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Never th origin of hot dog is in United states. The origin of hot dog is Germany ! -- Susocake ( talk) 00:01, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
That's a problem, then, - as to if you are speaking to the creation of a sausage or the combination of a sausage and split-roll. And finally, the naming of it. 70.160.12.49 ( talk) 21:50, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
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Claiming that sodium, fat and nitrites are linked with health problems is a large enough claim that this needs to be cited or reference some other article or removed. I would think removed would be better. Are we attempting to describe what the ingredients are or is someone trying to shoehorn in some of their own opinions? For example: Sodium, in excessive amounts may be linked to health problems, but it's also linked with necessary bodily functions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.59.11.239 ( talk) 06:04, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
==Etymology
"In the early 20th century, consumption of dog meat in Germany was common." This statement is misleading and prejudiced. Even with the citation of contemporary newspaper articles, which have to be considered biased and sensationalist. It doesn't add anything to the discussion. I would recommend deletion of the sentence — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.89.218.92 ( talk) 13:50, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
""Dog meat has been eaten in every major German crisis since, at least, the time of Frederick the Great, and is commonly referred to as "blockade mutton".[7] In the early 20th century, high meat prices led to widespread consumption of horse and dog meat in Germany.[164][165][166]
In the latter part of World War I, dog meat was being eaten in Saxony by the poorer classes because of famine conditions.[167]
The consumption of dog meat continued in the 1920s.[168][169] In 1937, a meat inspection law targeted against trichinella was introduced for pigs, dogs, boars, foxes, badgers, and other carnivores.[170] Dog meat has been prohibited in Germany since 1986.[171] . Oogles ( talk) 07:26, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
I have not seen those toppings, to whomever added them can you please state your location and the place of the sighted toppings. Bod ( talk) 03:45, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
I've seen peanut butter and bacon hot dogs, doesn't make them exactly common -even though served by a fast food chain (Sonic Drive In) Though, not a constant item on the menu, periodic. Oogles ( talk) 22:34, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
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In fact, two German towns vie to be the original birthplace of the modern hot dog. Frankfurt claims the frankfurter was invented there over 500 years ago, in 1484: eight years before Columbus set sail for America. But the people of Vienna (Wien, in German) say they are the true originators of the “wienerwurst.” Adadwwasefadaw ( talk) 02:07, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
See, for example: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/11/07/a-hot-dog-is-not-a-sandwich/75362898/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.49.66.82 ( talk) 19:00, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
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In the first sentence, there is the additional word "link" in the link to "sausage sandwich":
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Random new guy here. Is the title description just stuck as "A hot dog so sexy" until it reopens for editing? I don't think that's supposed to be in the title description. Is there any way to fix that? EliArcMustardLab ( talk) 23:16, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
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History section:
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Under Canada, Skinner's is listed. You can link to their restaurant which still exists: https://skinnershwy44.com/ It is the oldest hot dog venue in Canada. Glechman ( talk) 17:51, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Glizzy is now being used to refer to hot dogs Foreveralone713 ( talk) 22:07, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
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Add “glizzy” to common terms used to describe hot dogs. Foreveralone713 ( talk) 22:09, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
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Term Glizzy as a hotdog is not a new name yet an old name further restored. many articles describing the term glizzy as a name for a hotdog for years. please add to the alternative names list. GlizzyGuzzler ( talk) 04:21, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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hotdog be change to glizzy Therealmegantheestallion1 ( talk) 17:28, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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Add the word 'Glizzy' to alternative names. Glizzy Nibble92 ( talk) 12:07, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Usage of the word "garnish" as used in the introductory and general description sections is not congruent with the definition of the word or the intended of the function of the described substance.
garnish: a decoration or embellishment for something, especially food.
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topping: a layer of food poured or spread over a base of a different type of food to add flavor. [2]
Listed article examples state "onions, sauerkraut, jalapeños, chili, grated cheese, coleslaw, bacon, and olives". Each of these better fits the latter definition as the primary intent is to add flavor, rather than act of the visual appeal of the food i.e. to act as an ingredient rather than decoration.
