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This article needs reliable, neutral, third-party sources. See WP:RS. Ensaaf is neither neutral, reliable (by WP policies), notable, or third-party. Human Rights Watch arguably is notable and third-party, and might be used as a source for charges, but the charges can't be presented as fact, which the original version of this article did (and which continues in some parts of the current version). Further, the article must be written with a neutral tone. See WP:NPOV. Priyanath talk 17:24, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
The focus of Ensaaf is not human rights in Punjab, according to its front page, it is "A mission to end impunity". Its banner also says "End Impunity. Achieve Justice." and continues "Ensaaf is a nonprofit organization working to end impunity and achieve justice for mass state crimes in India, with a focus on Punjab."
Contrast to Amnesty International: "Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights"
and to
Human Rights Watch "Human Rights Watch | Defending Human Rights Worldwide".
Clearly Ensaaf has a mission to end impunity. Therefore it has a strong (mission == strong) point of view that impunity is bad. Further it has a strong point of view that India committed "mass state crimes".
I am sure this is an EXCELLENT organization, and pursuing justice is for me a highly respectable thing to do. But having already decided the state is guilty, and that impunity must be ended so that there can be "justice"... stronlgy PoV. This does not make them useless as a source. It simply means we must be wise. - sinneed ( talk) 19:10, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Human rights were violated by both Khalistani terrorists AND security forces. So I have added a section on it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.51.223.161 ( talk) 04:06, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
published by "A group of dedicated Sikhs to create awareness about Sikh issues in Canada and abroad. Not even an organization named. - sinneed ( talk) 02:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Would a merge be a good idea? - sinneed ( talk) 03:33, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
i have read many RELIABLE sources, and I think this article is biased against the khalistan movement Chocokake5057 ( talk) 23:23, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 ( talk) 03:10, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
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This article needs reliable, neutral, third-party sources. See WP:RS. Ensaaf is neither neutral, reliable (by WP policies), notable, or third-party. Human Rights Watch arguably is notable and third-party, and might be used as a source for charges, but the charges can't be presented as fact, which the original version of this article did (and which continues in some parts of the current version). Further, the article must be written with a neutral tone. See WP:NPOV. Priyanath talk 17:24, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
The focus of Ensaaf is not human rights in Punjab, according to its front page, it is "A mission to end impunity". Its banner also says "End Impunity. Achieve Justice." and continues "Ensaaf is a nonprofit organization working to end impunity and achieve justice for mass state crimes in India, with a focus on Punjab."
Contrast to Amnesty International: "Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights"
and to
Human Rights Watch "Human Rights Watch | Defending Human Rights Worldwide".
Clearly Ensaaf has a mission to end impunity. Therefore it has a strong (mission == strong) point of view that impunity is bad. Further it has a strong point of view that India committed "mass state crimes".
I am sure this is an EXCELLENT organization, and pursuing justice is for me a highly respectable thing to do. But having already decided the state is guilty, and that impunity must be ended so that there can be "justice"... stronlgy PoV. This does not make them useless as a source. It simply means we must be wise. - sinneed ( talk) 19:10, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Human rights were violated by both Khalistani terrorists AND security forces. So I have added a section on it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.51.223.161 ( talk) 04:06, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
published by "A group of dedicated Sikhs to create awareness about Sikh issues in Canada and abroad. Not even an organization named. - sinneed ( talk) 02:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Would a merge be a good idea? - sinneed ( talk) 03:33, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
i have read many RELIABLE sources, and I think this article is biased against the khalistan movement Chocokake5057 ( talk) 23:23, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 ( talk) 03:10, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
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