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The amount of labor employed to install all of the stone trails is incredible, certainly along the lines of building the great pyramids in Egypt. Information regarding this amazing feat of human engineering and labor should be included in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.108.124.140 ( talk) 07:35, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
This title is a misnomer. Shan means mountain so Mount Huangshan means Mount Mount Huang. This should be either changed to Mount Huang or Huangshan. Mandel 14:07, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)
I think thats true. I was going to say that Shan means mountains, so it should just be called HuangShang, or something like that. - Freddy Tsao
In the other articles about Chinese mountains, like Mount Tai, Mount Hua, Mount Heng, Mount Song, Mount Putuo, etc., the name "Shan" is always treated as "Mount". For that reason, I propose that the article name be change to "Mount Huang" (with all the proper redirects for "Yellow Mountain", "Mount Yellow", and "Huangshan"). What do y'all think? LedRush ( talk) 14:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUWJHJJJJ. Xz 09:51, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
The Image gallery in the article is pretty big (granted, I have been adding to it, but it was big even before I came along). Is it possible to create a corresponding gallery of these images at Commons (there is already a linked Commons page, but the images it has are very different) linked from this article, and then not have such a big gallery here? Also, of course, as the article grows, more images can be worked into the main body of the article (I'm about to try squeezine some in right now).
An alternate solution would be to put the image gallery within a {{show}} template, so that it is still in the article but not so in-your-face. I don't know what the standard is, though, on using {{show}} in articles. — Politizer( talk • contribs ) 15:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
The latest source I added to the article seems to be very good, and I think we can use it to make some nice expansions to the article. Here is the source:
{{
cite web}}
: External link in |work=
(
help); Unknown parameter |month=
ignored (
help)(The ref is named "UNEP", if you want to cite stuff inline).
It seems much more credible than most of the sources in the article now, and its status as a review of material makes it more desirable and NPOV than primary sources. Of course, we don't want to base the whole article off of one source, but I do think it's ok to lean more heavily on this source than the others, at least until we've found some other comparably good sources. — Politizer( talk • contribs ) 19:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
I added a new section on what Huangshan is significant for in terms of what people do with it; I am drawing a blank on what to call it (I know there's a good term, I have just gone braindead right now) so I tentatively called it "Uses." That is a pretty lame section title, so if you think of a better title before I do you are more than welcome to change it (in fact, I urge you to change it!). — Politizer( talk • contribs ) 20:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
I started reading this article. Images and references look fine. After I finish reading it, I anticipate passing it without delay. Crystal whacker ( talk) 19:33, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
"watching the sunrise is considered by many to be a "mandatory" part of visiting the area." Does the reference say that it's "considered by many" or is the reference speaking only for itself? I'm just making sure you're not "cheating" here. :) Crystal whacker ( talk) 19:52, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
"The mountains were formed in the Mesozoic, about 100 million years ago, when an ancient sea disappeared due to uplift.[citation needed]" As I said in a previous review, I will pass an article with only one missing citation, but I do need to ask. Every other statement that should need a citation has one. Crystal whacker ( talk) 20:17, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the answers. The issue with the citation appears to be a non-critical item, and I will pass the article regardless. I encourage you to work it out with Led Rush.
Congratulations on an outstanding article with beautiful photographs. I learned something by reading it. Crystal whacker ( talk) 21:51, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Moved to Huangshan Mountains. The article is mostly about the range as made clear in the first sentence. If the main peak should have its own article, then I would suggest Huangshan Mountain as the best choice to avoid a proposal to move the dab page. Clearly from the discussion and inbound links, Huangshan is the preferred to Huang. Vegaswikian ( talk) 19:52, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
We need to re-open the discussion about the name of this mountain!
According to the Pinyin spelling rules of the 1950s (under Mao), the Chinese 黄山 should be spelled Huang Shan in Pinyin (two separate capitalized words). In English, this would indeed mean Mount Huang or Yellow Mountain or Huang Mountain. The spelling in two words means that shan has its own meaning and is not part of a proper name. The spelling in one word would mean that it is a proper name.
However, this Pinyin spelling rule has never made its way into international conventions. An overwhelming majority is using Huangshan, spelled in one word, both for the prefectural city and for the mountains. See this google trend for Huangshan and Huang Shan or this one for Huangshan and Mount Huang. This clearly shows that Huangshan is generally accepted as the proper name of the mountain and of the city.