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There is no need to pay weird fanservice to a meme in the opening sentence. There has not been substantial debate as to whether a hot dog is a sandwich and to have this immediately be shown in the Google results is absolutely unnecessary. Wikipedia is a source for actual knowledge. 2A02:AA7:4608:1BA0:1:2:9211:DE84 ( talk) 17:34, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
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Joey Chestnut holds the record of 76 hotdogs consumed in 10 minutes, set on July 4th, 2021 at Nathan’s, beating his previous record of 75. 24.78.84.30 ( talk) 06:16, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
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Remove the image labeled "Long hot dog in bun" which is included in the gallery under the "Outside North America" section. The image's source on Flickr states that the image was taken in Latona, Washington, and it shares nothing with the other images in the Gallery other than being a hot dog. DearlyMush ( talk) 19:52, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
Today, hot dogs are commonly referred to as Glizzies! Would love to have this added please. 98.234.116.199 ( talk) 16:01, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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Remove the sentence mentioning the hot dog is considered by some to be a sandwich in the opening of this page. The line feels out of place and it's referencing a meme rather than stating an objective fact relevant to a primer on hot dogs. 2600:1014:B050:16AE:44E7:3886:C9F9:370C ( talk) 18:23, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
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21:02, 7 August 2022 (UTC)Definition according to Oxford: an item of food consisting of two pieces of bread with meat, cheese, or other filling between them, eaten as a light meal. Definition according to Merriam Webster: two or more slices of bread or a split roll having a filling in between. A hotdog is two pieces of bread with meat filled in between. Therefore, a hotdog is a sandwich. Please explain to me how it is not a sandwich. RedPanda1587 ( talk) 22:28, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
In Canada Skinner's Restaurant, in Lockport, Manitoba, is reputed to be Canada's oldest hot dog outlet in continuous operation, founded in 1929 by Jim Skinner Sr. Hot dogs served at Skinner's are European style foot-long (30.5 cm) hot dogs with natural casings, manufactured by Winnipeg Old Country Sausage in Winnipeg, Manitoba.[citation needed]
The Half Moon Drive In, also in Lockport, Manitoba, and located directly across the river from Skinner's, was established in 1938 by Louie Kosowicz and later brother Peter joined in managing the business. The original drive-in consisted of three wooden buildings shaped like semicircles—one was for takeout, one was for dine-in, and the third was a dance hall and later an arcade. The Halfmoon also serves European-style wieners manufactured by Winnipeg Old Country Sausage. One of the most popular hot dog was the "Deluxe" hotdog with 2 wieners. The original Halfmoon closed in the 1980's.
The new Half Moon Drive (which has no association to original Halfmoon) most popular item is the Moon Dog, consisting of a hot dog topped with cheese, bacon, fried onions, pickles and mustard; serving about 2,000 on an average summer weekend day. Dpmarsch ( talk) 19:16, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
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In the lead section: Change "Common garnishes include sauerkraut," to "Common toppings include sauerkraut,"
Garnishes are decorative and toppings are for flavor Elifeye1 ( talk) 23:47, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
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04:17, 15 May 2023 (UTC)Ive never once heard frankfurters be simply called 'franks' is there a reliable souce? 2A00:23C7:5AD0:8F01:638C:63F8:CFC3:81FA ( talk) 06:27, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
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My reason t edit this is I found out on how the hotdog was first invented and I wanted to edit because I want to world to know about it CoolKidgamer1233 ( talk) 19:29, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
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In the intro, please replace the word food with dish.
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Double dog. Drsruli ( talk) 06:38, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
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Never th origin of hot dog is in United states. The origin of hot dog is Germany ! -- Susocake ( talk) 00:01, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
That's a problem, then, - as to if you are speaking to the creation of a sausage or the combination of a sausage and split-roll. And finally, the naming of it. 70.160.12.49 ( talk) 21:50, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
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Claiming that sodium, fat and nitrites are linked with health problems is a large enough claim that this needs to be cited or reference some other article or removed. I would think removed would be better. Are we attempting to describe what the ingredients are or is someone trying to shoehorn in some of their own opinions? For example: Sodium, in excessive amounts may be linked to health problems, but it's also linked with necessary bodily functions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.59.11.239 ( talk) 06:04, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
==Etymology
"In the early 20th century, consumption of dog meat in Germany was common." This statement is misleading and prejudiced. Even with the citation of contemporary newspaper articles, which have to be considered biased and sensationalist. It doesn't add anything to the discussion. I would recommend deletion of the sentence — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.89.218.92 ( talk) 13:50, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
""Dog meat has been eaten in every major German crisis since, at least, the time of Frederick the Great, and is commonly referred to as "blockade mutton".[7] In the early 20th century, high meat prices led to widespread consumption of horse and dog meat in Germany.[164][165][166]
In the latter part of World War I, dog meat was being eaten in Saxony by the poorer classes because of famine conditions.[167]
The consumption of dog meat continued in the 1920s.[168][169] In 1937, a meat inspection law targeted against trichinella was introduced for pigs, dogs, boars, foxes, badgers, and other carnivores.[170] Dog meat has been prohibited in Germany since 1986.[171] . Oogles ( talk) 07:26, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
I have not seen those toppings, to whomever added them can you please state your location and the place of the sighted toppings. Bod ( talk) 03:45, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
I've seen peanut butter and bacon hot dogs, doesn't make them exactly common -even though served by a fast food chain (Sonic Drive In) Though, not a constant item on the menu, periodic. Oogles ( talk) 22:34, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
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In fact, two German towns vie to be the original birthplace of the modern hot dog. Frankfurt claims the frankfurter was invented there over 500 years ago, in 1484: eight years before Columbus set sail for America. But the people of Vienna (Wien, in German) say they are the true originators of the “wienerwurst.” Adadwwasefadaw ( talk) 02:07, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
See, for example: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/11/07/a-hot-dog-is-not-a-sandwich/75362898/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.49.66.82 ( talk) 19:00, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
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In the first sentence, there is the additional word "link" in the link to "sausage sandwich":
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Random new guy here. Is the title description just stuck as "A hot dog so sexy" until it reopens for editing? I don't think that's supposed to be in the title description. Is there any way to fix that? EliArcMustardLab ( talk) 23:16, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
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History section:
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Under Canada, Skinner's is listed. You can link to their restaurant which still exists: https://skinnershwy44.com/ It is the oldest hot dog venue in Canada. Glechman ( talk) 17:51, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Glizzy is now being used to refer to hot dogs Foreveralone713 ( talk) 22:07, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
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Add “glizzy” to common terms used to describe hot dogs. Foreveralone713 ( talk) 22:09, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
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Term Glizzy as a hotdog is not a new name yet an old name further restored. many articles describing the term glizzy as a name for a hotdog for years. please add to the alternative names list. GlizzyGuzzler ( talk) 04:21, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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hotdog be change to glizzy Therealmegantheestallion1 ( talk) 17:28, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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Add the word 'Glizzy' to alternative names. Glizzy Nibble92 ( talk) 12:07, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Usage of the word "garnish" as used in the introductory and general description sections is not congruent with the definition of the word or the intended of the function of the described substance.
