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This is a high quality article, but I don't think its subject is of sufficient significance to be included in WP:V0.5, which is intended more for must-have articles. I'm moving this article to the held nominations page so that it will be considered for a later release broader in scope. -- bcasterline • talk 05:06, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
This article states saffron is native to southeast Asia; the saffron article states recent biological research shows it is native to Crete, not central Asia as was previously believed. Which is accurate?
What's with the weird looking citations? Harvey100 00:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
This is an excellently written article, and obviously has a very good visual layout as well. However, I wonder why a few things weren't mentioned in its Featured Article candidacy.
1. I imagine that saffron production and use has expanded in the past century, yet this article has little to say beyond the 1800s.
2. There are a significant number of references listed, but the citations are almost all from one source (Willard 2001). Isn't this too much reliance on one book?
Thanks, Joshdboz 02:59, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I was under the impression that Featured Articles were vigorously vetted, as with Palladian architecture. A mailing-list thread full of leads for correcting some of the text here may be followed starting with this post. The November posts continue the dialogue. Triploidy, the Aegean origin, the sterility of C. sativus etc all affect the story.-- Wetman 03:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
After much delay the first 2 saffron flowers opened -FINALLY- yesterday. Anyone else with Crocus sativus in bloom now? Should be many more to follow soon, judging from spring foliage. This seemed like it is a late season for this species.
It's difficult to describe how saffron takes, but I can't relate to the currently description at all. I use lots of saffron, up to 1 g in a meal, but I've never noticed bitterness or metallic notes, and for me the fragrance has no connection with hay. Can anybody think of a better description? Groogle 02:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
As a first time visitor to this article, since it was recommended in 2007 as a top quality article, I was a little confused by the evolution of the second paragraph. After getting confused by the second paragraph, I researched the history to reconcile it's prior quality recommendation with it's current status. There seems to be multiple usages of obscure biological or scientific terms that don't offer links to a definition of those terms or an in-line definition. If an article is going to use terms like "monomorphic" or "aberrant meiosis", I would think a user interested in history should have a capability to learn about those.
The evolution of this section seems to be a series of 2011 revisions by User:Saravask. While I don't question the accuracy or integrity of these edits, I do wonder whether the detailed scientific nature of them aligns with a history page. Maybe there should be another section of this page for genetic history. Alternatively, there could be a page on the evolution of the species that is separate from the history page for saffron.
Since I'm a big believer in fixing problems, rather than putting some flag on them, my thought is that the second paragraph would be more useful as it appeared a decade ago. Thus, the suggestion is to revert to that text by copying from a 2006 version. I suggest that the less scientific version would match better with the purpose of a history page.
Thoughts?
Iowajason ( talk) 06:50, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
This article was agreed to be delisted, but this has not been carried out, GamerPro64. – Finnusertop ( talk ⋅ contribs) 14:14, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
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As this "has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community", I am somewhat hesitant to "be bold", however:
"But some disputants argue that it instead ultimately came from the Arabic word زَعْفَرَان, or za'farān. The latter comes from the adjective أَصْفَر: aṣfar, meaning "yellow"."
Cannot be correct. زَعْفَرَان is from the quadriliteral root ز ع ف ر while the word أَصْفَر is from the triliteral root ص ف ر. Due to the nature of the semitic root system, these cannot be related. I have not made a change as there *is* a citation and this *has* been identified as a high quality article. 74.195.62.181 ( talk) 06:16, 5 January 2013 (UTC) theshiningfool
The article as a whole has many prose and formatting errors that make me question its FA quality with regards to criteria 1a. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Absq124 ( talk • contribs) 06:34, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
The article relies heavily on a single source (Williard 2002) and also cites a predatory journal ( Ghorbani ) ( t · c) buidhe 03:05, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
The article as a whole has many prose and formatting errors that make me question its FA quality with regards to criteria 1a. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Absq124 ( talk • contribs) 06:34, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
The article relies heavily on a single source (Williard 2002) and also cites a predatory journal ( Ghorbani ) ( t · c) buidhe 03:05, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
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This is a high quality article, but I don't think its subject is of sufficient significance to be included in WP:V0.5, which is intended more for must-have articles. I'm moving this article to the held nominations page so that it will be considered for a later release broader in scope. -- bcasterline • talk 05:06, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
This article states saffron is native to southeast Asia; the saffron article states recent biological research shows it is native to Crete, not central Asia as was previously believed. Which is accurate?
