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Whoa, I just came in and saw the following: " By the authority of the Special Administrative region of Hong Kong, I David Huckerby of 19 Tin Yan Road do hereby state that I, deposited with Hang Seng bank, the sum of $US 28,000,000.00 (twenty eight million dollars) for safe keeping and custody pending the time for collection by the undermentioned person. " What is that?
The photo is very old. Can someone replace it with a more updated one, representative of the current HK skyline? -- Jiang
Removed:
Image:Hongkong central kowloon.jpg Click here for the full size.
C'on, the skyline's been changed quite a bit. The observatory (or whatever it's called) at Tsim Sha Tsui was still under contruction when this photo was taken. -- Jiang 06:19, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)
We need a fucking map showing bridges and tunnels, to avoid a wrong impression about the connectedness of the islands with the mainland, or we can edit the map. - Patrick 19:34, 12 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I added 9 bridges and tunnels to the CIA map. Can a sysop please remove the protection, then I can remove my map caption which is no longer applicable. - Patrick 21:19, 12 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Who protected the page? CGS 22:07, 12 Sep 2003 (UTC).
The Map of Hong Kong is outdated. Sea border was re-adjusted. HenryLi 14:04, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
We currently have:
Does anyone else think this is somewhat misleading? If you look at the entire territory of Hong Kong (HK Island + New Territories), then yes, there is a lot of open green space. But to a visitor standing in typical locations such as Central, Tsim Sha Tsui, Wan Chai, or Yau Ma Tei, there's not much green to be found. Jpo 15:33, 14 Jan 2004 (UTC)
isnt it true that vast numbers of hong kongers went to vancouver BC just before 1997?
to Hlaw, don't you read SCMP? "Hongkonger" appears every day.
I removed the following text added by anon. "However, the majority of media and democratic parties criticised that the election is a falsification of democracy, in which all 400 legitimate voters for chief executive are selected by the China Government to ensure the Beijing-appointed candidate were elected. During Tung's run for second term in 2002, he was the only one candidate in the election that made him apparently unopposed for election.
Followed by the historically mass protest in July 1, 2002, the Tung's cabinet were immediately dragged in a crisis of governance. Two top officials were resigned and the cabinet was forced to reshuffle. There have been strong voices over the reform in constitution that brings suffrage to Hong Kong citizens, but the possibility for reform has been ruled out by the China Government."
Besides appearing horribly POV and non-encyclopedic, this bears strong resemblance to text which has been repeatedly removed from this page in the past. I know there's some issue with elections in Hong Kong, but to say "majority" I think a single citation should be easy to come by. Clearly needs copyediting by a person more fluent in English, also. I'm not overly motivated to add this info back into the main article, but with citation and copyediting, feel free. -- ABQCat 21:38, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Removed the following:
Unless judged in an absolute sense (under which no economy of this world would justify the name free market economy), government intervention by itself should only be regarded as one of the factors in determining how free an economy is relatively. At least the following reputable source still ranks Hong Kong at the 1st of free market economies - Government intervention has already been taken into account as one of the factors.
Heritage Foundation - Index of Economic Freedom
The following (on the location/history etc of the airport) is not a major economic issue, and the information is already in the relevant articles.
- Hlaw 15:45, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Should we separate it into Official written language and Official spoken language?
It is not appropriate to say that the capital of Hong Kong is "Victoria City". Firstly, Hong Kong is a city of China and does NOT have a capital of its own. Secondly, there is no such place as "Victoria City" in Hong Kong. There is a "victoria Harbour", but not Victoria City.
PMW
There is "Victoria City", but this name is rarely used now. Victoria City refers to the present-day Sai Wan, Sheung Wan, Central and Wan Chai, roughly. Although Hong Kong has no de facto capital, Central (in Victoria City) is actually the centre of HK's administrative and economic activities. The word "capital" in English does not only mean the capital of a nation, like London, Beijing, but also it can refer to the administrative centre of a region, like New York is the capital of the New York State, Guangzhou is the capital of Guangdong province. Thus, it is fair enough to say Victoria City is the de facto capital of HK. (147)
Actually, the capital of
New York State should be
Albany.
