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When I first suggested splitting the Home Rule Act article and creating this one, I suggested that "all the extraneous detail post-1914 should be merged into relevant articles: History of Ireland (1801–1923), Easter Rising, Irish War of Independence, Government of Ireland Act 1920 etc." On reviewing those articles, I can't see that they'd benefit from anything that might be merged from here. Therefore, I've just chopped the lot and put in a short section entitled "Aftermath". No doubt, somebody will think that I've left out something essential. That's fine. It can be added back in as long as it's brief and as long as it's properly referenced. Scolaire ( talk) 13:54, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
On the grounds that: "while the eventual creation of the Free State is of some relevance to the Act that was never implemented, the civil war is not", I wonder what Act is referred to? The non-inclusion/deletion of the line "The 'Irish Civil War' followed", denies the fact that the Civil War was the outcome of the 1914 and its follow-on 1920 Home Rule Act which foresaw the partition of the "Irish Republic", indeed it resulted in an "80 year civil war". The Home Rule crisis did not end in 1914 with WWI (this I am not in agreement with). The HR crisis continued right through to the establishment of two Home Rule Irelands under the latter Act (one of which had an after life up until 1972). I would be in denial by not accepting that partition was the outcome of the prolonged unresolved HR crisis, civil war the outcome of partition and not of the Anglo-Irish Treaty (which was in effect the 1920 Home Rule Act in modified form). Osioni ( talk) 20:58, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
In response to this edit summary, the people of Great Britain most certainly cared. If you read about the Curragh incident, for instance, you will see that senior British Army officers openly defied their own government. The British tend to take that sort of thing quite seriously, as would any nation. In fact, I don't think it would be stretching it to say that the the threat of civil war in 1914 was not confined to the island of Ireland. Scolaire ( talk) 20:09, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
92.11.195.84 ( talk · contribs), please don't manke any edits without consulting other users. This is a collaborative project after all. And please, remember to always show reliable sources to support what you are saying. Capiche? Thanks a lot. Coltsfan ( talk) 20:57, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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When I first suggested splitting the Home Rule Act article and creating this one, I suggested that "all the extraneous detail post-1914 should be merged into relevant articles: History of Ireland (1801–1923), Easter Rising, Irish War of Independence, Government of Ireland Act 1920 etc." On reviewing those articles, I can't see that they'd benefit from anything that might be merged from here. Therefore, I've just chopped the lot and put in a short section entitled "Aftermath". No doubt, somebody will think that I've left out something essential. That's fine. It can be added back in as long as it's brief and as long as it's properly referenced. Scolaire ( talk) 13:54, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
On the grounds that: "while the eventual creation of the Free State is of some relevance to the Act that was never implemented, the civil war is not", I wonder what Act is referred to? The non-inclusion/deletion of the line "The 'Irish Civil War' followed", denies the fact that the Civil War was the outcome of the 1914 and its follow-on 1920 Home Rule Act which foresaw the partition of the "Irish Republic", indeed it resulted in an "80 year civil war". The Home Rule crisis did not end in 1914 with WWI (this I am not in agreement with). The HR crisis continued right through to the establishment of two Home Rule Irelands under the latter Act (one of which had an after life up until 1972). I would be in denial by not accepting that partition was the outcome of the prolonged unresolved HR crisis, civil war the outcome of partition and not of the Anglo-Irish Treaty (which was in effect the 1920 Home Rule Act in modified form). Osioni ( talk) 20:58, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
In response to this edit summary, the people of Great Britain most certainly cared. If you read about the Curragh incident, for instance, you will see that senior British Army officers openly defied their own government. The British tend to take that sort of thing quite seriously, as would any nation. In fact, I don't think it would be stretching it to say that the the threat of civil war in 1914 was not confined to the island of Ireland. Scolaire ( talk) 20:09, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
92.11.195.84 ( talk · contribs), please don't manke any edits without consulting other users. This is a collaborative project after all. And please, remember to always show reliable sources to support what you are saying. Capiche? Thanks a lot. Coltsfan ( talk) 20:57, 7 January 2014 (UTC)