on this definition, as the entire song is about crack. To differentiate from this, caucasian women are referred to as "Snow Bunnies."
Ripper/Runner/Breezy/Beezy - A prostitute. Ripper refers to a woman sleeping with so many men, that she permanently expands her vagina. Runner refers to the ability to sprint on high heels, and running from customer to customer. Breezy and beezy are variants on the word "bitch," with breezy suggesting that the woman performs oral sex. MunkieBear 05:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
heem/henny - hennessey. bleezy - a blunt. giggin - dancing. cuddy - your homey (from the crest). sav - savage. I learned all that from listening to MD 153.18.17.22 21:23, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I've heard artists from other places use the term breezy. I'm not sure if it can be called bay area slang.
you need to edit thizzle dance fast. first the dance is made to imitate the actions of someone on thizz, like feeling yourself, rubbing your face etc., and second the line from get stupid (referring to going dumb, not the thizzle dance) is "it dont look right if you really aint drunk" meaning it only looks good when you're drunk ok cuzzo yadidi? sav
"Thizz dance" isn't just "A dance usually involving wierd movements similar to drunk person. As said in a MacDre song it does not look good if your drunk." It is also a reference to being on Ecstasy.
Sorry folks, this isn't a place censor words you don't like, please don't censor out words because you don't like them - Chembro84
Should we, like is done with the lists of artists, move most of the slang to a new page? We could keep some core terms here. -- Joebeone ( Talk) 00:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Has anybody ever heard of him? The myspace profile has 20k views and I have never heard of him.
Also, I wouldn't consider Trax a hyphy artist, he's a producer. Nump has had about 1 well-known song (Grapes). And Hoodstarz is good, except that a page doesn't exist for them (and it's out of alphabetical order), making it look out of place. Any thoughts, comments, insight? :P Graphitesmoothie 03:02, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I'm going to remove it for now.
Graphitesmoothie
03:46, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
good call on the semiprotection. finally someone did it. Skhatri2005 22:42, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
taking up room on the floor, etc. there was an article about this specifically on the tracy press i think it was front page.
the new bay area dancing phanomeno turfn is whats is up in the bay and is just like pop locking with a different...truely it is doin the mike jackson with better flavor yaddiddig
turfing is a dance style originating in the bay area together with the hyphy movement. turfing, as well as the turf drop existed way b4 the song by e40. It is very similar to gigging although i never see mac dre gliding all over the place so i would argue turfing has developed from gigging. Gigging and turfing are heavily influenced by pop lockin. theres hella groups that rep the bay that turf such as supasickwidit, turftoones, turf jerkz, turf knocks. hella people that identify with the hyphy movement turf and turf functions go down all over the bay. many songs have specific references to turfing and there are a number of songs specifically about turfing/gigging. ill go into this deeper later --
Eurobeatz021 (
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22:33, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
There is no controversy or drawbacks to this subset of rap, even when the genre itself has one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aussie Evil ( talk • contribs) 15:25, 28 November 2006
That's starting to look like an exhaustive list. Graphitesmoothie 19:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I've just requested (and received) semi-protection status for this page. If you feel that this was rash, please discuss this here. I thought it was warranted as a lot of anon. editors were making trivial and consistent edits that were counter to policy articluated on this talk page (slang should be discuseed before expanding, the areas section is stable, etc.). -- Joebeone ( Talk) 00:16, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Yee can mean many other things aside from just hi or hello. When you say "yee yee!" black people will come to you.
First off, you sound amazingly racist. "Black people will come to you"? stfu man. "yee yee!" is more of an expression. for ex. "Man check that dude out! he ridin da yellow bus!" (the other man responds) "Yee Yee!!"
What your looking for is the bird call. While in a crew or clan of friends, you usually make the sound of a bird, or just a bird call, and your "homies" will come twords you.
Ive seen people acutally say some sort of name... or motto. For ex. "Panthers!" directly after that, i saw a large group of people crowd around his car. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.13.120.222 ( talk) 03:57, 2 March 2007 (UTC).
Seems to me the description provided of 'hyphy' dancing resembles that you'd find at the raves of the mid 90's (I have no idea if there are any raves at all in CA now). Additionally, I browsed through the music (KDS, etc) and it seems to bear a superficial resemblance to house. If you consider it's substantially slower and obviously has hiphop themes in it, many of the melodies and syncopation are similar to electronic music (more on the house/club side of things than, say, trance). I wonder if it would be relevant to have a link to the raving culture in the article? I moved out of CA in 99, so I'm not exactly connected to the scene there anymore. ... aa: talk 00:09, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
in fact two hyphy groups; the cataracs and the pack now make alot of music which most would identify as techno. stunnaman's new mixtape, the 2800/hottest under 25 is mostly "techno" with rap and the cataracs already have specifically "techno" functions. Many hyphy funtions are virtually raves run by "gangstas": heavy bass, electronic music, flashing lights, heavy dancing, bright attire, and extacy usage. Most recently, it can be said that the hyphy movement has permeated the electronic music scene in california. -- Eurobeatz021 ( talk) 23:15, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Sacramento should definately be added considering they are much more known to be "hyphy" than Richmond! Who the hell is Richmond. Adding Sacramento! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fr3nZi3 ( talk -- Fr3nZi3 03:58, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I must say this now. There is no such thing as The hyphy-est town.
