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I think this page could do to go into more depth on the transportation reforms that Wilhelm II enacted before the World War erupted. As I recall, before his reign there were two practically separate railway systems for East prussia and Germany Proper, and the railways were a confusing maze of throughways and loops. With his appointed ministers and the railway comittees, he began to try and reform and modernize them by consolidating as many rail lines as possible and beginning construction on a series of canals to lighten the load on the system, but the war began before it could be finished. Can someone who has some more "legitimate" sources find them and figure out how to implement them?
I've been reading his memoirs, which are a fantastic read, by the way, and there are a lot of things he did that havent been reported on in any wiki pages, perhaps because they were simply many many minor changes, but he did enact plenty of reforms aimed at trying to improve Germany's already powerful and fast-growing industry and commerce, and also made a lot of progress in trying to push aside the bureaucracy and efficiently improve as many things as possible, the new post offices built in nearly every city during his reign are a good example of this. It seems most of the time people are trying to make him out as an incompetent or a devilish warmonger instead of realizing he was as fine a ruler as any, definitely more capable than Nicholas II of Russia, and more ableminded and bodied than the ailing Franz Joseph, no disrespect meant. Overall, I just think there is more to be said about a lot of parts of imperial Germany's (unfortunately) short but very bright and explosive history, and the rail systems are an important part of it. 207.5.159.199 ( talk) 03:38, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Truth is: a "K.P.E.V." has never existed, is only a fake created by railway modelling fans in the 1970ies in Germany. Only a few railways in Prussia have (1848 and 1871) originally been built by the state, i.e. with its money. The Preußische Staatseisenbahnen (see de.Wikipedia) resembled themselves merely of numerous smaller and larger railway enterprises which mostly since 1880 was bought by the Prussian state. Nevertheless they operated furthermore on their own and was only administrated by the Ministry of public performances ("Ministerium für öffentliche Arbeiten").
The "Preußische und Großherzoglich Hessische Staatseisenbahn" was later in 1897 confounded.
Greetings from Germany inside!
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It looks as though the epoch based section headings are not quite right - being terms invented for model railways, see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains#redirects_History_of_rail_transport_in_germany for some details.
Specifically, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoche_(Modelleisenbahn) shows the true origins of the "epoche" term.
As such I think the article needs re-formatting. Please comment etc below. FengRail ( talk) 13:04, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
"By 1880, Germany had 9,400 locomotives pulling 43,000 passengers and 30,000 tons of freight, and pulled ahead of France" - This means that each locomotive pulls less than 5 passengers and 3 tons of freight. Is this per day or per year? In any case the figures seem wrong.-- Nis Hoff ( talk) 07:27, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Bermicourt reverted an edit which changed "connexions" to "connections". Both are technically correct in British English, but connections is more commonly used and connexions is generally advised against, e.g. here, and here. Connexion is not used in American English. Furthermore, using connexions rather than connections doesn't seem to add anything to the article. Absolutelypuremilk ( talk) 18:04, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
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I think this page could do to go into more depth on the transportation reforms that Wilhelm II enacted before the World War erupted. As I recall, before his reign there were two practically separate railway systems for East prussia and Germany Proper, and the railways were a confusing maze of throughways and loops. With his appointed ministers and the railway comittees, he began to try and reform and modernize them by consolidating as many rail lines as possible and beginning construction on a series of canals to lighten the load on the system, but the war began before it could be finished. Can someone who has some more "legitimate" sources find them and figure out how to implement them?
I've been reading his memoirs, which are a fantastic read, by the way, and there are a lot of things he did that havent been reported on in any wiki pages, perhaps because they were simply many many minor changes, but he did enact plenty of reforms aimed at trying to improve Germany's already powerful and fast-growing industry and commerce, and also made a lot of progress in trying to push aside the bureaucracy and efficiently improve as many things as possible, the new post offices built in nearly every city during his reign are a good example of this. It seems most of the time people are trying to make him out as an incompetent or a devilish warmonger instead of realizing he was as fine a ruler as any, definitely more capable than Nicholas II of Russia, and more ableminded and bodied than the ailing Franz Joseph, no disrespect meant. Overall, I just think there is more to be said about a lot of parts of imperial Germany's (unfortunately) short but very bright and explosive history, and the rail systems are an important part of it. 207.5.159.199 ( talk) 03:38, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Truth is: a "K.P.E.V." has never existed, is only a fake created by railway modelling fans in the 1970ies in Germany. Only a few railways in Prussia have (1848 and 1871) originally been built by the state, i.e. with its money. The Preußische Staatseisenbahnen (see de.Wikipedia) resembled themselves merely of numerous smaller and larger railway enterprises which mostly since 1880 was bought by the Prussian state. Nevertheless they operated furthermore on their own and was only administrated by the Ministry of public performances ("Ministerium für öffentliche Arbeiten").
The "Preußische und Großherzoglich Hessische Staatseisenbahn" was later in 1897 confounded.
Greetings from Germany inside!
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This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --08:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
It looks as though the epoch based section headings are not quite right - being terms invented for model railways, see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains#redirects_History_of_rail_transport_in_germany for some details.
Specifically, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoche_(Modelleisenbahn) shows the true origins of the "epoche" term.
As such I think the article needs re-formatting. Please comment etc below. FengRail ( talk) 13:04, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
"By 1880, Germany had 9,400 locomotives pulling 43,000 passengers and 30,000 tons of freight, and pulled ahead of France" - This means that each locomotive pulls less than 5 passengers and 3 tons of freight. Is this per day or per year? In any case the figures seem wrong.-- Nis Hoff ( talk) 07:27, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Bermicourt reverted an edit which changed "connexions" to "connections". Both are technically correct in British English, but connections is more commonly used and connexions is generally advised against, e.g. here, and here. Connexion is not used in American English. Furthermore, using connexions rather than connections doesn't seem to add anything to the article. Absolutelypuremilk ( talk) 18:04, 7 August 2016 (UTC)