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How would you place Zero-1 in the digital category? As far as I can remember the decoders were fully analogue-based, as opposed to today's DCC decoders which contain a microcontroller. -- Arpa 21:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
http://www.digitrains.co.uk/DCC.htm "There was not great progress until the late 1970s when a number of sytems began to be developed of which Hornby's Zero 1 was an example along with others such as the Dynatrol system in the US and the Marklin/Motorola format in Europe. All of these systems are forms of Digital Command Control but had the drawback that they were competeing manufacturers sytems incompatable with each other."
May not have been compatible with the NRMA DCC standard (which hadn't been developed then), but it was still digital.
-- 83.104.250.96 10:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Is creating one a good plan? The following articles could go in a Hornby Railways category if it was created:
-- Zabdiel 13:08, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't think Skaledale and Lyddle End satisfy the notability criteria for products so they should be merged. -- Zabdiel 10:01, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 23:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Hornby Trains and Hornby Railways appear to cover the same company in separate articles. As this is the older article, I propose that Hornby Trains is redirected to this page, with any useful unduplicated material from that article merged into this one. Any thoughts? — Tivedshambo ( t/ c) 22:05, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
I agree with EdJogg above, I think that a separate "Hornby Hobbies" article is justified.
The "Hornby" model railway brand started out owned by Meccano Ltd (which already has its own company page), so I think that giving HH its own page too would produce a more consistent and logical structure. HH owns so many other toy brands (including other model railway brands) that already have their own separate wiki pages, and has so much history that interfaces with all those brands, that there should be no problem filling a page with just the main HH company history and crosslinks to all the other relevant wiki pages - it'd be quite a strongly-linked page. But having a single page that attempts to be a "hub" both for a single ongoing product line (which spans different companies' histories) and the current "owner" company (whose story includes so many different brands) seems anomalous, and IMO doesn't really do justice to either. ErkDemon ( talk) 16:13, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
I have tagged File:V.R_B_Class_Diesel_1976a.jpg, which is in use in this article for deletion because it does not have a copyright tag. If a copyright tag is not added within seven days the image will be deleted. -- Chris 00:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
"It is generally accepted amongst railway modellers that Hornby models generally outclass Bachmann models."
Who ever wrote this must be a hornby fan boy, please remove it or I will do it for you. I would say that Bachmann are far superior have you seen the Hornby 66? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.112.140.41 ( talk) 10:29, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
It would be good if the article could mention the Scalextric model car division somewhere appropriate. — Sladen ( talk) 15:51, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
In this (interesting!) BBC programme, James May mentions a few additional snippets about the Hornby Triang evolution in the 50s and 60s. The Re-assembler. 58.153.66.47 ( talk) 17:03, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved L293D ( ☎ • ✎) 14:52, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
Hornby Railways → Hornby (model railway manufacturer) – Hornby dropped the "Railways" from their name in 1999, they are now solely referred to as Hornby (when not directly referring to the company of Hornby Hobbies) by most media outlets and stores. Eldomtom2 ( talk) 14:52, 29 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 19:44, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Calidum 05:54, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Hornby Railways →
Hornby PLC – Hornby Railways has long been replaced as the brand name by simply Hornby. Hornby PLC is the publicly traded company that owns the various companies that are presently part of Hornby. Here is evidence supporting that "Hornby" rather than "Hornby Railways" is the commonly used name:
I am proposing to move the page to "Hornby PLC" rather than just "Hornby" because "Hornby" is already a disambiguation page. Eldomtom2 ( talk) 13:27, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
As Necrothesp says, the problem is that the name 'Hornby' is the name of the model railway brand, and that's mostly what is discussed in this article. But Hornby Hobbies is the listed company name, as seen at their investor site. It's a bit like Facebook/Meta or Google/Alphabet, albeit a somewhat smaller company. There might be an argument that Hornby Hobbies should be a separate article as a PLC, which would separate the wider company that owns Scalextric, Corgi etc from the railway brand - the nominator is correct that "Hornby Railways" isn't actually the name of either the brand or the company though. But as this article is mostly about the model railways, even before it became a PLC, it's not quite right to rename it to that either. I note above that there have been proposals to create a Hornby Hobbies article to separate the company from the brand, perhaps this is the time for that? Bob talk 15:31, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved - No clear consensus for new title plus the disrespect for the previous RM recent move decision suggests this article be move protected for 6 months. Work on the article not the title. Mike Cline ( talk) 11:35, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
Hornby Railways → Hornby Hobbies – Hornby Hobbies is the official name of the company. Hornby Railways was a brand name used by them previously but now long dropped in favour of just "Hornby". Eldomtom2 ( talk) 14:25, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
I must admit however that my primary motivation with these move requests is to stop the article being named Hornby Railways. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 20:55, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Hornby Railways is a British model railways manufacturing company. I think we're all agreed that as a statement of fact this is historically true and presently incorrect. At the very least, the article needs to be somewhat rewritten to reflect the distinction between the name and the company. Mackensen (talk) 00:28, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Is Humbrol (and others)a brand or a subsidiary? S C Cheese ( talk) 16:45, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
I know this has been discussed before, but I still think it is worth saying again that it is ridiculous to title this page "Hornby Railways" as there is no entity with this name any more. Saying that it is a "British owned manufactuer" is also ridiculous, as HOrnby makes its railways in China using contracts. It does not actually make any of its trains. 182.153.95.138 ( talk) 04:01, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
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How would you place Zero-1 in the digital category? As far as I can remember the decoders were fully analogue-based, as opposed to today's DCC decoders which contain a microcontroller. -- Arpa 21:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
http://www.digitrains.co.uk/DCC.htm "There was not great progress until the late 1970s when a number of sytems began to be developed of which Hornby's Zero 1 was an example along with others such as the Dynatrol system in the US and the Marklin/Motorola format in Europe. All of these systems are forms of Digital Command Control but had the drawback that they were competeing manufacturers sytems incompatable with each other."