Although there is a "Vicotria Park". Also, keep in mind that there are such things as provincial capitals. While HK is just a city it is a very big city that is very distinct from China. - someone else
Seems like Wikipedia is the only source to have recorded it was typhoon with tsunami on September 18, 1906. Many other sources quoted it was a typhoon only.. or with 3 typhoons hitting the colony in 12 days. -- 19:03, December 31, 2004, UTC
The Satellite image here looks really outdated.
But apparently in this case the term 'capital' denotes an administrative centre constitutionally recognised by the regional government of Hong Kong. Admittedly the collectivity of 'Victoria City' does constitute some form of political centre from which policies are delivered to subordinate bodies but this de facto status remains an unwritten arrangement, at least in terms of metropolis-periphery relations; referring to the 'Victoria City' as Hong Kong's 'capital' is utterly incorrect. (Say I find it odd to introduce Sheng Wan as the capital of HK...)
If someone else's logic is adopted, then a priori the City of London is the capital of London. Londoners would laugh at such proposition...
Now about the table below? - wshun 12:42, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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Official languages | Chinese ( Cantonese spoken de facto) and English | ||||
Capital¹ | Area of the old Victoria City² | ||||
Chief Executive | Tung Chee-hwa | ||||
Area - Total - % water |
(Not ranked) 1,102.15 km² 4.6% | ||||
Population - Total |
(Not ranked) 6,803,100 (
July 2003) | ||||
GDP (2003) - Total |
37th,
30th,
14th,
21st
US$199 billion (PPP) | ||||
Establishment - Date |
Handover to the
PRC | ||||
Currency | Hong Kong dollar (HKD) | ||||
Time zone | UTC +8 ( AWST) | ||||
Internet TLD | .hk | ||||
Calling Code | 852 also 01 from Macau | ||||
Flower | Bauhinia | ||||
(1) de facto administrative center, not official capital. (2) The name "Victoria City" is no longer in use. |
Is there anyone that wants a listing of Victoria City as the Capital besides Instandnood? Is this a single user crusade? SchmuckyTheCat 23:18, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Again using the references used previously to declare Victoria the capitol, the 2002 CIA world book lists Victoria in the appendix as the former name of a seaport city in Hong Kong colony. the 2004 world book no longer lists victoria at all in it's appendixes. SchmuckyTheCat 01:01, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Email from HK Government:
Received: from pimx11.scig.gov.hk ([202.128.225.30]) by mc3-f29.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 27 Feb 2005 22:31:44 -0800
As Hong Kong is the "Special Administrative Region" of the People's Republic of China, Hong Kong is not a nation and so there is no capital city for Hong Kong.
SchmuckyTheCat 06:45, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Hey, Huaiwei, mind your language, you are crossing the line. Well, the Hong Kong government answers that there is no capital city for Hong Kong and so this should be official and final. The argument given by the Hong Kong government is stupid, but it is of no importance to our discussion. - wshun 11:55, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
This discussion has been going on for weeks. It is the concensus of everyone but you that that Hong Kong has no capitol city. I am inserting a NPOV sentence in the article that mentions victoria city as a center for government and administration. I will remove the twoversions header and the capitol city statement. Please stop reverting, you are being belligerent and using edit wars and misinterpretations of policies (such as putting twoversions on every page where people disagree with your new edits). If you disagree from here, please make a formal request for dispute resolution. SchmuckyTheCat 18:00, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
m-w online: note the words "formerly" in the hong kong definition. note the word "served" (past tense) in the victoria definition.
AHD, and Columbia enc, are FOR SUCK references. besides being circular to each other. Encarta gets it right. When I read it there they say the same thing I wrote here as teh NPOV addition earlier today. Plus, other sources could be wrong!
