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I moved this page to "Holy Wars... the Punishment Due" originally due to WP:CAPS capitalization rules. However, after reading the article more closely, it appears that "The Punishment Due" is acutally the subtitle of this song, as can be seen from this quote from the article:
The song has an unusual structure, shifting at 2:26 after an acoustic bridge by Marty Friedman to a different, slower and heavier section called "The Punishment Due", and returns towards the end back to "Holy Wars", after a solo played by Dave Mustaine. The entire song is generally referred to as simply "Holy Wars".
This differs from other Megadeth titles like Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good! and Peace Sells... but Who's Buying?; since the words after the ellipses begin with coordinating conjunctions, these words are clearly part of the main title. "The Punishment Due" is an exception, as it is separate from the main title.
However, I'm not entirely sure this is justification for a capitalization of the "the", so I decided to get some user input. - Xnux the Echidna 15:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Support. You're absolutely right. The first word of any title or subtitle (including articles) is always capitalized, per WP:CAPS. Let's move it! Wilhelm meis ( talk) 03:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
OK if Mustaine says the song is about Northern Ireland, then why does the song talks about Israel, "Desert land", and a "holy war"? Shouldn't it talk about "Ulster" and "The Troubles" instead? Honestly, even if he actually said this is about Northern Ireland (which I don't doubt he did) it sounds to me like he is just toning down the polemic since the conflict in Northern Ireland nowadays seems to be less of a sensitive subject (at least worldwide) than the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. -- Pinnecco ( talk) 01:44, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
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I moved this page to "Holy Wars... the Punishment Due" originally due to WP:CAPS capitalization rules. However, after reading the article more closely, it appears that "The Punishment Due" is acutally the subtitle of this song, as can be seen from this quote from the article:
The song has an unusual structure, shifting at 2:26 after an acoustic bridge by Marty Friedman to a different, slower and heavier section called "The Punishment Due", and returns towards the end back to "Holy Wars", after a solo played by Dave Mustaine. The entire song is generally referred to as simply "Holy Wars".
This differs from other Megadeth titles like Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good! and Peace Sells... but Who's Buying?; since the words after the ellipses begin with coordinating conjunctions, these words are clearly part of the main title. "The Punishment Due" is an exception, as it is separate from the main title.
However, I'm not entirely sure this is justification for a capitalization of the "the", so I decided to get some user input. - Xnux the Echidna 15:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Support. You're absolutely right. The first word of any title or subtitle (including articles) is always capitalized, per WP:CAPS. Let's move it! Wilhelm meis ( talk) 03:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
OK if Mustaine says the song is about Northern Ireland, then why does the song talks about Israel, "Desert land", and a "holy war"? Shouldn't it talk about "Ulster" and "The Troubles" instead? Honestly, even if he actually said this is about Northern Ireland (which I don't doubt he did) it sounds to me like he is just toning down the polemic since the conflict in Northern Ireland nowadays seems to be less of a sensitive subject (at least worldwide) than the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. -- Pinnecco ( talk) 01:44, 21 April 2009 (UTC)