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This is a decent article as far as it goes, but I see a couple ways it could be improved:
I'll work on these areas as time allows, but help is always welcome. Something to think about: how should the Catholic and Orthodox sections be organized; how little or much should they be split? For example, the Orthodox bless holy water at Theophany (January 6) each year, not Easter, and distribute it at that time. Thus it's connected with Jesus' baptism. The bit about the different sorts of holy water (Gregorian etc.) sounds pretty close, but they probably have different names for them at the least. Wesley 05:36, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
As widely known, holy water also is a successful weapon against unholy creatures like vampires or zombies. I think this should be mentioned in the article. -- IN·VINO·VERITAS ( talk) 06:19, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, it looks like a solid citation. I'll need to brush up on my german to investigate further, but it's kind of a weak mention. I'll quote it here because it's not particularly easy to find.
Surely there are some journals studying modern fiction or eastern European folklore that would say more. Though I'm not sure where to look. I applaud your google-fu so far. Spacexplosion ( talk) 04:10, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
I have no problem with this section as such, but do we really need to provide transcripts of dialogue from multiple TV shows? TCC (talk) (contribs) 07:38, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
This section was later changed to "In Fiction" and then deleted at 07:23, 1 May 2010 for lack of sources. Spacexplosion ( talk) 21:20, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
"Aside from other substances that may be added to the water as it is blessed, holy water is indistinguishable from ordinary water[citation needed]." Why does a citation need to be added to that? The chemical make up does not change at all, unless the person blessing the water has particularly bad breath and breathes near it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.18.153.215 ( talk) 23:17, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
I understand that holy water has a different density than normal water. What is the difference? In theory, I would assume that the molecules in holy water would have more energy, and therefore be less dense than normal water... This logic seems sound, assuming that the blessing adds energy. Doesn't this make sense? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 159.178.50.186 ( talk • contribs).
Are the Blessing Propagations (measured in m/s) and Blessing Contents (measured in ppm) for real? I had to laugh out loud reading that section, wondering how one could assign scientific measures to a belief system. Do "Blessions" add to the molecular weight of the Holy Water? Where do Blessions appear on the Periodic Table? ...thanks! Promethh 13:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
In the first paragraph: "... holy water is water which has been passed by a priest..." I don't know enough about the subject to say one way or the other, so I haven't changed it; while the word may be used in the context of "passed quality control", ' passing water' is a wee bit different. -- StarChaser Tyger ( talk) 06:30, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I think a section describing how and when Holy Water came into use would be very helpful. Does anyone have any sources for this? Paulistano ( talk) 03:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)paulistano
Actually, the use of holy water by Christians has its roots in Judaism. cf Numbers 5:17. See the following link; http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/CAHOLYWA.HTM Helensguy1 ( talk) 06:30, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
The article at current time states "holy water is water which has been sanctified by a priest or bishop for the purpose of baptism or for the blessing of persons, places, or things." but I cannot find anywhere of Catholic Doctrine which states it is used for places or things, only persons. How can one validate these claims and should it simply read "holy water is water which has been sanctified by a priest or bishop for the purpose of baptism or for the blessing of persons"? I understand that people do use it in the manner of blessing objects, but my dad argues one must be a Catholic Priest to bless objects and that regular people cannot validly use holy water in this way as it's sole purpose is to bless people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.196.141 ( talk) 00:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I have seen accounts of extraordinary measurements of bacteria in holy water. As it is entirely likely that a small pool of water touched by (sometimes dozens) many people it is believable to me that some urban pools of holy water contain abnormal amounts of harmful bacteria. Anyone else seen evidence of this? WhoIsJohnGalt? ( talk) 05:59, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I think a section on sanitation would be a good idea. A Google Book search turns up reference to bacteria studies in shared holy water fonts going back to the 1800s. Some more recent example sources: Measuring Bacteria, Swine flu fears, Automatic holy water dispenser. Mrmekon ( talk) 19:12, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Surely if he blessed the entire water cycle it would get rid of all evil in the world as all living organisms need water to survive? Unless it's a giant load of make-believe that is... