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Far more than half of the conscriptees in Finland serve for 6 months, the minimum term. The other service lengths are 9 and 12 months for officer training; not nearly enough people enter those to drive the average two months from 6. It should be noted that the 8 months as average term claim was disputed by pro-peace organizations and the civil servicemen's union, as it was used as an excuse why a 12 month civil service term would not be punitive in length alone (as the 13-month one was said to be). This matter was a sore spot for Finland's right-wing government at the time, as Finland was on Amnesty's concern list for the treatment of conscription refuseniks: Amnesty's basis for this was that the 13-month alternative term was obviously punitive and thus a sentence of hard time is contrary to human rights. Apologies, but all my sources are either in Finnish or not online. -- 194.187.213.95 ( talk) 17:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
The case refers to Ukrainians who had claimed refugee status but were denied and slated for deportation. When the family refused to be deported, the police ordered the police station's doctor to drug the deportees. Polemic ensued when the doctor refused to do so, citing ethical reasons, and the refugee detention center's nurse was pressured by the police to administer the sedatives instead of the doctor. In the end, the police was cleared of any wrongdoing and the court instead fined both the doctor (for failing to his duties) and the nurse (for accepting duties that fall outside of what nurses are allowed to perform). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.114.227.35 ( talk) 14:41, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Ilaiho removed my addition: "The politicians elect the mayors. This increase the risk of corruption. The mayor has no direct responsibility to the citizens." [1]. This is an open opportunity for everybody. Please add reference in the critics. I remember reading from the HS pages critics of a lawyer that the Finnish mayors are not in true accountability to the voters. Watti Renew ( talk) 15:35, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Some years ago there was a scandal of women harassment in the Parliament of Finland. This was reported in Helsingin Sanomat. A conservative ( National Coalition Party) member of Parliament sued Helsingin Sanomat in the court of writing about the feelings of the women. Some male MP names were given based on interviews. The result was in my opinion the most worrying and distracting. The Parliament decided that if women feel harassment in the Parliament they have no right to use their freedom of expression about it. The problems must be solved in secret within the Parliament and voters have no right to know about it. Wouldn't the publicity be the most effective way to equality of sex in the politics? Can such a decision be legal? In my opinion the freedom of expression must be followed based on the international agreements. This freedom should include also the expression of critics of men in the parliament and feelings of harassment. Feeling of harassment is subjective. However, there was little apologies by the members of the Parliament. Instaed persons concerned denied the feelings of the counterparty and sued the newspaper. The Parliament removed the freedom of expression of the persons concered. Help. Is this ok? How it would have been addressed in other countries? Watti Renew ( talk) 16:41, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
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[2]: (The Finland's Ombudsman for Equality lacks personnel resources to enforce the law - that requires companies to make a gender equality plan in companies)
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User:Jaakko Sivonen [3], Greenpeace concern and message was international. Issue may be included in the Greenpeace page if you like. Here it deserves in my opinion place, since I can continue with the respond in Finland. Watti Renew ( talk) 16:57, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
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The section mentions a ECHR decision against Finland in the case of the Iraqi asylum seeker. On 7/13/2021, this decision was overturned, after it was found the documentation the applicant's case rested on was forged, and the case was duly dismissed as inadmissible. Please see https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/finland_did_not_violate_human_rights_in_iraqi_asylum_seeker_fake_death_case_european_court_says/12019460 for a news source on this, and https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng#{%22sort%22:%5B%22kpdate%20Descending%22%5D,%22respondent%22:%5B%22FIN%22%5D,%22itemid%22:%5B%22001-211120%22%5D} for the court decision.
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Far more than half of the conscriptees in Finland serve for 6 months, the minimum term. The other service lengths are 9 and 12 months for officer training; not nearly enough people enter those to drive the average two months from 6. It should be noted that the 8 months as average term claim was disputed by pro-peace organizations and the civil servicemen's union, as it was used as an excuse why a 12 month civil service term would not be punitive in length alone (as the 13-month one was said to be). This matter was a sore spot for Finland's right-wing government at the time, as Finland was on Amnesty's concern list for the treatment of conscription refuseniks: Amnesty's basis for this was that the 13-month alternative term was obviously punitive and thus a sentence of hard time is contrary to human rights. Apologies, but all my sources are either in Finnish or not online. -- 194.187.213.95 ( talk) 17:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
The case refers to Ukrainians who had claimed refugee status but were denied and slated for deportation. When the family refused to be deported, the police ordered the police station's doctor to drug the deportees. Polemic ensued when the doctor refused to do so, citing ethical reasons, and the refugee detention center's nurse was pressured by the police to administer the sedatives instead of the doctor. In the end, the police was cleared of any wrongdoing and the court instead fined both the doctor (for failing to his duties) and the nurse (for accepting duties that fall outside of what nurses are allowed to perform). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.114.227.35 ( talk) 14:41, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Ilaiho removed my addition: "The politicians elect the mayors. This increase the risk of corruption. The mayor has no direct responsibility to the citizens." [1]. This is an open opportunity for everybody. Please add reference in the critics. I remember reading from the HS pages critics of a lawyer that the Finnish mayors are not in true accountability to the voters. Watti Renew ( talk) 15:35, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Some years ago there was a scandal of women harassment in the Parliament of Finland. This was reported in Helsingin Sanomat. A conservative ( National Coalition Party) member of Parliament sued Helsingin Sanomat in the court of writing about the feelings of the women. Some male MP names were given based on interviews. The result was in my opinion the most worrying and distracting. The Parliament decided that if women feel harassment in the Parliament they have no right to use their freedom of expression about it. The problems must be solved in secret within the Parliament and voters have no right to know about it. Wouldn't the publicity be the most effective way to equality of sex in the politics? Can such a decision be legal? In my opinion the freedom of expression must be followed based on the international agreements. This freedom should include also the expression of critics of men in the parliament and feelings of harassment. Feeling of harassment is subjective. However, there was little apologies by the members of the Parliament. Instaed persons concerned denied the feelings of the counterparty and sued the newspaper. The Parliament removed the freedom of expression of the persons concered. Help. Is this ok? How it would have been addressed in other countries? Watti Renew ( talk) 16:41, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
User:128.214.197.79, I recommend to register.
Your removal
[2]: (The Finland's Ombudsman for Equality lacks personnel resources to enforce the law - that requires companies to make a gender equality plan in companies)
- As leading party the conservative
National Coalition Party has been in government for recent years and prevented sufficient funds to investigate sex discrimination cases at work.
User:Jaakko Sivonen [3], Greenpeace concern and message was international. Issue may be included in the Greenpeace page if you like. Here it deserves in my opinion place, since I can continue with the respond in Finland. Watti Renew ( talk) 16:57, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
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The section mentions a ECHR decision against Finland in the case of the Iraqi asylum seeker. On 7/13/2021, this decision was overturned, after it was found the documentation the applicant's case rested on was forged, and the case was duly dismissed as inadmissible. Please see https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/finland_did_not_violate_human_rights_in_iraqi_asylum_seeker_fake_death_case_european_court_says/12019460 for a news source on this, and https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng#{%22sort%22:%5B%22kpdate%20Descending%22%5D,%22respondent%22:%5B%22FIN%22%5D,%22itemid%22:%5B%22001-211120%22%5D} for the court decision.
Would take to the task myself, but not comfortable with the editor except for minor edits.