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I removed the following bot notice since the section is a transcript of the speech which is quoted [1]. I actually couldn't access the website the bot mentioned, as a spyware-virus warning came up. - OberRanks ( talk) 17:51, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Regarding the copyright question, OberRanks, we need verification that material is public domain. :) We can't reproduce it without being sure of that.
In this case, the material was first published on the internet at ibiblio in September of 1997 ( [2]). They do not attribute it to the NARA, but to the Foreign Broadcast Information Service. This would still make it public domain, fortunately, but, if ibiblio is correct, makes the attribution in our article incorrect. If you do not have a reliable source that confirms the NARA translated this in 1997, we need to cite it and the disagreement from ibiblio. If you don't have a reliable source to confirm this, we need to correct the attribution.
I notice that ibiblio disagrees on the date you have in the article. They think that it occurred on November 8th, not November 9th. Can I ask where you got the 9th? That 8th date is reflected in the several sources I've looked at - this unreliable one, and these books: Jukes, Geoffrey (January 1985). Hitler's Stalingrad Decisions. University of California Press. p. 97. ISBN 978-0-520-05130-0., Walsh, Stephen (2000). Stalingrad: The Infernal Cauldron, 1942-1943. St. Martin's Press. p. 115. ISBN 978-0-312-26943-2.. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:48, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
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I removed the following bot notice since the section is a transcript of the speech which is quoted [1]. I actually couldn't access the website the bot mentioned, as a spyware-virus warning came up. - OberRanks ( talk) 17:51, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Regarding the copyright question, OberRanks, we need verification that material is public domain. :) We can't reproduce it without being sure of that.
In this case, the material was first published on the internet at ibiblio in September of 1997 ( [2]). They do not attribute it to the NARA, but to the Foreign Broadcast Information Service. This would still make it public domain, fortunately, but, if ibiblio is correct, makes the attribution in our article incorrect. If you do not have a reliable source that confirms the NARA translated this in 1997, we need to cite it and the disagreement from ibiblio. If you don't have a reliable source to confirm this, we need to correct the attribution.
I notice that ibiblio disagrees on the date you have in the article. They think that it occurred on November 8th, not November 9th. Can I ask where you got the 9th? That 8th date is reflected in the several sources I've looked at - this unreliable one, and these books: Jukes, Geoffrey (January 1985). Hitler's Stalingrad Decisions. University of California Press. p. 97. ISBN 978-0-520-05130-0., Walsh, Stephen (2000). Stalingrad: The Infernal Cauldron, 1942-1943. St. Martin's Press. p. 115. ISBN 978-0-312-26943-2.. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:48, 5 November 2014 (UTC)