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I was looking into whether this article should be delisted or not. I asked at the Teahouse and the editor that responded didn't seem to think my rationale was necessarily bad, but I've recently had AfDs that went poorly so I figured I would drop my rationale here on the talk page and if someone else decides to pursue the delisting process they can do so. Here was my reasoning:
The article appears to have significant notability issues. According to WP:FLCR, featured lists should “cover a topic that lends itself to list format and ... meet the requirements for all Wikipedia content.” Most of the sources currently being cited are not reliable and independent secondary sources. Some of them don’t even mention the words “fancast” or “podcast” such as The Guardian article, which is about a book not a podcast. The only result on Google News for “Hugo Award for Best Fancast” is this trivial mention by Locus Magazine. Searching for “Hugo Award” “Best Fancast” gets some hits on Google News, but it’s all extremely WP:ROUTINE even for demonstrating notability of the award itself rather than this category specifically. Google Books and Google Scholar yield even fewer results with nothing that contains in-depth or significant coverage of this specific award category. I don’t see how this specific category of the award is independently notable from the Hugo Award and even if the Hugo Award is notable this category does not WP:INHERIT that notability. The subject of the article is very specific and I don’t think it’s appropriate to have a stand alone list per WP:SALAT. I also noticed while assessing the article that there are quite a few other “Hugo Award for Best <media type>” such as Hugo Award for Best Fanzine and Hugo Award for Best Fan Writer (it appears the same editor got at least 15 award categories promoted to featured sometime around 2010), but claiming that this article should not be deleted or not be delisted because similar articles exist would likely be considered an example of WP:OTHERSTUFF. The article was promoted to a featured list in 2015, but there doesn’t appear to be any discussion about the article’s notability during the nomination. I think the article should either be merged with the award or deleted, but delisting would likely be the first step.
I previously tried creating articles for the separate years of the iHeartRadio awards and in the end none of mine got published and others got deleted, which I understand this rationale would be considered WP:OTHERSTUFF but I think the example maps on pretty well and I'm trying to explain where I'm coming from here rather than persuade anyone of my above rationale. I'm wondering if I'm missing some really obvious policy or guideline and wanted some input. Don't ping me though if you're just here to yell at me. TipsyElephant ( talk) 15:23, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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I was looking into whether this article should be delisted or not. I asked at the Teahouse and the editor that responded didn't seem to think my rationale was necessarily bad, but I've recently had AfDs that went poorly so I figured I would drop my rationale here on the talk page and if someone else decides to pursue the delisting process they can do so. Here was my reasoning:
The article appears to have significant notability issues. According to WP:FLCR, featured lists should “cover a topic that lends itself to list format and ... meet the requirements for all Wikipedia content.” Most of the sources currently being cited are not reliable and independent secondary sources. Some of them don’t even mention the words “fancast” or “podcast” such as The Guardian article, which is about a book not a podcast. The only result on Google News for “Hugo Award for Best Fancast” is this trivial mention by Locus Magazine. Searching for “Hugo Award” “Best Fancast” gets some hits on Google News, but it’s all extremely WP:ROUTINE even for demonstrating notability of the award itself rather than this category specifically. Google Books and Google Scholar yield even fewer results with nothing that contains in-depth or significant coverage of this specific award category. I don’t see how this specific category of the award is independently notable from the Hugo Award and even if the Hugo Award is notable this category does not WP:INHERIT that notability. The subject of the article is very specific and I don’t think it’s appropriate to have a stand alone list per WP:SALAT. I also noticed while assessing the article that there are quite a few other “Hugo Award for Best <media type>” such as Hugo Award for Best Fanzine and Hugo Award for Best Fan Writer (it appears the same editor got at least 15 award categories promoted to featured sometime around 2010), but claiming that this article should not be deleted or not be delisted because similar articles exist would likely be considered an example of WP:OTHERSTUFF. The article was promoted to a featured list in 2015, but there doesn’t appear to be any discussion about the article’s notability during the nomination. I think the article should either be merged with the award or deleted, but delisting would likely be the first step.
I previously tried creating articles for the separate years of the iHeartRadio awards and in the end none of mine got published and others got deleted, which I understand this rationale would be considered WP:OTHERSTUFF but I think the example maps on pretty well and I'm trying to explain where I'm coming from here rather than persuade anyone of my above rationale. I'm wondering if I'm missing some really obvious policy or guideline and wanted some input. Don't ping me though if you're just here to yell at me. TipsyElephant ( talk) 15:23, 30 July 2021 (UTC)