SchmuckyTheCat 23:58, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
My proposed version, and its differences with the immediately previous version. http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Hong_Kong&diff=10675074&oldid=10667915 — Insta ntnood 19:11 Mar 1 2005 (UTC)
SchmuckyTheCat added the following: " Many government and administrative operations are located in Central on Hong Kong Island near the historical location of Victoria City, the capital before the adoption of the Basic Law. ". Is there any evidence for saying that the adoption of the Basic Law in 1990 made the City ceased to be the capital? Should it be within rather than near? The limits of the Victoria City is still stated in law. Why is it historical location? The location is still the same. — Insta ntnood 20:25 Mar 3 2005 (UTC)
I am afraid that is not the case. The Basic Law was passed by the the NPC, PRC's parliament in 1990, 7 years before the transfer of sovereignty in 1997. The Basic Law was not in effect in Hong Kong until 1997. District boards were set up in the 1982, and the Sanitary Board transformed into one of the two municipal councils in 1983. Another municipal council was set up in 1985. The legislative council since 1843, and the first elections, though indirect ones, were introduced in 1985. If there were some events that made the City no longer the capital, it shouldn't be as late as 1990, and it wasn't because of the Basic Law.
The government replied you by e-mail that Hong Kong does not have a capital at the time being. But it did not tell when it ceased to be, to support your claims that it was because of the Basic Law. And you failed to provide the information (hyperlink or e-mail address) for other people to verify the e-mail from the government.
The definition of Victoria City is still useful in administration. For instance, land lots are numbered separately by each "demarcation district" (DD), and Victoria City is one of DDs. Land leases are different within the City, on the rest of Hong Kong Island, in Kowloon, New Kowloon and the rest of the New Territories.
Yes some government offices are located outside of the City, but most departments have their head offices within the City. Around the world many departments of different countries (and subnational entities) have their headquarters outside the capital too. The Pentagon is already an example. — Insta ntnood 09:05 Mar 4 2005 (UTC)
I was not using districts to accord city status, but to say that Victoria City is not just simply relic.
The DDs do not correspond to the districts. They are used by the Lands Department to assign lot numbers. The definition of Victoria City is still useful in administrative matters of the government, e.g. lot numbers and duration of land leases.
Hong Kong has no official or legal definition for "city" or "town", and the boundaries of the districts are not drawn according to the natural extent of the cities, towns or villages.
In my opinion a capital does not have to be a separate or independent city within the entity. — Insta ntnood 14:51 Mar 4 2005 (UTC)
SchmuckyTheCat would you mind telling which government department sent you the answer? — Insta ntnood 20:25 Mar 3 2005 (UTC)
For most people in Hong Kong the names on official records are written without the hyphen. — Insta ntnood 17:49 Mar 1 2005 (UTC)
Is there any possible resolution? — Insta ntnood 19:03 Mar 1 2005 (UTC)
No not yet. — Insta ntnood 19:30 Mar 2 2005 (UTC)
You can also use template:Hong Kong infobox.-- Jerryseinfeld 23:37, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Although no law explicitly states which spoken language(s) of Chinese is/are official, both Cantonese and Mandarin (Putonghua) are accepted as the official languages at formal occassions. Intepretor service is provided in English, Cantonese and Mandarin at meetings of the Legislative Council, and at press conferences of the government. — Insta ntnood 02:06 Mar 2 2005 (UTC)
Is English is being phased out? Is English still being used in Education ? or the HK Government?-- Jondel 01:56, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Should it be written as "Cantonese and Mandarin are both de facto official"? — Insta ntnood 14:49, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)
Hong Kong is not a dependent territory. It is a "special" territory. Both categories would be superfluous. Also, category of dependent territories does not seem to list individual territoires but is organized as a list of other nations dependents. This same reasoning applies to Macau and I am pasting this same text there. (added by SchmuckyTheCat at 22:50, Mar 10, 2005)
Tung announced his submission of resignation on Thursday, Mar 10. Yet his resignation is pending to endorsement by the Central People's Government (CPG) of the PRC. Donald Tsang, the Chief Secretary, has not assumed the duty as acting chief executive as a result of the resign. He's assuming the role as acting chief executive because Tung is now in Beijing, the same practice as when the chief executive is on holiday or is out of town. In other words Tung is still the chief executive, until the resignation is endorsed by the CPG. — Insta ntnood 21:08, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | → | Archive 5 |
Whoa, I just came in and saw the following: " By the authority of the Special Administrative region of Hong Kong, I David Huckerby of 19 Tin Yan Road do hereby state that I, deposited with Hang Seng bank, the sum of $US 28,000,000.00 (twenty eight million dollars) for safe keeping and custody pending the time for collection by the undermentioned person. " What is that?
