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Until there are reports of significant damage or flooding within Central America (or elsewhere), it is best to keep the importance of this article low, as it is now set. Minor hurricanes in November are not uncommon enough to assign more importance to the article. Thegreatdr ( talk) 17:34, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
The news reports appear to be confused. Ida was hundreds of miles from El Salvador. Severe weather indirectly influenced by Ida? Sure. A tragedy? Absolutely. But deaths CAUSED BY Ida?? 216.80.110.88 ( talk) 02:22, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
And now the CNN International story has been edited: "In El Salvador, at least 91 people died in flooding and mudslides, according to the government, but a low-pressure system out of the Pacific -- not Hurricane Ida -- triggered the disaster, forecaster Robby Berg of the National Hurricane Center said Sunday." I have modified the article text accordingly. 216.80.110.88 ( talk) 05:57, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Just confirming NHC forecasts, the deaths in El Salvador are completely unrelated to Hurricane Ida, as confirmed by satellite images that I've found. The images show another system forming over El Salvador on October 8 while Ida was well away from El Salvador: [1], [2], [3], [4]. 201.89.68.55 ( talk) 00:54, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't know if it count's as a big record, but Ida reached hurricane strength in November only 1 year after Paloma did in 2008. That marks the first time that a hurricane formed in November for 2 straight years since 1985-86. I don't know if it's very important, but if anyone else thinks it's notable, could it be put in? 76.29.112.198 ( talk) 02:18, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Oh, wait, it is the first time that happened since 1998-99, when Nicole and Lenny formed, respectively. I don't think it's that notable now. 76.29.112.198 ( talk) 00:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Rapid Fire just took a new shot of the system however I do not have the software to flatten it out like what was done with Hurricane Freds image. - Marcusmax( speak) 18:27, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
The storm history section is a bit choppy. We might want to look over it an revamp it with some more effective sentences. ( Tropical Cyclone K ( talk) 11:58, 10 November 2009 (UTC))
They will be done by Monday. I'm going to have ignore the center jump for the graphics, but the graphics will show the track of both lows. Looks like original Ida's surface low disappeared after 06z on the 12th, which is likely the time (if not sooner) NHC will want to consider the system dissipated. Thegreatdr ( talk) 16:38, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Ida's remnant extratropical low is still located near the North-Atlantic ridge, southwest of the Azores. Should we include some of this information or should we wait until the official NHC reports are issued? Thanks. ~ A H 1( T C U) 01:19, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Since the storm did kill 6 people, affected a wide area, and caused alot of damage should someone go ahead and make an article about it? - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 18:47, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Agreed that a separate article would be best for it, since the TCR found that it was a separate system that was responsible (that was a combination of Ida and the front). (If Ida was truly responsbible, it would be rather ironic that the last time those areas were hit so hard by a storm was by the name Ida replaced). CrazyC83 ( talk) 17:58, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry I never started the article, college crept up on me I have only time to do edits not whole articles. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 21:24, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
I know this suggestion is coming a bit late, but how about calling the article "Nor'Ida" since that's what I call it if I talk about the storm with friends. It was the Nor'Ida, not the "November 2009 mid-atlantic nor'easter." I've already created a "Nor'Ida" page as a redirect to the current article, but I feel like I might as well at least ask the question - should it be the other way around? Maadio ( talk) 15:45, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
It is said in the texte that the remnant low along the East Coast was a Nor'easter. This is not true as the low barely moved and the wind were from the East. A Nor'easter develop in a strong southwest circulation along the East Coast an move from around Cape Hatteras toward the Canadian Martimes and then off toward the Northeast. This sentence reference should be deleted.
Pierre cb ( talk) 03:05, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
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Until there are reports of significant damage or flooding within Central America (or elsewhere), it is best to keep the importance of this article low, as it is now set. Minor hurricanes in November are not uncommon enough to assign more importance to the article. Thegreatdr ( talk) 17:34, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
The news reports appear to be confused. Ida was hundreds of miles from El Salvador. Severe weather indirectly influenced by Ida? Sure. A tragedy? Absolutely. But deaths CAUSED BY Ida?? 216.80.110.88 ( talk) 02:22, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
And now the CNN International story has been edited: "In El Salvador, at least 91 people died in flooding and mudslides, according to the government, but a low-pressure system out of the Pacific -- not Hurricane Ida -- triggered the disaster, forecaster Robby Berg of the National Hurricane Center said Sunday." I have modified the article text accordingly. 216.80.110.88 ( talk) 05:57, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Just confirming NHC forecasts, the deaths in El Salvador are completely unrelated to Hurricane Ida, as confirmed by satellite images that I've found. The images show another system forming over El Salvador on October 8 while Ida was well away from El Salvador: [1], [2], [3], [4]. 201.89.68.55 ( talk) 00:54, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't know if it count's as a big record, but Ida reached hurricane strength in November only 1 year after Paloma did in 2008. That marks the first time that a hurricane formed in November for 2 straight years since 1985-86. I don't know if it's very important, but if anyone else thinks it's notable, could it be put in? 76.29.112.198 ( talk) 02:18, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Oh, wait, it is the first time that happened since 1998-99, when Nicole and Lenny formed, respectively. I don't think it's that notable now. 76.29.112.198 ( talk) 00:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Rapid Fire just took a new shot of the system however I do not have the software to flatten it out like what was done with Hurricane Freds image. - Marcusmax( speak) 18:27, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
The storm history section is a bit choppy. We might want to look over it an revamp it with some more effective sentences. ( Tropical Cyclone K ( talk) 11:58, 10 November 2009 (UTC))
They will be done by Monday. I'm going to have ignore the center jump for the graphics, but the graphics will show the track of both lows. Looks like original Ida's surface low disappeared after 06z on the 12th, which is likely the time (if not sooner) NHC will want to consider the system dissipated. Thegreatdr ( talk) 16:38, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Ida's remnant extratropical low is still located near the North-Atlantic ridge, southwest of the Azores. Should we include some of this information or should we wait until the official NHC reports are issued? Thanks. ~ A H 1( T C U) 01:19, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Since the storm did kill 6 people, affected a wide area, and caused alot of damage should someone go ahead and make an article about it? - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 18:47, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Agreed that a separate article would be best for it, since the TCR found that it was a separate system that was responsible (that was a combination of Ida and the front). (If Ida was truly responsbible, it would be rather ironic that the last time those areas were hit so hard by a storm was by the name Ida replaced). CrazyC83 ( talk) 17:58, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry I never started the article, college crept up on me I have only time to do edits not whole articles. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 21:24, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
I know this suggestion is coming a bit late, but how about calling the article "Nor'Ida" since that's what I call it if I talk about the storm with friends. It was the Nor'Ida, not the "November 2009 mid-atlantic nor'easter." I've already created a "Nor'Ida" page as a redirect to the current article, but I feel like I might as well at least ask the question - should it be the other way around? Maadio ( talk) 15:45, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
It is said in the texte that the remnant low along the East Coast was a Nor'easter. This is not true as the low barely moved and the wind were from the East. A Nor'easter develop in a strong southwest circulation along the East Coast an move from around Cape Hatteras toward the Canadian Martimes and then off toward the Northeast. This sentence reference should be deleted.
Pierre cb ( talk) 03:05, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
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There is (was) another merge request to merge November 2009 nor'easter into this article. See the merge discussion on that article's talk page for more details. By the way, the discussion has died out over a month ago with no clear consensus, so I've closed the discussion in the meantime. LightandDark2000 ( talk) 21:58, 26 November 2017 (UTC)