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The article is edited thus: "In 1116, Hoysala King Vishnuvardhana defeated the Cholas of Tanjore and annexed Gangavadi (modern southern Karnataka),[15] thus bringing the region back under native rule. In the following decades, with the waning of the Chalukya power, the Hoysalas proclaimed independence and grew into one of most powerful ruling families of southern India.[2][16] Consequently, literature in Kannada, the local language, flourished in the Hoysala empire."
The question that rises now is that from the time the Chola occupation of Gangavadi started, was there no development of Kannada literature or whatever literature that sought to develop, in Kannada, was stifled somehow by the Chola rule. The article also seeks to negatively portray and assumes a diabolic POV in suggesting that after defeat of the Cholas, and resumption of "native" rule the literature in Kannada "consequently" started flourishing. I would claim that if that was the case then lot of Tamil literature would have emerged from Kannada country (in the period of occupation of Gangavadi) from around 1000 AD when Raja Raja Chola occupied Gangavadi till 1116 when it went back under "native" rule.
The fact is that there is no connection whatsoever with the development or lack of it, of Kannada literature, with occupation of Gangavadi by the Cholas or indeed its being regained by the Hoysalas under Vishnuvardhana, from the Cholas. I can also quote from other books by other authors like K.A.Nilakanta Sastri etc. all of whom speak independently about the development of Kannada literature over the centuries including under the Hoysalas, but no one has made this unique assumption, presumption and the consequent statement that flourishing of Kannada literature in the Hoysala empire (mainly if not only) after regaining of Gangavadi from the Cholas. Yes, Gangavadi was the base of the Hoysalas in the Mysore plateau, but it is fallacious to presume that because Gangavadi was with the Cholas Kannada literature could not flourish there as a consequence. Also, it is wrong to assume (if that was sought to be conveyed) that Cholas caused suppression of Kannada literature during their occupation of Gangavadi. The Cholas have never been known to suppress local literature, including of their overseas territories either in Sri Lanka or in S.E.Asia.
I guess the above are reasons strong enough to justify removal of the lines "In 1116, Hoysala King ................In the decades," It makes perfect logic to write thus: With the waning of Chalukya power, the Hoysalas regained independence...... etc. etc."
Srirangam99 ( talk) 06:47, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
When talking about measures in poetry the word is "meters" not "metres". "Metres" can only be used of the SI unit of distance. First time I've seen a howler like this on the article of the day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.118.45 ( talk) 01:45, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
In the overview section there is a link to Bhagavata in a sentence that groups it with the Ramayana and Mahabharat. Since the Bhagavata article doesn't refer to any literature, I assume it must either be talking about the Bhagavad Gita or the Bhagavata Purana. It currenlty doesn't link to either of these articles and is quite ambigous so I suggest clarifying which text is it referring to. Gizza Discuss © 13:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Happy to help. Looking quickly, it looks like you're using en-dashes without spaces a lot. If the meaning is a pause (where you might see parentheses, ellipses or colons) instead of "between", then use either spaced en-dashes or unspaced em-dashes.
Literature in the Hoysala Empire#Overview
- Dan Dank55 ( talk) ( mistakes) 20:14, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Literature in the Hoysala Empire#Jain epics:
Things went fairly smoothly until I got to the last paragraph of the "Age of Harihara". I'm having trouble with "Kereya Padmarasa (1165), a Veerashaiva poet patronised by king Narasimha I wrote Dikshabodhe in the ragale metre and would become the protagonist of a later work Padmarajapurana; the brahmin poets, Deva Kavi (1200) who authored a romance piece called Kusumavali, and Kavi Kama (12th century), the author of a treatise called Sringara-ratnakara on the rasa (flavor) of poetical sentiment." I'm confused about the meaning. Does the first part of this mean that the poet, Padmarasa, became the main character in a work by Padmarajapurana? I'm also confused by the list of three writers. It seems to be a sentence without a main verb. Finetooth ( talk) 03:33, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Someone fix it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.82.239 ( talk) 17:01, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
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The article is edited thus: "In 1116, Hoysala King Vishnuvardhana defeated the Cholas of Tanjore and annexed Gangavadi (modern southern Karnataka),[15] thus bringing the region back under native rule. In the following decades, with the waning of the Chalukya power, the Hoysalas proclaimed independence and grew into one of most powerful ruling families of southern India.[2][16] Consequently, literature in Kannada, the local language, flourished in the Hoysala empire."