What's with the weird looking citations? Harvey100 00:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
This is an excellently written article, and obviously has a very good visual layout as well. However, I wonder why a few things weren't mentioned in its Featured Article candidacy.
1. I imagine that saffron production and use has expanded in the past century, yet this article has little to say beyond the 1800s.
2. There are a significant number of references listed, but the citations are almost all from one source (Willard 2001). Isn't this too much reliance on one book?
Thanks, Joshdboz 02:59, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I was under the impression that Featured Articles were vigorously vetted, as with Palladian architecture. A mailing-list thread full of leads for correcting some of the text here may be followed starting with this post. The November posts continue the dialogue. Triploidy, the Aegean origin, the sterility of C. sativus etc all affect the story.-- Wetman 03:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
After much delay the first 2 saffron flowers opened -FINALLY- yesterday. Anyone else with Crocus sativus in bloom now? Should be many more to follow soon, judging from spring foliage. This seemed like it is a late season for this species.
It's difficult to describe how saffron takes, but I can't relate to the currently description at all. I use lots of saffron, up to 1 g in a meal, but I've never noticed bitterness or metallic notes, and for me the fragrance has no connection with hay. Can anybody think of a better description? Groogle 02:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
As a first time visitor to this article, since it was recommended in 2007 as a top quality article, I was a little confused by the evolution of the second paragraph. After getting confused by the second paragraph, I researched the history to reconcile it's prior quality recommendation with it's current status. There seems to be multiple usages of obscure biological or scientific terms that don't offer links to a definition of those terms or an in-line definition. If an article is going to use terms like "monomorphic" or "aberrant meiosis", I would think a user interested in history should have a capability to learn about those.
The evolution of this section seems to be a series of 2011 revisions by User:Saravask. While I don't question the accuracy or integrity of these edits, I do wonder whether the detailed scientific nature of them aligns with a history page. Maybe there should be another section of this page for genetic history. Alternatively, there could be a page on the evolution of the species that is separate from the history page for saffron.
Since I'm a big believer in fixing problems, rather than putting some flag on them, my thought is that the second paragraph would be more useful as it appeared a decade ago. Thus, the suggestion is to revert to that text by copying from a 2006 version. I suggest that the less scientific version would match better with the purpose of a history page.
Thoughts?
Iowajason ( talk) 06:50, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
This article was agreed to be delisted, but this has not been carried out, GamerPro64. – Finnusertop ( talk ⋅ contribs) 14:14, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
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As this "has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community", I am somewhat hesitant to "be bold", however:
"But some disputants argue that it instead ultimately came from the Arabic word زَعْفَرَان, or za'farān. The latter comes from the adjective أَصْفَر: aṣfar, meaning "yellow"."
Cannot be correct. زَعْفَرَان is from the quadriliteral root ز ع ف ر while the word أَصْفَر is from the triliteral root ص ف ر. Due to the nature of the semitic root system, these cannot be related. I have not made a change as there *is* a citation and this *has* been identified as a high quality article. 74.195.62.181 ( talk) 06:16, 5 January 2013 (UTC) theshiningfool
The article as a whole has many prose and formatting errors that make me question its FA quality with regards to criteria 1a. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Absq124 ( talk • contribs) 06:34, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
The article relies heavily on a single source (Williard 2002) and also cites a predatory journal ( Ghorbani ) ( t · c) buidhe 03:05, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
The article as a whole has many prose and formatting errors that make me question its FA quality with regards to criteria 1a. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Absq124 ( talk • contribs) 06:34, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
The article relies heavily on a single source (Williard 2002) and also cites a predatory journal ( Ghorbani ) ( t · c) buidhe 03:05, 23 November 2020 (UTC)