May not have been compatible with the NRMA DCC standard (which hadn't been developed then), but it was still digital.
-- 83.104.250.96 10:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Is creating one a good plan? The following articles could go in a Hornby Railways category if it was created:
-- Zabdiel 13:08, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't think Skaledale and Lyddle End satisfy the notability criteria for products so they should be merged. -- Zabdiel 10:01, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Image:Hornby logo.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot ( talk) 23:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Hornby Trains and Hornby Railways appear to cover the same company in separate articles. As this is the older article, I propose that Hornby Trains is redirected to this page, with any useful unduplicated material from that article merged into this one. Any thoughts? — Tivedshambo ( t/ c) 22:05, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
I agree with EdJogg above, I think that a separate "Hornby Hobbies" article is justified.
The "Hornby" model railway brand started out owned by Meccano Ltd (which already has its own company page), so I think that giving HH its own page too would produce a more consistent and logical structure. HH owns so many other toy brands (including other model railway brands) that already have their own separate wiki pages, and has so much history that interfaces with all those brands, that there should be no problem filling a page with just the main HH company history and crosslinks to all the other relevant wiki pages - it'd be quite a strongly-linked page. But having a single page that attempts to be a "hub" both for a single ongoing product line (which spans different companies' histories) and the current "owner" company (whose story includes so many different brands) seems anomalous, and IMO doesn't really do justice to either. ErkDemon ( talk) 16:13, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
I have tagged File:V.R_B_Class_Diesel_1976a.jpg, which is in use in this article for deletion because it does not have a copyright tag. If a copyright tag is not added within seven days the image will be deleted. -- Chris 00:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
"It is generally accepted amongst railway modellers that Hornby models generally outclass Bachmann models."
Who ever wrote this must be a hornby fan boy, please remove it or I will do it for you. I would say that Bachmann are far superior have you seen the Hornby 66? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.112.140.41 ( talk) 10:29, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
It would be good if the article could mention the Scalextric model car division somewhere appropriate. — Sladen ( talk) 15:51, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
In this (interesting!) BBC programme, James May mentions a few additional snippets about the Hornby Triang evolution in the 50s and 60s. The Re-assembler. 58.153.66.47 ( talk) 17:03, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved L293D ( ☎ • ✎) 14:52, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
Hornby Railways → Hornby (model railway manufacturer) – Hornby dropped the "Railways" from their name in 1999, they are now solely referred to as Hornby (when not directly referring to the company of Hornby Hobbies) by most media outlets and stores. Eldomtom2 ( talk) 14:52, 29 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 19:44, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Calidum 05:54, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Hornby Railways →
Hornby PLC – Hornby Railways has long been replaced as the brand name by simply Hornby. Hornby PLC is the publicly traded company that owns the various companies that are presently part of Hornby. Here is evidence supporting that "Hornby" rather than "Hornby Railways" is the commonly used name:
I am proposing to move the page to "Hornby PLC" rather than just "Hornby" because "Hornby" is already a disambiguation page. Eldomtom2 ( talk) 13:27, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
As Necrothesp says, the problem is that the name 'Hornby' is the name of the model railway brand, and that's mostly what is discussed in this article. But Hornby Hobbies is the listed company name, as seen at their investor site. It's a bit like Facebook/Meta or Google/Alphabet, albeit a somewhat smaller company. There might be an argument that Hornby Hobbies should be a separate article as a PLC, which would separate the wider company that owns Scalextric, Corgi etc from the railway brand - the nominator is correct that "Hornby Railways" isn't actually the name of either the brand or the company though. But as this article is mostly about the model railways, even before it became a PLC, it's not quite right to rename it to that either. I note above that there have been proposals to create a Hornby Hobbies article to separate the company from the brand, perhaps this is the time for that? Bob talk 15:31, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved - No clear consensus for new title plus the disrespect for the previous RM recent move decision suggests this article be move protected for 6 months. Work on the article not the title. Mike Cline ( talk) 11:35, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
Hornby Railways → Hornby Hobbies – Hornby Hobbies is the official name of the company. Hornby Railways was a brand name used by them previously but now long dropped in favour of just "Hornby". Eldomtom2 ( talk) 14:25, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
I must admit however that my primary motivation with these move requests is to stop the article being named Hornby Railways. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 20:55, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Hornby Railways is a British model railways manufacturing company. I think we're all agreed that as a statement of fact this is historically true and presently incorrect. At the very least, the article needs to be somewhat rewritten to reflect the distinction between the name and the company. Mackensen (talk) 00:28, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Is Humbrol (and others)a brand or a subsidiary? S C Cheese ( talk) 16:45, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
I know this has been discussed before, but I still think it is worth saying again that it is ridiculous to title this page "Hornby Railways" as there is no entity with this name any more. Saying that it is a "British owned manufactuer" is also ridiculous, as HOrnby makes its railways in China using contracts. It does not actually make any of its trains. 182.153.95.138 ( talk) 04:01, 1 January 2024 (UTC)