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I have concerns about the neutrality. Maybe because it is not much more than a stub, but it skimps over what he did, which was simply horrific. Don't have time to expand now, but might in a few hours when I come back home and Leal is executed (presumably).-- King Bedford I Seek his grace 22:02, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure when it was last updated, but what the article shows as of 7/7/11 at 11:35pm(CT) seems like an acceptable description of the crime without being to graphic. It looks to be updated to describe it properly. --Loveless-- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.152.138.44 ( talk) 04:36, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
I have not seen anything anywhere about just what his immigration status in the U. S. was, certainly nothing to indicate that he had become a naturalized citizen. The big question that every article I have seen on this case fails to address is: at what point did he reveal that he was a citizen of Mexico and not the United States? He had lived here since the age of two, in all probability illegally, so where did he claim to have been born when arrested? It is not part of the state's job in a murder case to investigate the citizenship of the defendant, and if he had claimed to have been born in the U. S. the defense would certainly have claimed it was evidence of bias if the prosecution disputed this. Perhaps someone who really knows this case can clear this up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.233.160.103 ( talk) 19:11, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
He confessed to the crime at his execution. Steve ( talk) 16:18, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
There has been no movement on this issue over the past few days. I've posted on Bedford's talk page to ask him to weigh in again. As this article is politically charged in some circles, I think it's important to maintain the strictest standards of WP:NPOV and WP:V. I propose that if another reliable source cannot be located in the next few days that says Leal was an illegal immigrant, that statement be removed. Sailing to Byzantium ( talk) 05:22, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Is everyone satisfied with the neutrality now? Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 00:03, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Is the fact that he ate tacos before his death in any way relevant to the points made in the rest of the article? It seems rather silly. ItCanHappen ( talk) 02:23, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
The fact that the subject is dead exempts us from WP:BLP but not from WP:V. We must not include the statement that Leal was charged for Sauceda's gang rape. The cited source does not indicate this. The court documents don't indicate this. No source indicates this. In fact, sources specifically state that he didn't show up until later. Why, then, is Bedford insisting that we say he was charged in the gang rape? Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 03:28, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I've been working on the article for the Supreme Court case Leal Garcia v. Texas. I've added a link to the article under the Legal Controversy section. Please let me know if there are any comments or objections! Sailing to Byzantium ( talk) 20:35, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
The current version of this article makes it clear that President Obama was opposed to Garcia being executed. What isn't clear is why the president didn't commute the sentence. Isn't he capable of doing so? Is there any (news) coverage explaining why the president chose not to commute the sentence? -- MZMcBride ( talk) 11:17, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
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I have concerns about the neutrality. Maybe because it is not much more than a stub, but it skimps over what he did, which was simply horrific. Don't have time to expand now, but might in a few hours when I come back home and Leal is executed (presumably).-- King Bedford I Seek his grace 22:02, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure when it was last updated, but what the article shows as of 7/7/11 at 11:35pm(CT) seems like an acceptable description of the crime without being to graphic. It looks to be updated to describe it properly. --Loveless-- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.152.138.44 ( talk) 04:36, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
I have not seen anything anywhere about just what his immigration status in the U. S. was, certainly nothing to indicate that he had become a naturalized citizen. The big question that every article I have seen on this case fails to address is: at what point did he reveal that he was a citizen of Mexico and not the United States? He had lived here since the age of two, in all probability illegally, so where did he claim to have been born when arrested? It is not part of the state's job in a murder case to investigate the citizenship of the defendant, and if he had claimed to have been born in the U. S. the defense would certainly have claimed it was evidence of bias if the prosecution disputed this. Perhaps someone who really knows this case can clear this up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.233.160.103 ( talk) 19:11, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
He confessed to the crime at his execution. Steve ( talk) 16:18, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
There has been no movement on this issue over the past few days. I've posted on Bedford's talk page to ask him to weigh in again. As this article is politically charged in some circles, I think it's important to maintain the strictest standards of WP:NPOV and WP:V. I propose that if another reliable source cannot be located in the next few days that says Leal was an illegal immigrant, that statement be removed. Sailing to Byzantium ( talk) 05:22, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Is everyone satisfied with the neutrality now? Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 00:03, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Is the fact that he ate tacos before his death in any way relevant to the points made in the rest of the article? It seems rather silly. ItCanHappen ( talk) 02:23, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
The fact that the subject is dead exempts us from WP:BLP but not from WP:V. We must not include the statement that Leal was charged for Sauceda's gang rape. The cited source does not indicate this. The court documents don't indicate this. No source indicates this. In fact, sources specifically state that he didn't show up until later. Why, then, is Bedford insisting that we say he was charged in the gang rape? Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 03:28, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I've been working on the article for the Supreme Court case Leal Garcia v. Texas. I've added a link to the article under the Legal Controversy section. Please let me know if there are any comments or objections! Sailing to Byzantium ( talk) 20:35, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
The current version of this article makes it clear that President Obama was opposed to Garcia being executed. What isn't clear is why the president didn't commute the sentence. Isn't he capable of doing so? Is there any (news) coverage explaining why the president chose not to commute the sentence? -- MZMcBride ( talk) 11:17, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
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