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Hello. I looked at this to see what it says about Jim Laker, whose article I've just nominated at WP:GAN. He isn't mentioned and, apart from Basil D'Oliveira in the context of apartheid, neither is any other post-war player, not even Gary Sobers. There is only the briefest mention of Don Bradman, a couple of sentences about WG Grace and next to nothing about anyone else. The article is supposed to be a history of cricket. History is made by people and cricket is played by people. The article needs to adjust its focus.
I was interested to see a section called "Historical sources", which includes the sort of list I might expect to see in a history book, but not in an article like this. There is a Bibliography of cricket so I don't see the need for an additional list of books here, especially one with a scope that has been deliberately limited. The whole section reads as if someone has mounted a WP:SOAPBOX. It isn't about historical sources at all – it is an argument about match status prior to an official designation in 1894! I really don't think it belongs here but I'll wait and see if anyone will justify its inclusion.
Perhaps the best way to handle the history of a sport like cricket is to reduce this article to a brief introduction of several main articles that scope particular periods or countries. You already have History of cricket to 1725 and History of cricket (1726–1771), but then it seems to stop, so more articles are needed. You could see how WP:FOOTY have handled this with medieval football, English public school football games and then, from the 1850s, History of association football before diversifying into specialist topics, which are largely by country.
Thanks. All the best and stay safe. No Great Shaker ( talk) 10:17, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
The historical sources section has been deleted although some of the factual points seemed useful and I've moved those into the earlier narrative. The article will need a lot of hard work to get anywhere near our GA standard. I think there is probably a lot of WP:OR and it really needs someone with access to several high quality book sources to take a hand and sort it all out. It definitely needs greater focus on what people accomplished, rather than just chucking a few well known names in as an afterthought – for example, a previous editor apparently decided that Don Bradman should be mentioned and tucked him in at the end of a sentence about the bodyline controversy. Never mind any of Bradman's remarkable achievements. Although History of association football has sourcing issues and isn't up to GA standard either, it is streets ahead of this and could provide some guidance on how to write a historical summary of a global sport. No Great Shaker ( talk) 10:04, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Most of the portions of this article do not contain any type of reliable source or reference. A template regarding it is already placed in the top of the article. If the uncited parts are not cited immediately, then they will be removed. I am creating this section to draw the attention of the editors who regularly edit this article. Thank you. Michri michri ( talk) 08:16, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
JH ( talk page), honestly speaking that I did not open the talk page before removing a massive portion yesterday. Had I seen it before, then I would not have made such edits. I'm really sorry. Anyway, my intention was to draw the attention of some veteran editors who are capable of handling this article. I think I have succeeded in doing so. When the experienced editors like Blue Square Thing and Lugnuts look into the matter, then a novice like me perhaps has nothing to do. Ny the way, I agree that parts of this article are filled with some unnecessary and superfluous stuff, which need to be briefed. Thanks -- Michri michri ( talk) 08:22, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Who developed cricket 45.121.2.90 ( talk) 14:38, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
where is first cricket game started 2409:40E7:B:3426:8000:0:0:0 ( talk) 07:03, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Iceland's national cricket team claims Egill Skallagrímsson invented cricket in 911, see https://www.krikket.is/history. I'm not exactly sure it is a strong claim but as a national cricket team, it should merit a mention at the very least. Ufoolme ( talk) 10:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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Hello. I looked at this to see what it says about Jim Laker, whose article I've just nominated at WP:GAN. He isn't mentioned and, apart from Basil D'Oliveira in the context of apartheid, neither is any other post-war player, not even Gary Sobers. There is only the briefest mention of Don Bradman, a couple of sentences about WG Grace and next to nothing about anyone else. The article is supposed to be a history of cricket. History is made by people and cricket is played by people. The article needs to adjust its focus.
I was interested to see a section called "Historical sources", which includes the sort of list I might expect to see in a history book, but not in an article like this. There is a Bibliography of cricket so I don't see the need for an additional list of books here, especially one with a scope that has been deliberately limited. The whole section reads as if someone has mounted a WP:SOAPBOX. It isn't about historical sources at all – it is an argument about match status prior to an official designation in 1894! I really don't think it belongs here but I'll wait and see if anyone will justify its inclusion.
Perhaps the best way to handle the history of a sport like cricket is to reduce this article to a brief introduction of several main articles that scope particular periods or countries. You already have History of cricket to 1725 and History of cricket (1726–1771), but then it seems to stop, so more articles are needed. You could see how WP:FOOTY have handled this with medieval football, English public school football games and then, from the 1850s, History of association football before diversifying into specialist topics, which are largely by country.
Thanks. All the best and stay safe. No Great Shaker ( talk) 10:17, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
The historical sources section has been deleted although some of the factual points seemed useful and I've moved those into the earlier narrative. The article will need a lot of hard work to get anywhere near our GA standard. I think there is probably a lot of WP:OR and it really needs someone with access to several high quality book sources to take a hand and sort it all out. It definitely needs greater focus on what people accomplished, rather than just chucking a few well known names in as an afterthought – for example, a previous editor apparently decided that Don Bradman should be mentioned and tucked him in at the end of a sentence about the bodyline controversy. Never mind any of Bradman's remarkable achievements. Although History of association football has sourcing issues and isn't up to GA standard either, it is streets ahead of this and could provide some guidance on how to write a historical summary of a global sport. No Great Shaker ( talk) 10:04, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Most of the portions of this article do not contain any type of reliable source or reference. A template regarding it is already placed in the top of the article. If the uncited parts are not cited immediately, then they will be removed. I am creating this section to draw the attention of the editors who regularly edit this article. Thank you. Michri michri ( talk) 08:16, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
JH ( talk page), honestly speaking that I did not open the talk page before removing a massive portion yesterday. Had I seen it before, then I would not have made such edits. I'm really sorry. Anyway, my intention was to draw the attention of some veteran editors who are capable of handling this article. I think I have succeeded in doing so. When the experienced editors like Blue Square Thing and Lugnuts look into the matter, then a novice like me perhaps has nothing to do. Ny the way, I agree that parts of this article are filled with some unnecessary and superfluous stuff, which need to be briefed. Thanks -- Michri michri ( talk) 08:22, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Who developed cricket 45.121.2.90 ( talk) 14:38, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
where is first cricket game started 2409:40E7:B:3426:8000:0:0:0 ( talk) 07:03, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Iceland's national cricket team claims Egill Skallagrímsson invented cricket in 911, see https://www.krikket.is/history. I'm not exactly sure it is a strong claim but as a national cricket team, it should merit a mention at the very least. Ufoolme ( talk) 10:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)