The photo is very old. Can someone replace it with a more updated one, representative of the current HK skyline? -- Jiang
Removed:
Image:Hongkong central kowloon.jpg Click here for the full size.
C'on, the skyline's been changed quite a bit. The observatory (or whatever it's called) at Tsim Sha Tsui was still under contruction when this photo was taken. -- Jiang 06:19, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)
We need a fucking map showing bridges and tunnels, to avoid a wrong impression about the connectedness of the islands with the mainland, or we can edit the map. - Patrick 19:34, 12 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I added 9 bridges and tunnels to the CIA map. Can a sysop please remove the protection, then I can remove my map caption which is no longer applicable. - Patrick 21:19, 12 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Who protected the page? CGS 22:07, 12 Sep 2003 (UTC).
The Map of Hong Kong is outdated. Sea border was re-adjusted. HenryLi 14:04, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
We currently have:
Does anyone else think this is somewhat misleading? If you look at the entire territory of Hong Kong (HK Island + New Territories), then yes, there is a lot of open green space. But to a visitor standing in typical locations such as Central, Tsim Sha Tsui, Wan Chai, or Yau Ma Tei, there's not much green to be found. Jpo 15:33, 14 Jan 2004 (UTC)
isnt it true that vast numbers of hong kongers went to vancouver BC just before 1997?
to Hlaw, don't you read SCMP? "Hongkonger" appears every day.
I removed the following text added by anon. "However, the majority of media and democratic parties criticised that the election is a falsification of democracy, in which all 400 legitimate voters for chief executive are selected by the China Government to ensure the Beijing-appointed candidate were elected. During Tung's run for second term in 2002, he was the only one candidate in the election that made him apparently unopposed for election.
Followed by the historically mass protest in July 1, 2002, the Tung's cabinet were immediately dragged in a crisis of governance. Two top officials were resigned and the cabinet was forced to reshuffle. There have been strong voices over the reform in constitution that brings suffrage to Hong Kong citizens, but the possibility for reform has been ruled out by the China Government."
Besides appearing horribly POV and non-encyclopedic, this bears strong resemblance to text which has been repeatedly removed from this page in the past. I know there's some issue with elections in Hong Kong, but to say "majority" I think a single citation should be easy to come by. Clearly needs copyediting by a person more fluent in English, also. I'm not overly motivated to add this info back into the main article, but with citation and copyediting, feel free. -- ABQCat 21:38, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Removed the following:
Unless judged in an absolute sense (under which no economy of this world would justify the name free market economy), government intervention by itself should only be regarded as one of the factors in determining how free an economy is relatively. At least the following reputable source still ranks Hong Kong at the 1st of free market economies - Government intervention has already been taken into account as one of the factors.
Heritage Foundation - Index of Economic Freedom
The following (on the location/history etc of the airport) is not a major economic issue, and the information is already in the relevant articles.
- Hlaw 15:45, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Should we separate it into Official written language and Official spoken language?
It is not appropriate to say that the capital of Hong Kong is "Victoria City". Firstly, Hong Kong is a city of China and does NOT have a capital of its own. Secondly, there is no such place as "Victoria City" in Hong Kong. There is a "victoria Harbour", but not Victoria City.
PMW
There is "Victoria City", but this name is rarely used now. Victoria City refers to the present-day Sai Wan, Sheung Wan, Central and Wan Chai, roughly. Although Hong Kong has no de facto capital, Central (in Victoria City) is actually the centre of HK's administrative and economic activities. The word "capital" in English does not only mean the capital of a nation, like London, Beijing, but also it can refer to the administrative centre of a region, like New York is the capital of the New York State, Guangzhou is the capital of Guangdong province. Thus, it is fair enough to say Victoria City is the de facto capital of HK. (147)
Actually, the capital of
New York State should be
Albany.
