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Whare did the idea that Huntley Wright was born Frederick Wright come from? It is known that Fred Wright Jnr was is brother. Why is there a link to Fred Wright Jnr's D'Oyly page on this page when this is NOT Huntley Wright? Surely repeatedly "copying" other sites incorrect details DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!! Ozzi0206 ( talk) 08:12, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello. What page number in the Tatler is that? Does the Tatler article say the names of the children right in the article? What other information is in that article? The 1871 census and Ada Reeve info are very helpful! Thanks! Any other references you can find will be helpful, and I would enjoy helping you to expand Wright's article if you have more information that you wish to share. Please see WP:RS for information on what kinds of sources we can accept. All the best! -- Ssilvers ( talk) 23:57, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks so much for fixing that up. You did a wonderful job! I don't have full details for the Tatler reference, just that. But it came from my uncle, so I will follow it up. You noted Fred Jnr's incorrect birth date. It should be 8th March 1865, 49 Castle Street, Dover. Father: Frederick Wright, Mother: Jessie Wright formerly Francis, Father Occupation: Theatrical Performer and Comedian. (Birth Certificate GRO). Anyway, back to Huntley.
"...until the world war when he enlisted in September 1914. He became a second lieutenant in December of that year, a lieutenant in November, 1916, and a captain in 1917. He was demobolized in 1919."... "He had been engaged mainly in radio work during the period from 1936-1939." New York Times (Obituary) July 12, 1939. I have a lot more to sift through. Will extract more over the next few days. You can decide what is relevant to the page. I'm just glad that the name correction was made. Pretty important piece of information. As for the birth date of Huntley...I will be ordering a copy of that certificate soon. I will advise you of details. Some other references you may be interested in: June 1906 The Geisha at Daley’s Theatre
“Huntley Wright, succeeded by his brother Fred Wright Jnr, as Wun Hi”
http://footlightnotes.tripod.com/ Footlight Notes No.298 1910 BERTIE WRIGHT sheet music “I’m waiting here for Minnie”
http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/2930141 August 30, 1910 FRED WRIGHT JNR review of Our Miss Gibbs in New York Times
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9C04E7D61E39E333A25753C3A96E9C946196D6CF February 14, 1911 FRED WRIGHT JNR Fred Wright in Vaudeville, New York Times
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9B02E1DC1438E033A25757C1A9649C946096D6CF Not sure what you will be interested in using. Thanks again.
122.104.9.144 (
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11:00, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
It has been added that Christine Monica Taylor is Mary Fraser. Christine was Huntley's first wife. He petitioned for divorce in Jan 1911 (London Times Jan 12 1911). He married Mary M Smith in (Sep)1911 (GRO Index, Walter T C Wright - which is Walter Thomas C for birth name in GRO index). Could this be Mary Fraser? They had a son Mackinder Huntley Wright; also used the name Huntley Mackinder Wright (see probate notice
http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/issues/35288/pages/5623/page.pdf AND son's listing on Roll of Honour
http://www.roll-of-honour.org.uk/Cemeteries/Taukkyan_War_Cemetery/W/html/wr.htm).
I see that Huntley performed with Lionel Mackinder, possibly his son's name was a tribute (?)
Betty Jessie Wright (Betty Huntley-Wright) was born (Mar)1912 (GRO Index); also the daughter of Mary Smith. Another daughter, Josephine M Huntley Wright was born (Sep) 1918 (GRO Index); she appeared in 'some' movies/TV (see IMDb).
Ozzi0206 (
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12:53, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
The article is looking good! I can't believe I hesitated so long in getting involved. RE: Betty's birth... Is the GRO index date according to when the birth was registered? Maybe she had been born earlier but not registered until a later date? Possible? I believe Walter's published birthdate is incorrect. I ordered his birth certificate a couple of days ago, so I will have a confirmed date of birth in a week or two. It is worth noting that the Times divorce petition Jan 12, 1911 states that WALTER had the stage name HUNTLEY. This is probably the most compelling evidence that Huntley's birth name was Walter, not Frederick (IMDb were notified, with evidence, over a year ago and despite a request to update this they still have not).
An article on Betty would be good. I have a couple of Play Pictorial references if they will help. I would like to (one day, when I have compiled everything coherently) start an article on Fred & Jessie and the family. One day.....
Ozzi0206 (
talk)
09:50, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
The article refers to HW in a 1927 revival of the R of P. I can find no trace in the Times archive or anywhere else of a staged revival in that year (and the reference link in the article takes you to Page Not Found). The BBC transmitted a complete studio performance in that year, with HW in the cast, and I suspect that is what is meant here. (The Times, 29 Nov 1927, p. 21). HW is listed first of the cast members, and I assume he played Hassan, but cannot definitely confirm that. - Tim riley ( talk) 10:45, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Super work, Tim! I am adding another image. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 13:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I received the birth certificate today. Born Walter Thomas Curtis Wright on 7th August 1868 (registered Jan 1869). Son of Frederick Wright and Jessie Wright formerly Curtis. This contradicts Fred Jnr's birth certificate which states Jessie Wright formerly Francis. Haven't sorted that one out yet, because Bertie's birth certificate states Jessie Emma Frances Wright formerly Curtis. I understend that this isn't really helpful, but at least it can be documented here in the discussion page. If anyone knows or finds anything.... Ozzi0206 ( talk) 08:04, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
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So based on the edit that Ssilvers made in which they removed the infobox from the article [1], I will start a conversation regarding adding one to the article. Not quite sure as to why it was removed in the first place as most other articles have one and a consensus is not required. So to be short and sweet should this article have the infobox added? — Mr Xaero ☎️ 16:15, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
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Whare did the idea that Huntley Wright was born Frederick Wright come from? It is known that Fred Wright Jnr was is brother. Why is there a link to Fred Wright Jnr's D'Oyly page on this page when this is NOT Huntley Wright? Surely repeatedly "copying" other sites incorrect details DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!! Ozzi0206 ( talk) 08:12, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello. What page number in the Tatler is that? Does the Tatler article say the names of the children right in the article? What other information is in that article? The 1871 census and Ada Reeve info are very helpful! Thanks! Any other references you can find will be helpful, and I would enjoy helping you to expand Wright's article if you have more information that you wish to share. Please see WP:RS for information on what kinds of sources we can accept. All the best! -- Ssilvers ( talk) 23:57, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks so much for fixing that up. You did a wonderful job! I don't have full details for the Tatler reference, just that. But it came from my uncle, so I will follow it up. You noted Fred Jnr's incorrect birth date. It should be 8th March 1865, 49 Castle Street, Dover. Father: Frederick Wright, Mother: Jessie Wright formerly Francis, Father Occupation: Theatrical Performer and Comedian. (Birth Certificate GRO). Anyway, back to Huntley.
