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taking place as to whether to include the long list of cover versions of the song. I believe that such a list should be included, it speaks to the importance of the song, but I do not want to partake in an edit war and we are almost at that point now. I'll propose a Covers section, with the understanding that anything on the list must be referenced and that in most cases naming an album that it is on is sufficient reference. Please fell free to join in this discussion, otherwise it is just me talking to myself (again) and I will proceed to do whatever I want. Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 17:19, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
When a song has renditions (recorded or performed) by more than one artist, discussion of a particular artist's rendition should be included in the song's article (never in a separate article), but only if at least one of the following applies:
- the rendition is discussed by a reliable source on the subject of the song (not on the subject of the rendition),
- the rendition itself meets the notability requirement at WP:NSONGS.
OK, being somewhat new to the Wikipedia editing process, I fail to understand the reasoning that you mentioned, for reverting the information that was added to Hoochie Coochie Man. Regarding the requirement that noted "the rendition itself meets the notability requirement at WP:NSONGS."; I quote from that reference: "Has been independently released as a recording by several notable artists, bands, or groups." I feel that the information that was added met this requirement. Could you please elaborate? I wish to continue adding information to music related articles, but I also want the information to be compliant and useful to someone. Frankzappatwin ( talk) 11:36, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
First of all, thank you for your response. Secondly, I am not intending to be argumentative but I am still not quite understanding the logic. WP:SONGCOVER cross-references the criteria in WP:NSONGS regarding notability. What am I missing here? Is there something I should have added to improve the flow of knowledge? Also, what is meant by "a reliable source on the subject"? Again as before, I am trying to understand what is required to add my extensive background (I have 55,000+ songs from albums, CD's, tapes etc.) to enhance the Wikipedia data base. I want to do it correctly and I feel that I had done so with the recent contribution. Frankzappatwin ( talk) 15:33, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
So that we aren't just batting this around in the abstract, the edit that was undone including the following:
To that list, I would add Jimi Hendrix and British Blues musician Long John Baldry who named his 1964 band Long John Baldry And His Hoochie Coochie Men in honor of this song. HOOCHIE COOCHIE MAN by MUDDY WATERS Song Facts 16:50, 9 May 2015 (UTC) 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 20:06, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
that Long John Baldry's backup band was at one time (at least 1965, when the record I have was released) named the "Hoochie Coochie Men" have a place in the article? Carptrash ( talk) 16:51, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
What makes Hoochie Coochie Man any different than Spoonful? Note the section titled "Recordings by other artists". Wow Carptrash, I can't believe I missed Long John Baldry, since I also have that album from 1964. I mentioned Jimi Hendrix but didn't elaborate since I don't have the facts regarding his recording. Yeah, Carptrash, I guess I just don't understand all of the rules yet. I've only been adding information for about two months now. Frankzappatwin ( talk) 20:01, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
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taking place as to whether to include the long list of cover versions of the song. I believe that such a list should be included, it speaks to the importance of the song, but I do not want to partake in an edit war and we are almost at that point now. I'll propose a Covers section, with the understanding that anything on the list must be referenced and that in most cases naming an album that it is on is sufficient reference. Please fell free to join in this discussion, otherwise it is just me talking to myself (again) and I will proceed to do whatever I want. Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 17:19, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
When a song has renditions (recorded or performed) by more than one artist, discussion of a particular artist's rendition should be included in the song's article (never in a separate article), but only if at least one of the following applies:
- the rendition is discussed by a reliable source on the subject of the song (not on the subject of the rendition),
- the rendition itself meets the notability requirement at WP:NSONGS.
OK, being somewhat new to the Wikipedia editing process, I fail to understand the reasoning that you mentioned, for reverting the information that was added to Hoochie Coochie Man. Regarding the requirement that noted "the rendition itself meets the notability requirement at WP:NSONGS."; I quote from that reference: "Has been independently released as a recording by several notable artists, bands, or groups." I feel that the information that was added met this requirement. Could you please elaborate? I wish to continue adding information to music related articles, but I also want the information to be compliant and useful to someone. Frankzappatwin ( talk) 11:36, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
First of all, thank you for your response. Secondly, I am not intending to be argumentative but I am still not quite understanding the logic. WP:SONGCOVER cross-references the criteria in WP:NSONGS regarding notability. What am I missing here? Is there something I should have added to improve the flow of knowledge? Also, what is meant by "a reliable source on the subject"? Again as before, I am trying to understand what is required to add my extensive background (I have 55,000+ songs from albums, CD's, tapes etc.) to enhance the Wikipedia data base. I want to do it correctly and I feel that I had done so with the recent contribution. Frankzappatwin ( talk) 15:33, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
So that we aren't just batting this around in the abstract, the edit that was undone including the following:
To that list, I would add Jimi Hendrix and British Blues musician Long John Baldry who named his 1964 band Long John Baldry And His Hoochie Coochie Men in honor of this song. HOOCHIE COOCHIE MAN by MUDDY WATERS Song Facts 16:50, 9 May 2015 (UTC) 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 20:06, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
that Long John Baldry's backup band was at one time (at least 1965, when the record I have was released) named the "Hoochie Coochie Men" have a place in the article? Carptrash ( talk) 16:51, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
What makes Hoochie Coochie Man any different than Spoonful? Note the section titled "Recordings by other artists". Wow Carptrash, I can't believe I missed Long John Baldry, since I also have that album from 1964. I mentioned Jimi Hendrix but didn't elaborate since I don't have the facts regarding his recording. Yeah, Carptrash, I guess I just don't understand all of the rules yet. I've only been adding information for about two months now. Frankzappatwin ( talk) 20:01, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
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