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I'm only an occasional wiki editor generally, but this wikipedia page is particularly un-filled and so I've worked on it a lot over the years. I wish more people did. This new large Peru edit changes the tone and I think there should be a discussion. Peru definitely has a claim for oldest person standing on a wave, but also that culture did not influence modern surfing in the slightest. This gets into a problem of "what is surfing" because is it just standing up? Innumerable people with small boats have ridden waves for millennia, but we don't generally call it surfing. Is this page about surfing with surf boards or anything which catches the power of a wave ever?-- Gatfish ( talk) 03:02, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
The following websites are worth a look:
Maradja 07:37, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Regarding this sentence: "John Ledyard, an American serving under explorer Captain Cook, was the first American to witness surfing in Hawaii in the late 1700s." -- Why are we focusing on the American and the fact that he was American? Isn't the interesting bit that a Captain Cook expedition saw surfing on Hawaii in the 1700s?
Expanding to Eurocentricism Regarding the passage: "The art of surfing...was first discovered by Joseph Banks on the HMS Endeavour during the first voyage of James Cook, during the ship's stay in Tahiti. Surfing was a central part of ancient Polynesian culture and predates European contact." -- Though the second sentence makes it abundantly clear that surfing (by whatever name) existed long before Europeans observed it, I'm bothered by the phrase "...discovered by Joseph Banks...". It was clearly discovered by someone of Polynesian descent. The first known observation by someone of European descent appears to have been done by Joseph banks. I'm not sure how to phrase this artfully, but to note a European has having "discovered" surfing seems incorrect (aside from being Eurocentric). Bdspring ( talk) 07:28, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Surfing began in Hawaii over 1600 years ago by obviously, Hawaiians. There were 2 types of people that surfed. The noblemen and the basic cilvilian. The noblemen had boards that ranged in lengths from 5-6 metres and the average person had a board that was about 3-4 metres. A man named George Freeth was an irish-Hawaiian that travelled to California to introduce surfing. At first people werent to sure about the sport but after awhile people decided to give it a go and thus surfing was introduced and spread like rabbits breeding. George then sat back and became a life guard and became California's hero when he saved seven Japanese fishermen in a storm with nothing more than a bathing suit and a surf board. Carrying them 2 then 2 then 3. George passed out returning to the shore but was welcomed by the locals.
In a passage about the ancient Hawaiians: this art the Hawaiians referred to as surfing. Sounds unlikely. 86.131.89.40 ( talk) 09:31, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
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Complete rewrite with sources required. — Viriditas | Talk 07:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC) |
Last edited at 07:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 18:03, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
The article originally stated that Joseph banks first recorded the act of surfing in 1769 while onboard the Endeavour during the Cooks 3rd voyage.
This is not possible as the Cooks first voyage was between 1768-1771 and the Endeavour was not used during Cooks third voyage, the ships he use were the resolution and the discovery. I checked the source which states it was on his first voyage.
Because of this I have edited the article to say first voyage and added that the sighting happened in Tahiti.
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Hello fellow surfers, I have a few concerns about the accounts of some of the information given, and I think that the page could possibly use a few more bright images to give It that Surfing Beach Scene. We want this article to engage somebody passing by and to make someone be actually interested in the roots of surfing! Partyboysalsa1 ( talk) 22:19, 23 May 2017 (UTC) This was the main quote that I feel like must have some sort of citation of where it came from "The sport was also recorded in print by other European residents and visitors who wrote about and photographed Samoans surfing on planks and single canoe hulls; Samoans referred to surf riding as fa'ase'e or se'egalu. Edward Treager also confirmed Samoan terminology for surfing and surfboards in Samoa. Oral tradition confirms that surfing was also practiced in Tonga, where the late king Taufa'ahau Tupou IV was the foremost Tongan surfer of his time." CITATION NEEDED https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:History_of_surfing&action=edit Partyboysalsa1 ( talk) 22:22, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
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It reads, “Oral tradition confirms that surfing was also practiced in Tonga, where the late king Taufa'ahau Tupou IV was the foremost Tongan surfer of his time.” There is no reference given.
Furthermore, this king was 440 pounds and specially designed chairs had to be made for him to accommodate his weight when he visited other States.. Genetikbliss ( talk) 18:39, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
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I'm only an occasional wiki editor generally, but this wikipedia page is particularly un-filled and so I've worked on it a lot over the years. I wish more people did. This new large Peru edit changes the tone and I think there should be a discussion. Peru definitely has a claim for oldest person standing on a wave, but also that culture did not influence modern surfing in the slightest. This gets into a problem of "what is surfing" because is it just standing up? Innumerable people with small boats have ridden waves for millennia, but we don't generally call it surfing. Is this page about surfing with surf boards or anything which catches the power of a wave ever?-- Gatfish ( talk) 03:02, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
The following websites are worth a look:
Maradja 07:37, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Regarding this sentence: "John Ledyard, an American serving under explorer Captain Cook, was the first American to witness surfing in Hawaii in the late 1700s." -- Why are we focusing on the American and the fact that he was American? Isn't the interesting bit that a Captain Cook expedition saw surfing on Hawaii in the 1700s?
Expanding to Eurocentricism Regarding the passage: "The art of surfing...was first discovered by Joseph Banks on the HMS Endeavour during the first voyage of James Cook, during the ship's stay in Tahiti. Surfing was a central part of ancient Polynesian culture and predates European contact." -- Though the second sentence makes it abundantly clear that surfing (by whatever name) existed long before Europeans observed it, I'm bothered by the phrase "...discovered by Joseph Banks...". It was clearly discovered by someone of Polynesian descent. The first known observation by someone of European descent appears to have been done by Joseph banks. I'm not sure how to phrase this artfully, but to note a European has having "discovered" surfing seems incorrect (aside from being Eurocentric). Bdspring ( talk) 07:28, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Surfing began in Hawaii over 1600 years ago by obviously, Hawaiians. There were 2 types of people that surfed. The noblemen and the basic cilvilian. The noblemen had boards that ranged in lengths from 5-6 metres and the average person had a board that was about 3-4 metres. A man named George Freeth was an irish-Hawaiian that travelled to California to introduce surfing. At first people werent to sure about the sport but after awhile people decided to give it a go and thus surfing was introduced and spread like rabbits breeding. George then sat back and became a life guard and became California's hero when he saved seven Japanese fishermen in a storm with nothing more than a bathing suit and a surf board. Carrying them 2 then 2 then 3. George passed out returning to the shore but was welcomed by the locals.
In a passage about the ancient Hawaiians: this art the Hawaiians referred to as surfing. Sounds unlikely. 86.131.89.40 ( talk) 09:31, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:History of surfing/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Complete rewrite with sources required. — Viriditas | Talk 07:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC) |
Last edited at 07:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 18:03, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
The article originally stated that Joseph banks first recorded the act of surfing in 1769 while onboard the Endeavour during the Cooks 3rd voyage.
This is not possible as the Cooks first voyage was between 1768-1771 and the Endeavour was not used during Cooks third voyage, the ships he use were the resolution and the discovery. I checked the source which states it was on his first voyage.
Because of this I have edited the article to say first voyage and added that the sighting happened in Tahiti.
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It reads, “Oral tradition confirms that surfing was also practiced in Tonga, where the late king Taufa'ahau Tupou IV was the foremost Tongan surfer of his time.” There is no reference given.
Furthermore, this king was 440 pounds and specially designed chairs had to be made for him to accommodate his weight when he visited other States.. Genetikbliss ( talk) 18:39, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 7 February 2023 and 24 March 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Vxu7 ( article contribs). Peer reviewers: Suzannahw25.
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