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I think this article is great. And was really needed. I'm glad it was created. History2007 has done amazing work on this stuff. I also think the name of it is good, but I propose simply altering the order of the wording. I do believe that the words "Holy Spirit" should be first. So I'd like to change the name (move title as it were) to "Holy Spirit (Christian doctrinal variations)". That format would be more consistent with other articles. Also, arguably the main subject (that being "Holy Spirit") should probably be first in the wording. I mean, it's not that major a deal, true, but I think it might be a slight improvement that way. Again, I strongly believe (per the names of all the other articles dealing with "Holy Spirit" on Wikipedia) that the words "Holy Spirit" should be first in the name of article. Regards. Hashem sfarim ( talk) 18:50, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
As I state immediately above,
History2007 has certainly detangled much regarding these related 'Holy Spirit' articles (see
Talk:Holy Spirit#Disambiguation (Updating links in other articles)
). Now there are two related articles specific to Christianity:
Holy Spirit (Christianity) and
Holy Spirit (Christian doctrinal variations). Of those two, '
Holy Spirit (Christianity)' plainly and properly disambiguates from
Holy Spirit (Islam) and
Holy Spirit (Judaism); but as the editor notes, the '
Holy Spirit (Christian doctrinal variations)' title is not ideal. Rather than simply renaming the title, I considered and retired the idea of distinguishing the two articles as
Holy Spirit (Christian Trinitarianism) and
Holy Spirit (Christian nontrinitarianism) (retiring the idea since that disambiguation is vulnerable to objections of
WP:POVFORK).
An alternate disambiguation to consider:
Holy Spirit (Christian tradition) and
Holy Spirit (Christian doctrine). Suggested restructure:
1). Rename this article from Holy Spirit (Christian doctrinal variations) to Holy Spirit (Christian doctrine); rename the other from Holy Spirit (Christianity) to Holy Spirit (Christian tradition).
2). Holy Spirit (Christian tradition) would retain:
3). Holy Spirit (Christian doctrine) would retain Holy Spirit (Christian doctrinal variations) , and would accept certain sections moved from Holy Spirit (Christianity):
-- AuthorityTam ( talk) 08:00, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
I had almost forgotten abut this page. Now I see there are still tags on some sections. Now that it is back on the to do list, I think the way to fix it is:
I think it will probably take 2-3 weeks to get the other denominations to come over and check their sections, then the lead can just summarize those with a sentences or two for each. History2007 ( talk) 07:22, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Holy Spirit (Christian doctrinal variations) → Holy Spirit (Christian denominational variations) – The article discusses variations among "denominations" rather than doctrines, and I had not thought about that when I created it. As above, some of the denominations rely more on the traditions built into their doxology rather than on formal doctrines and the term doctrine would be less applicable than denomination. Hence the requested move. History2007 ( talk) 18:55, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
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I think this article is great. And was really needed. I'm glad it was created. History2007 has done amazing work on this stuff. I also think the name of it is good, but I propose simply altering the order of the wording. I do believe that the words "Holy Spirit" should be first. So I'd like to change the name (move title as it were) to "Holy Spirit (Christian doctrinal variations)". That format would be more consistent with other articles. Also, arguably the main subject (that being "Holy Spirit") should probably be first in the wording. I mean, it's not that major a deal, true, but I think it might be a slight improvement that way. Again, I strongly believe (per the names of all the other articles dealing with "Holy Spirit" on Wikipedia) that the words "Holy Spirit" should be first in the name of article. Regards. Hashem sfarim ( talk) 18:50, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
As I state immediately above,
History2007 has certainly detangled much regarding these related 'Holy Spirit' articles (see
Talk:Holy Spirit#Disambiguation (Updating links in other articles)
). Now there are two related articles specific to Christianity:
Holy Spirit (Christianity) and
Holy Spirit (Christian doctrinal variations). Of those two, '
Holy Spirit (Christianity)' plainly and properly disambiguates from
Holy Spirit (Islam) and
Holy Spirit (Judaism); but as the editor notes, the '
Holy Spirit (Christian doctrinal variations)' title is not ideal. Rather than simply renaming the title, I considered and retired the idea of distinguishing the two articles as
Holy Spirit (Christian Trinitarianism) and
Holy Spirit (Christian nontrinitarianism) (retiring the idea since that disambiguation is vulnerable to objections of
WP:POVFORK).
An alternate disambiguation to consider:
Holy Spirit (Christian tradition) and
Holy Spirit (Christian doctrine). Suggested restructure:
1). Rename this article from Holy Spirit (Christian doctrinal variations) to Holy Spirit (Christian doctrine); rename the other from Holy Spirit (Christianity) to Holy Spirit (Christian tradition).
2). Holy Spirit (Christian tradition) would retain:
3). Holy Spirit (Christian doctrine) would retain Holy Spirit (Christian doctrinal variations) , and would accept certain sections moved from Holy Spirit (Christianity):
-- AuthorityTam ( talk) 08:00, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
I had almost forgotten abut this page. Now I see there are still tags on some sections. Now that it is back on the to do list, I think the way to fix it is:
I think it will probably take 2-3 weeks to get the other denominations to come over and check their sections, then the lead can just summarize those with a sentences or two for each. History2007 ( talk) 07:22, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Holy Spirit (Christian doctrinal variations) → Holy Spirit (Christian denominational variations) – The article discusses variations among "denominations" rather than doctrines, and I had not thought about that when I created it. As above, some of the denominations rely more on the traditions built into their doxology rather than on formal doctrines and the term doctrine would be less applicable than denomination. Hence the requested move. History2007 ( talk) 18:55, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
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