garnish: a decoration or embellishment for something, especially food.
[1]
topping: a layer of food poured or spread over a base of a different type of food to add flavor. [2]
Listed article examples state "onions, sauerkraut, jalapeños, chili, grated cheese, coleslaw, bacon, and olives". Each of these better fits the latter definition as the primary intent is to add flavor, rather than act of the visual appeal of the food i.e. to act as an ingredient rather than decoration.
As this is a semi-protected article I am requesting a consensus on this wording change prior to making an official request per the policy guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:88E4:350:997B:395A:559C:8B4E ( talk) 00:32, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
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There is no need to pay weird fanservice to a meme in the opening sentence. There has not been substantial debate as to whether a hot dog is a sandwich and to have this immediately be shown in the Google results is absolutely unnecessary. Wikipedia is a source for actual knowledge. 2A02:AA7:4608:1BA0:1:2:9211:DE84 ( talk) 17:34, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
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Joey Chestnut holds the record of 76 hotdogs consumed in 10 minutes, set on July 4th, 2021 at Nathan’s, beating his previous record of 75. 24.78.84.30 ( talk) 06:16, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
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Remove the image labeled "Long hot dog in bun" which is included in the gallery under the "Outside North America" section. The image's source on Flickr states that the image was taken in Latona, Washington, and it shares nothing with the other images in the Gallery other than being a hot dog. DearlyMush ( talk) 19:52, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
Today, hot dogs are commonly referred to as Glizzies! Would love to have this added please. 98.234.116.199 ( talk) 16:01, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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Remove the sentence mentioning the hot dog is considered by some to be a sandwich in the opening of this page. The line feels out of place and it's referencing a meme rather than stating an objective fact relevant to a primer on hot dogs. 2600:1014:B050:16AE:44E7:3886:C9F9:370C ( talk) 18:23, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
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21:02, 7 August 2022 (UTC)Definition according to Oxford: an item of food consisting of two pieces of bread with meat, cheese, or other filling between them, eaten as a light meal. Definition according to Merriam Webster: two or more slices of bread or a split roll having a filling in between. A hotdog is two pieces of bread with meat filled in between. Therefore, a hotdog is a sandwich. Please explain to me how it is not a sandwich. RedPanda1587 ( talk) 22:28, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
In Canada Skinner's Restaurant, in Lockport, Manitoba, is reputed to be Canada's oldest hot dog outlet in continuous operation, founded in 1929 by Jim Skinner Sr. Hot dogs served at Skinner's are European style foot-long (30.5 cm) hot dogs with natural casings, manufactured by Winnipeg Old Country Sausage in Winnipeg, Manitoba.[citation needed]
The Half Moon Drive In, also in Lockport, Manitoba, and located directly across the river from Skinner's, was established in 1938 by Louie Kosowicz and later brother Peter joined in managing the business. The original drive-in consisted of three wooden buildings shaped like semicircles—one was for takeout, one was for dine-in, and the third was a dance hall and later an arcade. The Halfmoon also serves European-style wieners manufactured by Winnipeg Old Country Sausage. One of the most popular hot dog was the "Deluxe" hotdog with 2 wieners. The original Halfmoon closed in the 1980's.
The new Half Moon Drive (which has no association to original Halfmoon) most popular item is the Moon Dog, consisting of a hot dog topped with cheese, bacon, fried onions, pickles and mustard; serving about 2,000 on an average summer weekend day. Dpmarsch ( talk) 19:16, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
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In the lead section: Change "Common garnishes include sauerkraut," to "Common toppings include sauerkraut,"
Garnishes are decorative and toppings are for flavor Elifeye1 ( talk) 23:47, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
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My reason t edit this is I found out on how the hotdog was first invented and I wanted to edit because I want to world to know about it CoolKidgamer1233 ( talk) 19:29, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
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In the intro, please replace the word food with dish.
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Double dog. Drsruli ( talk) 06:38, 31 December 2023 (UTC)