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According to this link, she only has two GM norms so far (first ar Aeroflot, second at World Junior). [1] I'm editing the article, and Chess prodigy article, accordingly. Peter Ballard ( talk) 11:32, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Can I just ask a question - usually when someone gets the GM title people usually say they got it at x years, x months, x days here. Is this when they get the third norm (ie the last day of that tournament) or when the new FIDE rating list comes out or when FIDE officially declares so? thanks. Video*winter ( talk) 19:46, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Susan Polgar also said she is a gm-elect here in her ChessCafe.com column. What does GM-elect mean? That she will definitely become a grandmaster come October '08(??) RybCRLSN ( talk) 14:45, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Guagd just made an update that says that Yifan's title has been ratified. Unfortunately the link provided is dead: http://www.fide.com/component/content/article/1-fide-news/3583--titles-approved-at-the-79th-fide-congress- Laserlight ( talk) 17:57, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Do you guys know when and where she earned her Woman FIDE Master title? Artepnem ( talk) 02:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Has FIDE confirmed what her 3 GM norms were for the purposes of confirming her GM title? People are suggesting that her Ataturk performance was a GM norm, but even if it wasn't her WWC performance was still a GM norm. I think she still broke Humpy Koneru's record either way, but it could be worth getting this right. PatGallacher ( talk) 17:48, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
How do you pronounce the name?-- 84.189.112.118 ( talk) 11:42, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
I think I've completed all the major international tournaments she has competed in. If anybody wants to fill in any omissions then please do. - Artepnem ( talk) 01:27, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
I looked at this page [4] and it lists her early accomplishements. I was going to add these but I have no idea what they are or mean. Lol. Does anybody know their significance? They are mostly domestic titles. The ones I striked out are those that have been mentioned.
I read somewhere I can't remember where that she got another GM norm by reaching the WWCC Final. Is this true or not? Thank you.-- Artepnem ( talk) 16:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
A lot of chess player articles have a notable game/s section. Could one be done here? I suggest Hou's win with black against Gabriel Sargissian at Corus (Group B) on the 25th of January 2008. This win was against her highest then current-rated opponent (2676) -- as opposed, say, to her win over Nigel Short (in the same tournament)then rated 2645 but had a peak rating of 2712 back in 2004.
How does this fit with other female players' record? Obviously Polgar Judit has beaten nearly all the world's best players, but other than JP has any other woman beaten a player who was then rated higher than 2676? -- Artepnem ( talk) 18:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
FIDE have updated their rankings.Her new rating is now 2578 but she is still listed as a WGM.
The GM title probably still has to be officially confirmed. She has now overtaken Xie Jun as no. 3 woman. She is only just short of entering the top 20 juniors list, I don't see anyone born in 1994 on this, only one in 1993. This suggests that she could be the highest-ranked 14-year-old of either sex. PatGallacher ( talk) 19:11, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Slight qualification: Wesley So is no. 11 junior and currently 14, he turns 15 on October 9, there is also another 15-year-old born in 1993. PatGallacher ( talk) 19:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
She was born on February 27. If she got her 3rd norm at the world junior (ended August 15), then she qualified for GM at 14 years, 5 months, 19 days. If she got her 3rd norm at the Women's World Chess Championship 2008 (ended September 17), then it was 14 years, 6 months, 21 days. If it was the day she qualified for the WWC final (September 12), then it was 14 years, 6 months, 16 days. But it cannot be what the the article currently says - 14 years, 6 months, 2 days - because on that day (August 29) she was playing in round 1 of the WWCC. p.s. The 14-6-2 comes from Chessbase [5] but it seems to me that Chessbase is wrong. Peter Ballard ( talk) 23:33, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
So, having won the women's world championship at only 16 this raises the big question: could she go on to compete against the men's world champion? PatGallacher ( talk) 02:25, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
Yes, but eventually? PatGallacher ( talk) 14:46, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
I've edited the entire page and so am removing the copyediting tag. The page is still somewhat unbalanced though, e.g. the 2008 section is a lot more detailed than the 2010 section, but there should be no glaring style errors. Banedon ( talk) 07:52, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
I think we should replace the one "notable game" with one of her impressive wins from the Tradewise Gibraltar Tournament - maybe the win against Le Quang Liem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.190.27.32 ( talk) 11:53, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
The photos in this article are a bit dated, could we get some newer ones? PatGallacher ( talk) 14:56, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
It's been suggested that this is actually her, not Ding Yixin. Comments? [6] PatGallacher ( talk) 10:12, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Could we have a better source on her apparently backing out of the 2014 world championship, a fairly serious development? PatGallacher ( talk) 14:40, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
Anyone want to check my translation of "A l'exception de Judit Polgar, aucune joueuse n'avait gagné un tournoi aussi important"? PatGallacher ( talk) 13:55, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Is there a good reason for having the FIDE rating list table? I would consider a well written prose section about notable rating achievements to be a better use of space than the block of figures there already, not to mention it'd require less maintenance work. Jkmaskell ( talk) 12:56, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
According to the ratings just out for November, she has played zero matches and her rating is static. What about her victory in Corsica, which would surely have boosted her rating quite a bit? Does it take time for these matters to work through the system? PatGallacher ( talk) 16:26, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
"She forfeited her world title by declining to contest it in early 2015"
OMG that would make me so angry if I was her! She had "agreed to contest it" but they changed the date of it to a time when she was already committed to playing in Hawaii. I wouldn't call that "declining to contest it". I'd called it "shamelessly being fucked over by FIDE" or something. She is by far the strongest (active i.e. not-Judit) female player on the planet. And somehow them fiddling with the date so that she couldn't make it, seemed acceptable, and not the total farce that it was.