It's more like the whole general area. If theres actually an argument over whos more hyphy, thats even worse than fighting over a pen. And im not even sure thats possible. Richmond and Sactown are both hyphy towns, although. Its not true that Sac-town is more hyphy, Richmond has many more clans of hyphy kids and adults, Sac-town is acually on the border of hyphy. It lacks the basics of hyphy. Yet both towns are amazing. No hating here. Hyphy on the real.
I would say the only reason Sacramento could be considered hyphy is because Mac Dre lived there and moved his Thizz ent label there 68.164.83.8 ( talk) 00:57, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I've removed 2 names from the major hyphy artists list. DJ Shadow because hes not a hyphy artist and big rich because hes not major and doesn't even have a page. Also I'm not sure that Traxamillion and Droop-E should be on there. They are major producers in the hyphy movement but should producers be on this list? Then why not Sean-T or E-A-ski and CMT? And I don't think San Quinn considers himself to be a hyphy rapper?
Are you sure about DJ Shadow? He did put out a album recently that was basically titled "HELLO I AM HYPHY NOW", and just about every single artist listed on this page guest starred on it. What do you have to do to be hyphy? Get a tattoo on your forehead?
I've heard him in interviews saying he doesn't stick with one style or the next. He felt like working with a bunch of hyphy rappers for that album so he did. That doesn't make him hyphy. 153.18.17.22 20:09, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, since this is protected, can someone please fix this sentence? "Hyphy is distinguished by gritty, pounding rhythms, and in this sense can be associated with the Bay Area as crunk music is in the South." Instead of "in the South" it should say "with the South." As it is now, it appears to be saying that in the South, crunk music is associated with the Bay Area, and I'm sure that is not what was meant.
I'm not sure that "in this sense" is quite right either. Is there some other sense in which hyphy canNOT be associated with the Bay Area? Anyway, in order to say for sure I'd need to know more than I do about the substance. If I understand what the sentence means, I would rewrite it like this: "Hyphy is distinguised by gritty, pounding rhythms, and is associated with the Bay Area as crunk music is with the South." -- The grammar geek at 66.45.137.204 02:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
the word hyphy came from keak da sneaks mom calling him hyphy when he was young because he was so hypher - Bagel7 What ya say, what ya say, what ya say, what??? 06:00, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
It just means to get loose.. Mahmud II 01:39, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
The word hyphy has origins in Atlanta. I first heard this tear when my brother came back from atlanta. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Usability 8 ( talk • contribs) 22:34, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
The SF Chronicle had a Datebook article on hyphy. There was some information there that seems like it might fit in this article. Please take a look at http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/12/DDG73QC5JK1.DTL. Also, this article mentioned the Super Hyphy 17 concert in Petaluma -- includes a list of performers.
I don't believe that Nump can be considered a major hyphy artist after having only one hit single "I Gott Grapes" with E-40 and The Federation. One-hit wonders do not constitute "major artists." - Bagel7 T's 06:07, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
It is hard to decide what is "minor" and "major" when you are talking about hyphy which is based off the independent game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.164.83.8 ( talk) 00:55, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Should they be listed? They've stated themselves to Music Choice On Demand that they are not hyphy. Young L from The Pack stated "You may see people getting hyphy to our songs but the song itself is not hyphy".
==Shouldn't Mac Dre be mentioned somewhere in this article as basically starting the whole hyphy movement? I know Keak came up with the name but it is widely known and said by other bay area artists like Yukmouth that Mac Dre was the first rapper to be talking about yokin, sideshows, stunna shades and the like. While the movement started in the street, as far as music is concerned Mac Dre was the first artist to represent it 68.164.83.8 ( talk) 00:51, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
This is one of the worst articles I've ever read on Wikipedia. It is full of ambiguities, incorrect facts and figure, and worst of all, it doesn't really explain its topic. I'm going to nominate this AFD if someone doesn't fix it.
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my boy tz from the bay keeps claiming to be the OG of the term “hyphy” 2601:646:203:2C0:7453:8FA:140C:29D8 ( talk) 04:31, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Saweetie's "My Type" is one of the most succesful hyphy crossover songs and should be mentioned here. Pkoivula ( talk) 06:21, 12 February 2024 (UTC)