Although there is a "Vicotria Park". Also, keep in mind that there are such things as provincial capitals. While HK is just a city it is a very big city that is very distinct from China. - someone else
Seems like Wikipedia is the only source to have recorded it was typhoon with tsunami on September 18, 1906. Many other sources quoted it was a typhoon only.. or with 3 typhoons hitting the colony in 12 days. -- 19:03, December 31, 2004, UTC
The Satellite image here looks really outdated.
But apparently in this case the term 'capital' denotes an administrative centre constitutionally recognised by the regional government of Hong Kong. Admittedly the collectivity of 'Victoria City' does constitute some form of political centre from which policies are delivered to subordinate bodies but this de facto status remains an unwritten arrangement, at least in terms of metropolis-periphery relations; referring to the 'Victoria City' as Hong Kong's 'capital' is utterly incorrect. (Say I find it odd to introduce Sheng Wan as the capital of HK...)
If someone else's logic is adopted, then a priori the City of London is the capital of London. Londoners would laugh at such proposition...
Now about the table below? - wshun 12:42, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
| |||||
![]() | |||||
Official languages | Chinese ( Cantonese spoken de facto) and English | ||||
Capital¹ | Area of the old Victoria City² | ||||
Chief Executive | Tung Chee-hwa | ||||
Area - Total - % water |
(Not ranked) 1,102.15 km² 4.6% | ||||
Population - Total |
(Not ranked) 6,803,100 (
July 2003) | ||||
GDP (2003) - Total |
37th,
30th,
14th,
21st
US$199 billion (PPP) | ||||
Establishment - Date |
Handover to the
PRC | ||||
Currency | Hong Kong dollar (HKD) | ||||
Time zone | UTC +8 ( AWST) | ||||
Internet TLD | .hk | ||||
Calling Code | 852 also 01 from Macau | ||||
Flower | Bauhinia | ||||
(1) de facto administrative center, not official capital. (2) The name "Victoria City" is no longer in use. |
Is there anyone that wants a listing of Victoria City as the Capital besides Instandnood? Is this a single user crusade? SchmuckyTheCat 23:18, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Again using the references used previously to declare Victoria the capitol, the 2002 CIA world book lists Victoria in the appendix as the former name of a seaport city in Hong Kong colony. the 2004 world book no longer lists victoria at all in it's appendixes. SchmuckyTheCat 01:01, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Email from HK Government:
Received: from pimx11.scig.gov.hk ([202.128.225.30]) by mc3-f29.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 27 Feb 2005 22:31:44 -0800
As Hong Kong is the "Special Administrative Region" of the People's Republic of China, Hong Kong is not a nation and so there is no capital city for Hong Kong.
SchmuckyTheCat 06:45, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Hey, Huaiwei, mind your language, you are crossing the line. Well, the Hong Kong government answers that there is no capital city for Hong Kong and so this should be official and final. The argument given by the Hong Kong government is stupid, but it is of no importance to our discussion. - wshun 11:55, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
This discussion has been going on for weeks. It is the concensus of everyone but you that that Hong Kong has no capitol city. I am inserting a NPOV sentence in the article that mentions victoria city as a center for government and administration. I will remove the twoversions header and the capitol city statement. Please stop reverting, you are being belligerent and using edit wars and misinterpretations of policies (such as putting twoversions on every page where people disagree with your new edits). If you disagree from here, please make a formal request for dispute resolution. SchmuckyTheCat 18:00, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
m-w online: note the words "formerly" in the hong kong definition. note the word "served" (past tense) in the victoria definition.
AHD, and Columbia enc, are FOR SUCK references. besides being circular to each other. Encarta gets it right. When I read it there they say the same thing I wrote here as teh NPOV addition earlier today. Plus, other sources could be wrong!