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.17.194 ( talk) 00:02, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure this section is correct, or at least comprehensive. Anglicanism is a very broad church and this section seems mostly about Anglo-Catholic practice. Many Anglican parishes would be quite hostile to the idea of holy water, which is seen as 'superstitious popery' and lumped together with incense, ornate statuary etc. All Anglicans carry out baptism, but there isn't much mention of 'holy' water in most churches. -- 80.176.142.11 ( talk) 12:42, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Holy Water and Its Significance for Catholics by Henry Theiler 1906 isbn : 9780766175532 might be of some help.-- Stone ( talk) 22:09, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
There is a use of holy water in religions other than Christianity. I think this section needs to be added or expanded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NegiSpringfieldof4ch ( talk • contribs) 02:29, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
The Church of Unification is not a christian church as it refers to a new messiah, rearranges texts from the Bible, and considers Jesus the Christ, was not successful in completing its task, which is absolutely contradictory to the christian definition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.243.175.194 ( talk) 13:28, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
In the Roman Catholic Church, he use of holy water to trace the Sign of the Cross --with the right hand and by kneeling- has been abolished after the COVID-19 pandemy. Some dioceses have substituted it with a benediction with aspergillum and holy water, given by the celebrating priest to the assembly of faithfuls at the end of the Holy Mass. When the priest benicts them, any believer trace the Sign of the Cross. In such a way, the holy gesture is made with holy water, according to the traditional liturgy and in compliance with the COVID-19 healthcare norms. This liturgical innovation can be hopefully cited in the WP article.
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Based off beliefs people have said holy water i's made by boiling the hell out of ordinary water 2601:188:C600:D7D0:F8A1:EF3C:B95D:B873 ( talk) 19:37, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
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This is a decent article as far as it goes, but I see a couple ways it could be improved:
I'll work on these areas as time allows, but help is always welcome. Something to think about: how should the Catholic and Orthodox sections be organized; how little or much should they be split? For example, the Orthodox bless holy water at Theophany (January 6) each year, not Easter, and distribute it at that time. Thus it's connected with Jesus' baptism. The bit about the different sorts of holy water (Gregorian etc.) sounds pretty close, but they probably have different names for them at the least. Wesley 05:36, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
As widely known, holy water also is a successful weapon against unholy creatures like vampires or zombies. I think this should be mentioned in the article. -- IN·VINO·VERITAS ( talk) 06:19, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, it looks like a solid citation. I'll need to brush up on my german to investigate further, but it's kind of a weak mention. I'll quote it here because it's not particularly easy to find.
Surely there are some journals studying modern fiction or eastern European folklore that would say more. Though I'm not sure where to look. I applaud your google-fu so far. Spacexplosion ( talk) 04:10, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
I have no problem with this section as such, but do we really need to provide transcripts of dialogue from multiple TV shows? TCC (talk) (contribs) 07:38, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
This section was later changed to "In Fiction" and then deleted at 07:23, 1 May 2010 for lack of sources. Spacexplosion ( talk) 21:20, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
"Aside from other substances that may be added to the water as it is blessed, holy water is indistinguishable from ordinary water[citation needed]." Why does a citation need to be added to that? The chemical make up does not change at all, unless the person blessing the water has particularly bad breath and breathes near it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.18.153.215 ( talk) 23:17, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
I understand that holy water has a different density than normal water. What is the difference? In theory, I would assume that the molecules in holy water would have more energy, and therefore be less dense than normal water... This logic seems sound, assuming that the blessing adds energy. Doesn't this make sense? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 159.178.50.186 ( talk • contribs).