The question that rises now is that from the time the Chola occupation of Gangavadi started, was there no development of Kannada literature or whatever literature that sought to develop, in Kannada, was stifled somehow by the Chola rule. The article also seeks to negatively portray and assumes a diabolic POV in suggesting that after defeat of the Cholas, and resumption of "native" rule the literature in Kannada "consequently" started flourishing. I would claim that if that was the case then lot of Tamil literature would have emerged from Kannada country (in the period of occupation of Gangavadi) from around 1000 AD when Raja Raja Chola occupied Gangavadi till 1116 when it went back under "native" rule.
The fact is that there is no connection whatsoever with the development or lack of it, of Kannada literature, with occupation of Gangavadi by the Cholas or indeed its being regained by the Hoysalas under Vishnuvardhana, from the Cholas. I can also quote from other books by other authors like K.A.Nilakanta Sastri etc. all of whom speak independently about the development of Kannada literature over the centuries including under the Hoysalas, but no one has made this unique assumption, presumption and the consequent statement that flourishing of Kannada literature in the Hoysala empire (mainly if not only) after regaining of Gangavadi from the Cholas. Yes, Gangavadi was the base of the Hoysalas in the Mysore plateau, but it is fallacious to presume that because Gangavadi was with the Cholas Kannada literature could not flourish there as a consequence. Also, it is wrong to assume (if that was sought to be conveyed) that Cholas caused suppression of Kannada literature during their occupation of Gangavadi. The Cholas have never been known to suppress local literature, including of their overseas territories either in Sri Lanka or in S.E.Asia.
I guess the above are reasons strong enough to justify removal of the lines "In 1116, Hoysala King ................In the decades," It makes perfect logic to write thus: With the waning of Chalukya power, the Hoysalas regained independence...... etc. etc."
Srirangam99 ( talk) 06:47, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
When talking about measures in poetry the word is "meters" not "metres". "Metres" can only be used of the SI unit of distance. First time I've seen a howler like this on the article of the day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.118.45 ( talk) 01:45, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
In the overview section there is a link to Bhagavata in a sentence that groups it with the Ramayana and Mahabharat. Since the Bhagavata article doesn't refer to any literature, I assume it must either be talking about the Bhagavad Gita or the Bhagavata Purana. It currenlty doesn't link to either of these articles and is quite ambigous so I suggest clarifying which text is it referring to. Gizza Discuss © 13:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Happy to help. Looking quickly, it looks like you're using en-dashes without spaces a lot. If the meaning is a pause (where you might see parentheses, ellipses or colons) instead of "between", then use either spaced en-dashes or unspaced em-dashes.
Literature in the Hoysala Empire#Overview
- Dan Dank55 ( talk) ( mistakes) 20:14, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Literature in the Hoysala Empire#Jain epics:
Things went fairly smoothly until I got to the last paragraph of the "Age of Harihara". I'm having trouble with "Kereya Padmarasa (1165), a Veerashaiva poet patronised by king Narasimha I wrote Dikshabodhe in the ragale metre and would become the protagonist of a later work Padmarajapurana; the brahmin poets, Deva Kavi (1200) who authored a romance piece called Kusumavali, and Kavi Kama (12th century), the author of a treatise called Sringara-ratnakara on the rasa (flavor) of poetical sentiment." I'm confused about the meaning. Does the first part of this mean that the poet, Padmarasa, became the main character in a work by Padmarajapurana? I'm also confused by the list of three writers. It seems to be a sentence without a main verb. Finetooth ( talk) 03:33, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Someone fix it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.82.239 ( talk) 17:01, 15 August 2011 (UTC)