Mainly, I don't think that shameful episode should be referred to as "declining to contest it". Some reference to FIDE's bastardry should be made. It really was outrageous. 110.20.158.134 ( talk) 22:12, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
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I think she's outgrown those cutesy kawaii type outfits now. MaxBrowne ( talk) 10:09, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
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I am guessing she is the second highest woman ever, and probably by a large margin. We should find a source (if possible) and put that in. Adpete ( talk) 03:32, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
"Hou is the third woman ever to be rated among the world's top 100 players, after Maia Chiburdanidze and Judit Polgár" Surely Vera Menchik was at one time among the top 100 players in the world? She scored tournament wins against a number of very strong players in the 1930s, including Max Euwe. She got crushed in the 1935 Moscow tournament, scoring only 3 draws out of 19 games, but the other players were all probably in the world's top 40. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Longitude2 ( talk • contribs) 16:28, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
I'm afraid that the current Elo rating system was only introduced in 1960, and its predecessor the Harkness system was introduced in 1950. Vera Menchik might have made it into the top 100 in the 1930s, but as she was killed in WW2 we will never know for sure. PatGallacher ( talk) 20:34, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
This section seems to be solely dedicated to her early career. The last date mentioned is 2007. Can we change the section title to Early Career, or add more information to the section that accurately portrays her career beyond 2007? For example, in the results section, there is ample information that can be included as general information for her Career. Owenreid ( talk) 13:28, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
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According to this link, she only has two GM norms so far (first ar Aeroflot, second at World Junior). [1] I'm editing the article, and Chess prodigy article, accordingly. Peter Ballard ( talk) 11:32, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Can I just ask a question - usually when someone gets the GM title people usually say they got it at x years, x months, x days here. Is this when they get the third norm (ie the last day of that tournament) or when the new FIDE rating list comes out or when FIDE officially declares so? thanks. Video*winter ( talk) 19:46, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Susan Polgar also said she is a gm-elect here in her ChessCafe.com column. What does GM-elect mean? That she will definitely become a grandmaster come October '08(??) RybCRLSN ( talk) 14:45, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Guagd just made an update that says that Yifan's title has been ratified. Unfortunately the link provided is dead: http://www.fide.com/component/content/article/1-fide-news/3583--titles-approved-at-the-79th-fide-congress- Laserlight ( talk) 17:57, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Do you guys know when and where she earned her Woman FIDE Master title? Artepnem ( talk) 02:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Has FIDE confirmed what her 3 GM norms were for the purposes of confirming her GM title? People are suggesting that her Ataturk performance was a GM norm, but even if it wasn't her WWC performance was still a GM norm. I think she still broke Humpy Koneru's record either way, but it could be worth getting this right. PatGallacher ( talk) 17:48, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
How do you pronounce the name?-- 84.189.112.118 ( talk) 11:42, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
I think I've completed all the major international tournaments she has competed in. If anybody wants to fill in any omissions then please do. - Artepnem ( talk) 01:27, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
I looked at this page [4] and it lists her early accomplishements. I was going to add these but I have no idea what they are or mean. Lol. Does anybody know their significance? They are mostly domestic titles. The ones I striked out are those that have been mentioned.
I read somewhere I can't remember where that she got another GM norm by reaching the WWCC Final. Is this true or not? Thank you.-- Artepnem ( talk) 16:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
A lot of chess player articles have a notable game/s section. Could one be done here? I suggest Hou's win with black against Gabriel Sargissian at Corus (Group B) on the 25th of January 2008. This win was against her highest then current-rated opponent (2676) -- as opposed, say, to her win over Nigel Short (in the same tournament)then rated 2645 but had a peak rating of 2712 back in 2004.