Are the Blessing Propagations (measured in m/s) and Blessing Contents (measured in ppm) for real? I had to laugh out loud reading that section, wondering how one could assign scientific measures to a belief system. Do "Blessions" add to the molecular weight of the Holy Water? Where do Blessions appear on the Periodic Table? ...thanks! Promethh 13:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
In the first paragraph: "... holy water is water which has been passed by a priest..." I don't know enough about the subject to say one way or the other, so I haven't changed it; while the word may be used in the context of "passed quality control", ' passing water' is a wee bit different. -- StarChaser Tyger ( talk) 06:30, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I think a section describing how and when Holy Water came into use would be very helpful. Does anyone have any sources for this? Paulistano ( talk) 03:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)paulistano
Actually, the use of holy water by Christians has its roots in Judaism. cf Numbers 5:17. See the following link; http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/CAHOLYWA.HTM Helensguy1 ( talk) 06:30, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
The article at current time states "holy water is water which has been sanctified by a priest or bishop for the purpose of baptism or for the blessing of persons, places, or things." but I cannot find anywhere of Catholic Doctrine which states it is used for places or things, only persons. How can one validate these claims and should it simply read "holy water is water which has been sanctified by a priest or bishop for the purpose of baptism or for the blessing of persons"? I understand that people do use it in the manner of blessing objects, but my dad argues one must be a Catholic Priest to bless objects and that regular people cannot validly use holy water in this way as it's sole purpose is to bless people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.196.141 ( talk) 00:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I have seen accounts of extraordinary measurements of bacteria in holy water. As it is entirely likely that a small pool of water touched by (sometimes dozens) many people it is believable to me that some urban pools of holy water contain abnormal amounts of harmful bacteria. Anyone else seen evidence of this? WhoIsJohnGalt? ( talk) 05:59, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I think a section on sanitation would be a good idea. A Google Book search turns up reference to bacteria studies in shared holy water fonts going back to the 1800s. Some more recent example sources: Measuring Bacteria, Swine flu fears, Automatic holy water dispenser. Mrmekon ( talk) 19:12, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Surely if he blessed the entire water cycle it would get rid of all evil in the world as all living organisms need water to survive? Unless it's a giant load of make-believe that is... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.17.194 ( talk) 00:02, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure this section is correct, or at least comprehensive. Anglicanism is a very broad church and this section seems mostly about Anglo-Catholic practice. Many Anglican parishes would be quite hostile to the idea of holy water, which is seen as 'superstitious popery' and lumped together with incense, ornate statuary etc. All Anglicans carry out baptism, but there isn't much mention of 'holy' water in most churches. -- 80.176.142.11 ( talk) 12:42, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Holy Water and Its Significance for Catholics by Henry Theiler 1906 isbn : 9780766175532 might be of some help.-- Stone ( talk) 22:09, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
There is a use of holy water in religions other than Christianity. I think this section needs to be added or expanded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NegiSpringfieldof4ch ( talk • contribs) 02:29, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
The Church of Unification is not a christian church as it refers to a new messiah, rearranges texts from the Bible, and considers Jesus the Christ, was not successful in completing its task, which is absolutely contradictory to the christian definition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.243.175.194 ( talk) 13:28, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
In the Roman Catholic Church, he use of holy water to trace the Sign of the Cross --with the right hand and by kneeling- has been abolished after the COVID-19 pandemy. Some dioceses have substituted it with a benediction with aspergillum and holy water, given by the celebrating priest to the assembly of faithfuls at the end of the Holy Mass. When the priest benicts them, any believer trace the Sign of the Cross. In such a way, the holy gesture is made with holy water, according to the traditional liturgy and in compliance with the COVID-19 healthcare norms. This liturgical innovation can be hopefully cited in the WP article.
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Based off beliefs people have said holy water i's made by boiling the hell out of ordinary water 2601:188:C600:D7D0:F8A1:EF3C:B95D:B873 ( talk) 19:37, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
https://holywater-jo.com/ 59.16.7.124 ( talk) 04:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)