I suggest to follow international habits and use the following names here:
For reference, some more google popularity Pinyin spelling checks for two character proper names of mountains and rivers:
You will see that only for Huangshan, there is a clear web vote for spelling in one word. Shenhemu ( talk) 07:49, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
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The amount of labor employed to install all of the stone trails is incredible, certainly along the lines of building the great pyramids in Egypt. Information regarding this amazing feat of human engineering and labor should be included in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.108.124.140 ( talk) 07:35, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
This title is a misnomer. Shan means mountain so Mount Huangshan means Mount Mount Huang. This should be either changed to Mount Huang or Huangshan. Mandel 14:07, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)
I think thats true. I was going to say that Shan means mountains, so it should just be called HuangShang, or something like that. - Freddy Tsao
In the other articles about Chinese mountains, like Mount Tai, Mount Hua, Mount Heng, Mount Song, Mount Putuo, etc., the name "Shan" is always treated as "Mount". For that reason, I propose that the article name be change to "Mount Huang" (with all the proper redirects for "Yellow Mountain", "Mount Yellow", and "Huangshan"). What do y'all think? LedRush ( talk) 14:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUWJHJJJJ. Xz 09:51, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
The Image gallery in the article is pretty big (granted, I have been adding to it, but it was big even before I came along). Is it possible to create a corresponding gallery of these images at Commons (there is already a linked Commons page, but the images it has are very different) linked from this article, and then not have such a big gallery here? Also, of course, as the article grows, more images can be worked into the main body of the article (I'm about to try squeezine some in right now).
An alternate solution would be to put the image gallery within a {{show}} template, so that it is still in the article but not so in-your-face. I don't know what the standard is, though, on using {{show}} in articles. — Politizer( talk • contribs ) 15:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
The latest source I added to the article seems to be very good, and I think we can use it to make some nice expansions to the article. Here is the source:
{{
cite web}}
: External link in |work=
(
help); Unknown parameter |month=
ignored (
help)(The ref is named "UNEP", if you want to cite stuff inline).
It seems much more credible than most of the sources in the article now, and its status as a review of material makes it more desirable and NPOV than primary sources. Of course, we don't want to base the whole article off of one source, but I do think it's ok to lean more heavily on this source than the others, at least until we've found some other comparably good sources. — Politizer( talk • contribs ) 19:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
I added a new section on what Huangshan is significant for in terms of what people do with it; I am drawing a blank on what to call it (I know there's a good term, I have just gone braindead right now) so I tentatively called it "Uses." That is a pretty lame section title, so if you think of a better title before I do you are more than welcome to change it (in fact, I urge you to change it!). — Politizer( talk • contribs ) 20:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
I started reading this article. Images and references look fine. After I finish reading it, I anticipate passing it without delay. Crystal whacker ( talk) 19:33, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
"watching the sunrise is considered by many to be a "mandatory" part of visiting the area." Does the reference say that it's "considered by many" or is the reference speaking only for itself? I'm just making sure you're not "cheating" here. :) Crystal whacker ( talk) 19:52, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
"The mountains were formed in the Mesozoic, about 100 million years ago, when an ancient sea disappeared due to uplift.[citation needed]" As I said in a previous review, I will pass an article with only one missing citation, but I do need to ask. Every other statement that should need a citation has one. Crystal whacker ( talk) 20:17, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the answers. The issue with the citation appears to be a non-critical item, and I will pass the article regardless. I encourage you to work it out with Led Rush.
Congratulations on an outstanding article with beautiful photographs. I learned something by reading it. Crystal whacker ( talk) 21:51, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Moved to Huangshan Mountains. The article is mostly about the range as made clear in the first sentence. If the main peak should have its own article, then I would suggest Huangshan Mountain as the best choice to avoid a proposal to move the dab page. Clearly from the discussion and inbound links, Huangshan is the preferred to Huang. Vegaswikian ( talk) 19:52, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
We need to re-open the discussion about the name of this mountain!
According to the Pinyin spelling rules of the 1950s (under Mao), the Chinese 黄山 should be spelled Huang Shan in Pinyin (two separate capitalized words). In English, this would indeed mean Mount Huang or Yellow Mountain or Huang Mountain. The spelling in two words means that shan has its own meaning and is not part of a proper name. The spelling in one word would mean that it is a proper name.
However, this Pinyin spelling rule has never made its way into international conventions. An overwhelming majority is using Huangshan, spelled in one word, both for the prefectural city and for the mountains. See this google trend for Huangshan and Huang Shan or this one for Huangshan and Mount Huang. This clearly shows that Huangshan is generally accepted as the proper name of the mountain and of the city.
I suggest to follow international habits and use the following names here:
For reference, some more google popularity Pinyin spelling checks for two character proper names of mountains and rivers:
You will see that only for Huangshan, there is a clear web vote for spelling in one word. Shenhemu ( talk) 07:49, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
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