"...until the world war when he enlisted in September 1914. He became a second lieutenant in December of that year, a lieutenant in November, 1916, and a captain in 1917. He was demobolized in 1919."... "He had been engaged mainly in radio work during the period from 1936-1939." New York Times (Obituary) July 12, 1939. I have a lot more to sift through. Will extract more over the next few days. You can decide what is relevant to the page. I'm just glad that the name correction was made. Pretty important piece of information. As for the birth date of Huntley...I will be ordering a copy of that certificate soon. I will advise you of details. Some other references you may be interested in: June 1906 The Geisha at Daley’s Theatre
“Huntley Wright, succeeded by his brother Fred Wright Jnr, as Wun Hi”
http://footlightnotes.tripod.com/ Footlight Notes No.298 1910 BERTIE WRIGHT sheet music “I’m waiting here for Minnie”
http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/2930141 August 30, 1910 FRED WRIGHT JNR review of Our Miss Gibbs in New York Times
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9C04E7D61E39E333A25753C3A96E9C946196D6CF February 14, 1911 FRED WRIGHT JNR Fred Wright in Vaudeville, New York Times
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9B02E1DC1438E033A25757C1A9649C946096D6CF Not sure what you will be interested in using. Thanks again.
122.104.9.144 (
talk)
11:00, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
It has been added that Christine Monica Taylor is Mary Fraser. Christine was Huntley's first wife. He petitioned for divorce in Jan 1911 (London Times Jan 12 1911). He married Mary M Smith in (Sep)1911 (GRO Index, Walter T C Wright - which is Walter Thomas C for birth name in GRO index). Could this be Mary Fraser? They had a son Mackinder Huntley Wright; also used the name Huntley Mackinder Wright (see probate notice
http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/issues/35288/pages/5623/page.pdf AND son's listing on Roll of Honour
http://www.roll-of-honour.org.uk/Cemeteries/Taukkyan_War_Cemetery/W/html/wr.htm).
I see that Huntley performed with Lionel Mackinder, possibly his son's name was a tribute (?)
Betty Jessie Wright (Betty Huntley-Wright) was born (Mar)1912 (GRO Index); also the daughter of Mary Smith. Another daughter, Josephine M Huntley Wright was born (Sep) 1918 (GRO Index); she appeared in 'some' movies/TV (see IMDb).
Ozzi0206 (
talk)
12:53, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
The article is looking good! I can't believe I hesitated so long in getting involved. RE: Betty's birth... Is the GRO index date according to when the birth was registered? Maybe she had been born earlier but not registered until a later date? Possible? I believe Walter's published birthdate is incorrect. I ordered his birth certificate a couple of days ago, so I will have a confirmed date of birth in a week or two. It is worth noting that the Times divorce petition Jan 12, 1911 states that WALTER had the stage name HUNTLEY. This is probably the most compelling evidence that Huntley's birth name was Walter, not Frederick (IMDb were notified, with evidence, over a year ago and despite a request to update this they still have not).
An article on Betty would be good. I have a couple of Play Pictorial references if they will help. I would like to (one day, when I have compiled everything coherently) start an article on Fred & Jessie and the family. One day.....
Ozzi0206 (
talk)
09:50, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
The article refers to HW in a 1927 revival of the R of P. I can find no trace in the Times archive or anywhere else of a staged revival in that year (and the reference link in the article takes you to Page Not Found). The BBC transmitted a complete studio performance in that year, with HW in the cast, and I suspect that is what is meant here. (The Times, 29 Nov 1927, p. 21). HW is listed first of the cast members, and I assume he played Hassan, but cannot definitely confirm that. - Tim riley ( talk) 10:45, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Super work, Tim! I am adding another image. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 13:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I received the birth certificate today. Born Walter Thomas Curtis Wright on 7th August 1868 (registered Jan 1869). Son of Frederick Wright and Jessie Wright formerly Curtis. This contradicts Fred Jnr's birth certificate which states Jessie Wright formerly Francis. Haven't sorted that one out yet, because Bertie's birth certificate states Jessie Emma Frances Wright formerly Curtis. I understend that this isn't really helpful, but at least it can be documented here in the discussion page. If anyone knows or finds anything.... Ozzi0206 ( talk) 08:04, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
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Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 00:25, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
So based on the edit that Ssilvers made in which they removed the infobox from the article [1], I will start a conversation regarding adding one to the article. Not quite sure as to why it was removed in the first place as most other articles have one and a consensus is not required. So to be short and sweet should this article have the infobox added? — Mr Xaero ☎️ 16:15, 8 August 2018 (UTC)