How does this fit with other female players' record? Obviously Polgar Judit has beaten nearly all the world's best players, but other than JP has any other woman beaten a player who was then rated higher than 2676? -- Artepnem ( talk) 18:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
FIDE have updated their rankings.Her new rating is now 2578 but she is still listed as a WGM.
The GM title probably still has to be officially confirmed. She has now overtaken Xie Jun as no. 3 woman. She is only just short of entering the top 20 juniors list, I don't see anyone born in 1994 on this, only one in 1993. This suggests that she could be the highest-ranked 14-year-old of either sex. PatGallacher ( talk) 19:11, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Slight qualification: Wesley So is no. 11 junior and currently 14, he turns 15 on October 9, there is also another 15-year-old born in 1993. PatGallacher ( talk) 19:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
She was born on February 27. If she got her 3rd norm at the world junior (ended August 15), then she qualified for GM at 14 years, 5 months, 19 days. If she got her 3rd norm at the Women's World Chess Championship 2008 (ended September 17), then it was 14 years, 6 months, 21 days. If it was the day she qualified for the WWC final (September 12), then it was 14 years, 6 months, 16 days. But it cannot be what the the article currently says - 14 years, 6 months, 2 days - because on that day (August 29) she was playing in round 1 of the WWCC. p.s. The 14-6-2 comes from Chessbase [5] but it seems to me that Chessbase is wrong. Peter Ballard ( talk) 23:33, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
So, having won the women's world championship at only 16 this raises the big question: could she go on to compete against the men's world champion? PatGallacher ( talk) 02:25, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
Yes, but eventually? PatGallacher ( talk) 14:46, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
I've edited the entire page and so am removing the copyediting tag. The page is still somewhat unbalanced though, e.g. the 2008 section is a lot more detailed than the 2010 section, but there should be no glaring style errors. Banedon ( talk) 07:52, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
I think we should replace the one "notable game" with one of her impressive wins from the Tradewise Gibraltar Tournament - maybe the win against Le Quang Liem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.190.27.32 ( talk) 11:53, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
The photos in this article are a bit dated, could we get some newer ones? PatGallacher ( talk) 14:56, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
It's been suggested that this is actually her, not Ding Yixin. Comments? [6] PatGallacher ( talk) 10:12, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Could we have a better source on her apparently backing out of the 2014 world championship, a fairly serious development? PatGallacher ( talk) 14:40, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
Anyone want to check my translation of "A l'exception de Judit Polgar, aucune joueuse n'avait gagné un tournoi aussi important"? PatGallacher ( talk) 13:55, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Is there a good reason for having the FIDE rating list table? I would consider a well written prose section about notable rating achievements to be a better use of space than the block of figures there already, not to mention it'd require less maintenance work. Jkmaskell ( talk) 12:56, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
According to the ratings just out for November, she has played zero matches and her rating is static. What about her victory in Corsica, which would surely have boosted her rating quite a bit? Does it take time for these matters to work through the system? PatGallacher ( talk) 16:26, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
"She forfeited her world title by declining to contest it in early 2015"
OMG that would make me so angry if I was her! She had "agreed to contest it" but they changed the date of it to a time when she was already committed to playing in Hawaii. I wouldn't call that "declining to contest it". I'd called it "shamelessly being fucked over by FIDE" or something. She is by far the strongest (active i.e. not-Judit) female player on the planet. And somehow them fiddling with the date so that she couldn't make it, seemed acceptable, and not the total farce that it was.
Mainly, I don't think that shameful episode should be referred to as "declining to contest it". Some reference to FIDE's bastardry should be made. It really was outrageous. 110.20.158.134 ( talk) 22:12, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
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I am guessing she is the second highest woman ever, and probably by a large margin. We should find a source (if possible) and put that in. Adpete ( talk) 03:32, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
"Hou is the third woman ever to be rated among the world's top 100 players, after Maia Chiburdanidze and Judit Polgár" Surely Vera Menchik was at one time among the top 100 players in the world? She scored tournament wins against a number of very strong players in the 1930s, including Max Euwe. She got crushed in the 1935 Moscow tournament, scoring only 3 draws out of 19 games, but the other players were all probably in the world's top 40. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Longitude2 ( talk • contribs) 16:28, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
I'm afraid that the current Elo rating system was only introduced in 1960, and its predecessor the Harkness system was introduced in 1950. Vera Menchik might have made it into the top 100 in the 1930s, but as she was killed in WW2 we will never know for sure. PatGallacher ( talk) 20:34, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
This section seems to be solely dedicated to her early career. The last date mentioned is 2007. Can we change the section title to Early Career, or add more information to the section that accurately portrays her career beyond 2007? For example, in the results section, there is ample information that can be included as general information for her Career. Owenreid ( talk) 13:28, 15 February 2023 (UTC)