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This article was nominated for deletion on 2 January, 2007. A record of the discussion can be found here. The consensus was that the article should be kept, with a strong contingent supporting renaming. Tom e r talk 19:42, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
I strongly believe this article should be deleted. 87.69.77.76 20:32, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
So if five Jews were converted to Zoroastrianism should we open article about that? It is ridicules.This article don't stand it the term of wikipedia even.
Suggestions? crz crztalk 19:52, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
You know I realise there's a lot more similarity between Judaism and Islam than Judaism and Christianity - firstly, it's to do with the concept of God. As we know, Jews and Muslims believe in a pure monotheistic form of god - the Oneness of God. Yet, Christians, on the other hand (and I don't mean to be discriminatory but just stating the truth) state that God is Three in One. In other words, worshipping Jesus as the Son of God since that he represents God along with the Father and the Holy Spirit. To me it doesn't seem like the Oneness of God. Secondly, Halal and Kosher. Though I cannot find proof that the Jews ask God for the blessing of the slaughtering of animals for eating, I notice that both have similar procedures using sharp knives and that only live animals can be slaugthered for eating - since that eating dead animals is not considered healthy. I know for sure that both religions practise male circumcision widely. Anything else that I'm missing? -- Fantastic4boy 03:35, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
This article should be changes to contain a nore neutral point of view...right now it seems to present all jews who convert to islam as forced. There is no evidence to support this.
All this article look like Islamic propaganda. I don't believe there are place in wikipedia for such thing. I am also wondering if there are article like conversation from Islam to Christianity?There is NO. I suggest to erase this article. It was created as propaganda and it is of no value except for some people that try to do propaganda. Ir it is not erased I also suggest to create article about conversation from Islam to Christianity.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Oren.tal ( talk • contribs)
I'm unsure how much the article has changed since the point which the above claim of "propaganda" was made, but in any case, it doesn't seem to be so much of a problem anymore. However, the existence of this page is problematic and unnecessary; the topic is not so unique as to warrant an article, and in that sense I wonder if propaganda-related motives come into play in this respect, at least (if they do at all). There is absolutely no reason why this tiny article shouldn't be merged into Judaism and Islam, or some even more relevant page. Perhaps I'll propose an official merge to that effect.-- C.Logan ( talk) 12:05, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I see something problematic with the existence of this article as-is. It seems apparent to me that this is a rather clunky topic that doesn't really have a strong foundation. It's not so much that the topic isn't based in reality, but the existence of the page seems rather contrived, when it would be more appropriately placed as a section at the page Judaism and Islam.
This becomes especially apparent when one notes the fact that this entire article is nothing more than a section with an introductory sentence and a paragraph of unsourced information which really doesn't say much of any importance (and is poor in comparison to the thorough elaboration on the issue and the context provided by the proposed destination article). Beyond this lone, meaty section, it has a short and rather trivial section on modern conversions which does little else but re-list names found on actual convert lists.
The relevant information within this article would be entirely appropriate within this section, and would elucidate on a topic which seems somewhat neglected there. Again, I don't believe there is any reason that this contrived topic deserves an anemic article when it has more relevance in use within an article dealing with the relation between the two religions. In summary, I propose that the information within History of conversion of Jews to Islam be merged into the "Historical interaction" section of Judaism and Islam.-- C.Logan ( talk) 12:26, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
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This article was nominated for deletion on September 19, 2007. The result of the discussion was keep. |
This article was nominated for deletion on 2 January, 2007. A record of the discussion can be found here. The consensus was that the article should be kept, with a strong contingent supporting renaming. Tom e r talk 19:42, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
I strongly believe this article should be deleted. 87.69.77.76 20:32, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
So if five Jews were converted to Zoroastrianism should we open article about that? It is ridicules.This article don't stand it the term of wikipedia even.
Suggestions? crz crztalk 19:52, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
You know I realise there's a lot more similarity between Judaism and Islam than Judaism and Christianity - firstly, it's to do with the concept of God. As we know, Jews and Muslims believe in a pure monotheistic form of god - the Oneness of God. Yet, Christians, on the other hand (and I don't mean to be discriminatory but just stating the truth) state that God is Three in One. In other words, worshipping Jesus as the Son of God since that he represents God along with the Father and the Holy Spirit. To me it doesn't seem like the Oneness of God. Secondly, Halal and Kosher. Though I cannot find proof that the Jews ask God for the blessing of the slaughtering of animals for eating, I notice that both have similar procedures using sharp knives and that only live animals can be slaugthered for eating - since that eating dead animals is not considered healthy. I know for sure that both religions practise male circumcision widely. Anything else that I'm missing? -- Fantastic4boy 03:35, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
This article should be changes to contain a nore neutral point of view...right now it seems to present all jews who convert to islam as forced. There is no evidence to support this.
All this article look like Islamic propaganda. I don't believe there are place in wikipedia for such thing. I am also wondering if there are article like conversation from Islam to Christianity?There is NO. I suggest to erase this article. It was created as propaganda and it is of no value except for some people that try to do propaganda. Ir it is not erased I also suggest to create article about conversation from Islam to Christianity.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Oren.tal ( talk • contribs)
I'm unsure how much the article has changed since the point which the above claim of "propaganda" was made, but in any case, it doesn't seem to be so much of a problem anymore. However, the existence of this page is problematic and unnecessary; the topic is not so unique as to warrant an article, and in that sense I wonder if propaganda-related motives come into play in this respect, at least (if they do at all). There is absolutely no reason why this tiny article shouldn't be merged into Judaism and Islam, or some even more relevant page. Perhaps I'll propose an official merge to that effect.-- C.Logan ( talk) 12:05, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I see something problematic with the existence of this article as-is. It seems apparent to me that this is a rather clunky topic that doesn't really have a strong foundation. It's not so much that the topic isn't based in reality, but the existence of the page seems rather contrived, when it would be more appropriately placed as a section at the page Judaism and Islam.
This becomes especially apparent when one notes the fact that this entire article is nothing more than a section with an introductory sentence and a paragraph of unsourced information which really doesn't say much of any importance (and is poor in comparison to the thorough elaboration on the issue and the context provided by the proposed destination article). Beyond this lone, meaty section, it has a short and rather trivial section on modern conversions which does little else but re-list names found on actual convert lists.
The relevant information within this article would be entirely appropriate within this section, and would elucidate on a topic which seems somewhat neglected there. Again, I don't believe there is any reason that this contrived topic deserves an anemic article when it has more relevance in use within an article dealing with the relation between the two religions. In summary, I propose that the information within History of conversion of Jews to Islam be merged into the "Historical interaction" section of Judaism and Islam.-- C.Logan ( talk) 12:26, 26 November 2007 (UTC)