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Came across this page via the New Pages backlog: I've broken out some of the lead into the 'Format' section, but the remaining introdution section is still a bit meandering - I think someone more familiar with the subject matter should break out a second section (Conception/History/whatever) and re-write the lead to provide a concise summary of the topic. I've bonked a template on there suggesting the same. Thanks! -- Cheers, Alfie. ( Say Hi!) 11:23, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
I broke out a History section, though I'm not super familiar with the overall history it is at least a step in the right direction. - Hockachu ( talk) 15:18, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Gonnym, could you please explain which part of MOS:COLOR was being violated and give some suggestions for how color could be included in the tables that would conform with the guidelines? -- Fyrael ( talk) 03:42, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Ensure that color is not the only method used to convey important information. Especially, do not use colored text or background unless its status is also indicated using another method such as an accessible symbol matched to a legend, or footnote labels. Otherwise, blind users or readers accessing Wikipedia through a printout or device without a color screen will not receive that information.
Colors that are useful for identification and are appropriate, representative, and accessible may be used with discretion and common sense. In general, text color should not be anything other than black or white (excluding the standard colors of hyperlinks), and background colors should contrast the text color enough to make the template easily readable.
The colors were certainly not "the only method used to convey important information" because they were not conveying important information- Which is why I also quoted the second guideline which says
Colors that are useful for identification and are appropriate, representative, and accessible may be used with discretion and common sense.emphasis in original guideline. As you have clearly stated, the colors are meaningless. Which is not only unhelpful for visual impaired readers, but also to almost any reader who isn't as familiar with you are with the specific color scheme used by the producers. That is the definition of a trivial piece of information. -- Gonnym ( talk) 16:58, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Gonnym, while I agree the Notes were having increasingly trivial and unimportant information, I believe that whether the interviewee finished the wings is worth inclusion. In many ways Hot Ones is a game show, [1] [2] and when it comes to game shows, the results are almost always included, from The Bachelorette to Great British Bake Off. I wanted to see what the consensus was in this case. Cerebral726 ( talk) 14:21, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
I'm surprised this has not been commented on more. I preferred the added sections too. I'd agree on a compromise that Gonnym suggested and simply including the incomplete sets in the notes section rather than copying and pasting Success: Yes, Dab? Dab for most entries.-- 51.6.48.21 ( talk) 05:07, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
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Is there any specific reason the non-episodes, which are segments on other shows, are listed as episodes in the season list? Have I missed anything? If these are not episodes, then these should be placed in a specials sections. Almost all list of episodes articles do this like this. Examples: List of Rick and Morty episodes#Webisodes, List of Lost episodes#Specials. -- Gonnym ( talk) 17:06, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Proposing the game show has its own separate page. Also, perhaps having a separate List of Hot Ones episodes page. This page is starting to get crowded. CaffeinAddict ( talk) 04:29, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
I agree, I actually came to find this page to see if the Game Show had its own article. It's really its own entity and deserves a separate page for production and release information. RobotGoggles ( talk) 20:33, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
SauceCastle, what you are doing is called original research and is not accepted on Wikipedia. What we display on this page needs to be supported by sources. If there is no source that says Shaq is on the Wall of Shame, then we cannot decide ourselves that he belongs on there. Also, as far as I remember, each time a guest fails they immediately add them right there in the video. Bottom line is that if the show hasn't declared him on the wall then we won't claim it here. -- Fyrael ( talk) 20:19, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
I have an idea. Why don't we make a section for guests that didn't eat all the wings,.but ate not in the hall of shame. Or maybe make it a subsection of the hall of shame? SauceCastle ( talk) 02:04, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Many sources, none of them are great, but it looks like season 1 is coming to HBO Max on Feb 14, 2021
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/what-s-coming-to-hbo-max-in-february-2021-full-list-of-releases/ar-BB1dbqAB TuffStuffMcG ( talk) 14:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Title: "Bert Kreischer Returns For A Rematch Against Spicy Wings" Original air date is April 23, 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7O05OzGJzg Rocalive ( talk) 20:29, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Why is this section being removed? BELDELTUBCHUGGER ( talk) 05:13, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
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Came across this page via the New Pages backlog: I've broken out some of the lead into the 'Format' section, but the remaining introdution section is still a bit meandering - I think someone more familiar with the subject matter should break out a second section (Conception/History/whatever) and re-write the lead to provide a concise summary of the topic. I've bonked a template on there suggesting the same. Thanks! -- Cheers, Alfie. ( Say Hi!) 11:23, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
I broke out a History section, though I'm not super familiar with the overall history it is at least a step in the right direction. - Hockachu ( talk) 15:18, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Gonnym, could you please explain which part of MOS:COLOR was being violated and give some suggestions for how color could be included in the tables that would conform with the guidelines? -- Fyrael ( talk) 03:42, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Ensure that color is not the only method used to convey important information. Especially, do not use colored text or background unless its status is also indicated using another method such as an accessible symbol matched to a legend, or footnote labels. Otherwise, blind users or readers accessing Wikipedia through a printout or device without a color screen will not receive that information.
