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should titles of Pratt's work be in Italian, French OR in both languages? User:wathiik
Is ridiculous that the article says his paternal grandfather was english. Another one of those thousand of chauvinist anglosphere articles. Paternal family origin was France (not England). In fact his family had to escape from Cornwall back to France because they're catholics and England authorities persecuted them. How is possible the article says part of his family was english? No mention about his rich genealogy, maternal side were sephardites (Toledano family). To consign that rampant manipulation would've be better to say Pratt nationality is italian and nothing else.
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Is ridiculous that the article says his paternal grandfather was english. Another one of those thousand of chauvinist anglosphere articles. Paternal family origin was France (not England). In fact his family had to escape from Cornwall back to France because they're catholics and England authorities persecuted them. How is possible the article says part of his family was english? No mention about his rich genealogy, maternal side were sephardites (Toledano family). To consign that rampant manipulation would've be better to say Pratt nationality is italian and nothing else.
It should be mentionned that a lot of the things reported about the life of Hugo Pratt are merely author's legends. I don't mean it pejoratively, but Pratt was a storyteller. In his biography, he declares : "I have 13 differents ways to tell my life, and I don't know which one is true, I don't even know if one is truer than the other." (sorry for the bad translation).
He loved fables and legends and one of his favourite game during interviews was to mix truth and lies. He also loved to make people believe to the authenticity of his characters: he wrote a fake letter mentioning the "true" Corto Maltese for the preface of "ballad of the salted sea"; he constantly telled that he had met lieutenant Koinsky, the main character of "the scorpions of the desert", while this is a fictive character. And of course, some real historical characters appeared in his comics : Jack London, Gabriele d'Annunzio, Soukhé Bator, Ungern-Sternberg, Enver Pacha...
I own a magazine dedicated to Hugo Pratt, with interviews of about 20-30 differents people who knew him personally : friends, wife, authors, drawers, colleagues, publishers, and so on. What they say about Hugo Pratt is inter contradictory. For instance, about his Marrano Jew ancestors : one of his childhood friends say it's true (even if Hugo denied it thereafter) while his ex-wife Anne Frognier says it's pure invention. This is juste one example. Basically it's like they're not talking of the same person. Hugo Pratt was a man with different faces.
Some other thoughts. No pun intended but Hugo Pratt was a "huge" man on differents aspects :
Last thing I'd like to tell about is the fact that Pratt is often credited for introducing the comic-book in the "adult" world. The comics were - and are still often nowadays; considered as juvenile art.
The comics of Pratt, especially the adventures of Corto Maltese, are full of historical background, culture and even philosophy or reflexion on life. For that matter, Corto did not get a tremendous success in the magazine for children "Pif-gadget". While "serious" authors like Umberto Eco have praised Corto Maltese. The expression "graphic novel" was coined for this comic.
It's just a few ideas...
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Was he returned to Italy alone, or together with his mother? (In the latter case, it should read "were".) I don't see any references in the paragraph that may throw light on that point. The Crab Who Played With The Sea ( talk) 02:10, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
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should titles of Pratt's work be in Italian, French OR in both languages? User:wathiik
Is ridiculous that the article says his paternal grandfather was english. Another one of those thousand of chauvinist anglosphere articles. Paternal family origin was France (not England). In fact his family had to escape from Cornwall back to France because they're catholics and England authorities persecuted them. How is possible the article says part of his family was english? No mention about his rich genealogy, maternal side were sephardites (Toledano family). To consign that rampant manipulation would've be better to say Pratt nationality is italian and nothing else.
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Is ridiculous that the article says his paternal grandfather was english. Another one of those thousand of chauvinist anglosphere articles. Paternal family origin was France (not England). In fact his family had to escape from Cornwall back to France because they're catholics and England authorities persecuted them. How is possible the article says part of his family was english? No mention about his rich genealogy, maternal side were sephardites (Toledano family). To consign that rampant manipulation would've be better to say Pratt nationality is italian and nothing else.
It should be mentionned that a lot of the things reported about the life of Hugo Pratt are merely author's legends. I don't mean it pejoratively, but Pratt was a storyteller. In his biography, he declares : "I have 13 differents ways to tell my life, and I don't know which one is true, I don't even know if one is truer than the other." (sorry for the bad translation).
He loved fables and legends and one of his favourite game during interviews was to mix truth and lies. He also loved to make people believe to the authenticity of his characters: he wrote a fake letter mentioning the "true" Corto Maltese for the preface of "ballad of the salted sea"; he constantly telled that he had met lieutenant Koinsky, the main character of "the scorpions of the desert", while this is a fictive character. And of course, some real historical characters appeared in his comics : Jack London, Gabriele d'Annunzio, Soukhé Bator, Ungern-Sternberg, Enver Pacha...
I own a magazine dedicated to Hugo Pratt, with interviews of about 20-30 differents people who knew him personally : friends, wife, authors, drawers, colleagues, publishers, and so on. What they say about Hugo Pratt is inter contradictory. For instance, about his Marrano Jew ancestors : one of his childhood friends say it's true (even if Hugo denied it thereafter) while his ex-wife Anne Frognier says it's pure invention. This is juste one example. Basically it's like they're not talking of the same person. Hugo Pratt was a man with different faces.
Some other thoughts. No pun intended but Hugo Pratt was a "huge" man on differents aspects :
Last thing I'd like to tell about is the fact that Pratt is often credited for introducing the comic-book in the "adult" world. The comics were - and are still often nowadays; considered as juvenile art.
The comics of Pratt, especially the adventures of Corto Maltese, are full of historical background, culture and even philosophy or reflexion on life. For that matter, Corto did not get a tremendous success in the magazine for children "Pif-gadget". While "serious" authors like Umberto Eco have praised Corto Maltese. The expression "graphic novel" was coined for this comic.
It's just a few ideas...
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Was he returned to Italy alone, or together with his mother? (In the latter case, it should read "were".) I don't see any references in the paragraph that may throw light on that point. The Crab Who Played With The Sea ( talk) 02:10, 4 December 2020 (UTC)