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Are you sure that "kwan-li-so" stands for education? It seems to me that it is quite similar (and therefore maybe a Korean loanword) to the Chinese guanlisuo 管理所, which means "administrative office". Nils
I have inserted more than a few requests for citations. I'll give it a couple of weeks and then all unreferenced text will be removed. Parrot of Doom ( talk) 20:16, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_the_Secret_State It seems most of these weren't uncited but rather lacked in text citations. Is there any objection to reverting to the version before you deleted all that information and fixing the few unsupported qualifiers ('all' in the article vs 'all we could find' in the source)? It seems the deletion was unneeded, is there any wikipedia policy that information should be removed for lack of intext citation when the few refrences provided succinctly support an article of a few paragraphs?-- 24.29.234.88 ( talk) 11:08, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31880905/ns/world_news-asiapacific has more information about this camp. -JasonQ87
oops, I meant http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/feb/01/northkorea
-JasonQ87
The coordinates given in the article are wrong and lead to some installation on mainland China, not North Korea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parantatatam ( talk • contribs) 12:43, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Korean media have reported that the camp was closed in the spring of 2012; however considerable doubt has been cast on that by detailed analysis of satellite photographs, see http://blogs.wsj.com/korearealtime/2012/10/24/new-photos-indicate-camp-22-is-still-open/ As we are not in the news business, it is not necessary that we report blow-by-blow accounts or come to a definitive conclusion pending definite confirmation. User:Fred Bauder Talk 15:19, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved, without prejudice for any new evidence in the future of possible names used most by sources. ( non-admin closure) Apteva ( talk) 18:14, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Camp 22 →
Hoeryong concentration camp – I propose that Camp 22 be moved to Hoeryong concentration camp. I have two reasons. One is to disambiguate Camp 22. There's no knowing whether Camp 22 is the military camp or the school campsite or not. The other is for consistency with others in
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I'm not sure what Wikipedia's policy is on this type of thing (If someone can post something below, that'd be good), but given this article includes some pretty graphic descpitions of some very nasty things, I think it would be good if it included some type of Warning at the start. 123.50.154.0 ( talk) 14:01, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
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The quote has The Mirror (a tabloid) as a reference, and nothing in the article says anything about "government permitted destinations". It suggests that the North Koreans government has something to say in this. I removed this, as this is probably spam/vandalism/trolling.
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Are you sure that "kwan-li-so" stands for education? It seems to me that it is quite similar (and therefore maybe a Korean loanword) to the Chinese guanlisuo 管理所, which means "administrative office". Nils
I have inserted more than a few requests for citations. I'll give it a couple of weeks and then all unreferenced text will be removed. Parrot of Doom ( talk) 20:16, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_the_Secret_State It seems most of these weren't uncited but rather lacked in text citations. Is there any objection to reverting to the version before you deleted all that information and fixing the few unsupported qualifiers ('all' in the article vs 'all we could find' in the source)? It seems the deletion was unneeded, is there any wikipedia policy that information should be removed for lack of intext citation when the few refrences provided succinctly support an article of a few paragraphs?-- 24.29.234.88 ( talk) 11:08, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31880905/ns/world_news-asiapacific has more information about this camp. -JasonQ87
oops, I meant http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/feb/01/northkorea
-JasonQ87
The coordinates given in the article are wrong and lead to some installation on mainland China, not North Korea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parantatatam ( talk • contribs) 12:43, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Korean media have reported that the camp was closed in the spring of 2012; however considerable doubt has been cast on that by detailed analysis of satellite photographs, see http://blogs.wsj.com/korearealtime/2012/10/24/new-photos-indicate-camp-22-is-still-open/ As we are not in the news business, it is not necessary that we report blow-by-blow accounts or come to a definitive conclusion pending definite confirmation. User:Fred Bauder Talk 15:19, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved, without prejudice for any new evidence in the future of possible names used most by sources. ( non-admin closure) Apteva ( talk) 18:14, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Camp 22 →
Hoeryong concentration camp – I propose that Camp 22 be moved to Hoeryong concentration camp. I have two reasons. One is to disambiguate Camp 22. There's no knowing whether Camp 22 is the military camp or the school campsite or not. The other is for consistency with others in
Category:Concentration camps in North Korea.
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I'm not sure what Wikipedia's policy is on this type of thing (If someone can post something below, that'd be good), but given this article includes some pretty graphic descpitions of some very nasty things, I think it would be good if it included some type of Warning at the start. 123.50.154.0 ( talk) 14:01, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
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