Colors that are useful for identification and are appropriate, representative, and accessible may be used with discretion and common sense. In general, text color should not be anything other than black or white (excluding the standard colors of hyperlinks), and background colors should contrast the text color enough to make the template easily readable.
The colors were certainly not "the only method used to convey important information" because they were not conveying important information- Which is why I also quoted the second guideline which says
Colors that are useful for identification and are appropriate, representative, and accessible may be used with discretion and common sense.emphasis in original guideline. As you have clearly stated, the colors are meaningless. Which is not only unhelpful for visual impaired readers, but also to almost any reader who isn't as familiar with you are with the specific color scheme used by the producers. That is the definition of a trivial piece of information. -- Gonnym ( talk) 16:58, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Gonnym, while I agree the Notes were having increasingly trivial and unimportant information, I believe that whether the interviewee finished the wings is worth inclusion. In many ways Hot Ones is a game show, [1] [2] and when it comes to game shows, the results are almost always included, from The Bachelorette to Great British Bake Off. I wanted to see what the consensus was in this case. Cerebral726 ( talk) 14:21, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
I'm surprised this has not been commented on more. I preferred the added sections too. I'd agree on a compromise that Gonnym suggested and simply including the incomplete sets in the notes section rather than copying and pasting Success: Yes, Dab? Dab for most entries.-- 51.6.48.21 ( talk) 05:07, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
References
Is there any specific reason the non-episodes, which are segments on other shows, are listed as episodes in the season list? Have I missed anything? If these are not episodes, then these should be placed in a specials sections. Almost all list of episodes articles do this like this. Examples: List of Rick and Morty episodes#Webisodes, List of Lost episodes#Specials. -- Gonnym ( talk) 17:06, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Proposing the game show has its own separate page. Also, perhaps having a separate List of Hot Ones episodes page. This page is starting to get crowded. CaffeinAddict ( talk) 04:29, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
I agree, I actually came to find this page to see if the Game Show had its own article. It's really its own entity and deserves a separate page for production and release information. RobotGoggles ( talk) 20:33, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
SauceCastle, what you are doing is called original research and is not accepted on Wikipedia. What we display on this page needs to be supported by sources. If there is no source that says Shaq is on the Wall of Shame, then we cannot decide ourselves that he belongs on there. Also, as far as I remember, each time a guest fails they immediately add them right there in the video. Bottom line is that if the show hasn't declared him on the wall then we won't claim it here. -- Fyrael ( talk) 20:19, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
I have an idea. Why don't we make a section for guests that didn't eat all the wings,.but ate not in the hall of shame. Or maybe make it a subsection of the hall of shame? SauceCastle ( talk) 02:04, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Many sources, none of them are great, but it looks like season 1 is coming to HBO Max on Feb 14, 2021
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/what-s-coming-to-hbo-max-in-february-2021-full-list-of-releases/ar-BB1dbqAB TuffStuffMcG ( talk) 14:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Title: "Bert Kreischer Returns For A Rematch Against Spicy Wings" Original air date is April 23, 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7O05OzGJzg Rocalive ( talk) 20:29, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Why is this section being removed? BELDELTUBCHUGGER ( talk) 05:13, 16 June 2024 (UTC)