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"In addition to universal acceptance by residents of Indiana, the term is also the official demonym according to the U.S. Government Publishing Office.[4]" - this sentence is no longer true. That sentence and referenced article refer to the 2016 GPO style manual ( https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-STYLEMANUAL-2016/pdf/GPO-STYLEMANUAL-2016.pdf). There was a new version released in 2020 ( https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-STYLEMANUAL-2000/pdf/GPO-STYLEMANUAL-2000.pdf) and it reverts the Indiana demonym to "Indianian". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.102.68.51 ( talk) 14:33, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Based upon extensive polling it's become clear as a transplant from Colorado I am in fact NOT a "hoosier" even though I've lived in Indiana for two and a half years.
Wikipedia, what is the residency requirement that would in fact allow me to be called a Hoosier or call others a hoosier?
This article is mostly bollocks. "Hoosier" is a Scots word that dates back to at least to the 18th Century, which in today's parlance translates basically into "damned dirty hillbilly." There are parts of the U.S. where this word is still used in its original 18th Century sense and meaning (as the article appears to very briefly note). To true Hoosiers, which is to say to beer-drinking, euchre-playing, smart-aleck contrarians from Indiana, this insult was turned about in much the same manner as the Continental Army turned about the tune " Yankee Doodle." No mystery here. Edeans 02:57, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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Also Hoosier is another name for "Redneck". Some Indiana folks are proud to be a Hoosier and others are not exactly fond of the term.
It seems likely that the "Hoosiers" originated or was taken from Jonathan Swift's imaginary community of "Yahoos" in the well-known and enjoyed Gulliver's Travels, that became universally popular as soon as it was published in 1726. The Yahoos like "Hoosiers" described an uncouth and uncivilized society of people. I'm sort of amazed reading through the Wikipedia page on "Hoosiers" that no one made this association and yet generally believe it was a term used in as a derisive and pejorative manner to speak of people who lived above the Ohio in the general territory of what was then the Northwest or Indiana Territory, which included present day states of Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota. It's easy to see that the "Ya" was dropped by the combinations of early American speakers. My sense is that since the emphasis in pronunciation of "Yahoo" is with "hoo" rather than with the less vocalized "Ya" it stands to reason that "hoo" could be made plural to speak of this American version of no doubt very uncouth folks living in the wilds of the Indiana Territory. I have no source to back this up other than one of the most popular books of the era and on into the 19th century, when the term became well-used throughout the Ohio Valley. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MacMcColly ( talk • contribs) 20:47, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
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It is pretty strange that this long article completely fails to give any information about the earliest documented occurrences of the word "Hoosier," i.e., the several known appearances of the word in 1831 letters and newspapers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.36.7.52 ( talk) 16:44, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
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"In addition to universal acceptance by residents of Indiana, the term is also the official demonym according to the U.S. Government Publishing Office.[4]" - this sentence is no longer true. That sentence and referenced article refer to the 2016 GPO style manual ( https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-STYLEMANUAL-2016/pdf/GPO-STYLEMANUAL-2016.pdf). There was a new version released in 2020 ( https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-STYLEMANUAL-2000/pdf/GPO-STYLEMANUAL-2000.pdf) and it reverts the Indiana demonym to "Indianian". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.102.68.51 ( talk) 14:33, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Based upon extensive polling it's become clear as a transplant from Colorado I am in fact NOT a "hoosier" even though I've lived in Indiana for two and a half years.
Wikipedia, what is the residency requirement that would in fact allow me to be called a Hoosier or call others a hoosier?
This article is mostly bollocks. "Hoosier" is a Scots word that dates back to at least to the 18th Century, which in today's parlance translates basically into "damned dirty hillbilly." There are parts of the U.S. where this word is still used in its original 18th Century sense and meaning (as the article appears to very briefly note). To true Hoosiers, which is to say to beer-drinking, euchre-playing, smart-aleck contrarians from Indiana, this insult was turned about in much the same manner as the Continental Army turned about the tune " Yankee Doodle." No mystery here. Edeans 02:57, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Hoosier daddy? (Who's your daddy?)
Also Hoosier is another name for "Redneck". Some Indiana folks are proud to be a Hoosier and others are not exactly fond of the term.
It seems likely that the "Hoosiers" originated or was taken from Jonathan Swift's imaginary community of "Yahoos" in the well-known and enjoyed Gulliver's Travels, that became universally popular as soon as it was published in 1726. The Yahoos like "Hoosiers" described an uncouth and uncivilized society of people. I'm sort of amazed reading through the Wikipedia page on "Hoosiers" that no one made this association and yet generally believe it was a term used in as a derisive and pejorative manner to speak of people who lived above the Ohio in the general territory of what was then the Northwest or Indiana Territory, which included present day states of Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota. It's easy to see that the "Ya" was dropped by the combinations of early American speakers. My sense is that since the emphasis in pronunciation of "Yahoo" is with "hoo" rather than with the less vocalized "Ya" it stands to reason that "hoo" could be made plural to speak of this American version of no doubt very uncouth folks living in the wilds of the Indiana Territory. I have no source to back this up other than one of the most popular books of the era and on into the 19th century, when the term became well-used throughout the Ohio Valley. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MacMcColly ( talk • contribs) 20:47, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
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It is pretty strange that this long article completely fails to give any information about the earliest documented occurrences of the word "Hoosier," i.e., the several known appearances of the word in 1831 letters and newspapers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.36.7.52 ( talk) 16:44, 16 January 2022 (UTC)