SchmuckyTheCat 23:58, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
My proposed version, and its differences with the immediately previous version. http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Hong_Kong&diff=10675074&oldid=10667915 — Insta ntnood 19:11 Mar 1 2005 (UTC)
SchmuckyTheCat added the following: " Many government and administrative operations are located in Central on Hong Kong Island near the historical location of Victoria City, the capital before the adoption of the Basic Law. ". Is there any evidence for saying that the adoption of the Basic Law in 1990 made the City ceased to be the capital? Should it be within rather than near? The limits of the Victoria City is still stated in law. Why is it historical location? The location is still the same. — Insta ntnood 20:25 Mar 3 2005 (UTC)
I am afraid that is not the case. The Basic Law was passed by the the NPC, PRC's parliament in 1990, 7 years before the transfer of sovereignty in 1997. The Basic Law was not in effect in Hong Kong until 1997. District boards were set up in the 1982, and the Sanitary Board transformed into one of the two municipal councils in 1983. Another municipal council was set up in 1985. The legislative council since 1843, and the first elections, though indirect ones, were introduced in 1985. If there were some events that made the City no longer the capital, it shouldn't be as late as 1990, and it wasn't because of the Basic Law.
The government replied you by e-mail that Hong Kong does not have a capital at the time being. But it did not tell when it ceased to be, to support your claims that it was because of the Basic Law. And you failed to provide the information (hyperlink or e-mail address) for other people to verify the e-mail from the government.
The definition of Victoria City is still useful in administration. For instance, land lots are numbered separately by each "demarcation district" (DD), and Victoria City is one of DDs. Land leases are different within the City, on the rest of Hong Kong Island, in Kowloon, New Kowloon and the rest of the New Territories.
Yes some government offices are located outside of the City, but most departments have their head offices within the City. Around the world many departments of different countries (and subnational entities) have their headquarters outside the capital too. The Pentagon is already an example. — Insta ntnood 09:05 Mar 4 2005 (UTC)
I was not using districts to accord city status, but to say that Victoria City is not just simply relic.
The DDs do not correspond to the districts. They are used by the Lands Department to assign lot numbers. The definition of Victoria City is still useful in administrative matters of the government, e.g. lot numbers and duration of land leases.
Hong Kong has no official or legal definition for "city" or "town", and the boundaries of the districts are not drawn according to the natural extent of the cities, towns or villages.
In my opinion a capital does not have to be a separate or independent city within the entity. — Insta ntnood 14:51 Mar 4 2005 (UTC)
SchmuckyTheCat would you mind telling which government department sent you the answer? — Insta ntnood 20:25 Mar 3 2005 (UTC)
For most people in Hong Kong the names on official records are written without the hyphen. — Insta ntnood 17:49 Mar 1 2005 (UTC)
Is there any possible resolution? — Insta ntnood 19:03 Mar 1 2005 (UTC)
No not yet. — Insta ntnood 19:30 Mar 2 2005 (UTC)
You can also use template:Hong Kong infobox.-- Jerryseinfeld 23:37, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Although no law explicitly states which spoken language(s) of Chinese is/are official, both Cantonese and Mandarin (Putonghua) are accepted as the official languages at formal occassions. Intepretor service is provided in English, Cantonese and Mandarin at meetings of the Legislative Council, and at press conferences of the government. — Insta ntnood 02:06 Mar 2 2005 (UTC)
Is English is being phased out? Is English still being used in Education ? or the HK Government?-- Jondel 01:56, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Should it be written as "Cantonese and Mandarin are both de facto official"? — Insta ntnood 14:49, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)
Hong Kong is not a dependent territory. It is a "special" territory. Both categories would be superfluous. Also, category of dependent territories does not seem to list individual territoires but is organized as a list of other nations dependents. This same reasoning applies to Macau and I am pasting this same text there. (added by SchmuckyTheCat at 22:50, Mar 10, 2005)
Tung announced his submission of resignation on Thursday, Mar 10. Yet his resignation is pending to endorsement by the Central People's Government (CPG) of the PRC. Donald Tsang, the Chief Secretary, has not assumed the duty as acting chief executive as a result of the resign. He's assuming the role as acting chief executive because Tung is now in Beijing, the same practice as when the chief executive is on holiday or is out of town. In other words Tung is still the chief executive, until the resignation is endorsed by the CPG. — Insta ntnood 21:08, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)