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Isn't the tone of this article a little too... poetic? Some examples: "The history of San Marino is both very European and typical for the Italian Peninsula, and yet helps explain its unusual characteristics ..." ; "San Marino proudly asserts its independence ..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.112.24.92 ( talk) 01:31, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
In the sentence:
The original government structure was composed of a self-governed assembly known as the Arengo, which consisted of the heads of each family.
Which families are referred to? Tuf-Kat
This article seems to fail to state the obvious: that San Marino never became a part of the Kingdom of Naples, and that it was again left out in Garibaldi's nation building. It would be quite interesting to know the reason for this. Sadly, none of my history books mention the country at all. -- Jao 11:25, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
In 1957 it was a break in the longlasting list of Captains Regents, and a provisional government was founded for a couple of weeks. It would be interesting to learn why! -- Jakro64 22:54, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)
It is mentioned on the main page that San Marino never signed the Peace of Westphalia treaties, and so was "at war" with Sweden until 1996... this is kind of an interesting historical note, and it would be great if somebody could flesh it out. The best I could get from google was confirmation that this had happened, not why, the circumstances, or any information about the "official end of hostilities." I'm sure that some diplomat made SOME kind of speech about it! Iroll 18:02, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I wonder why San Marino would be a member of the Council of Europe and the United Nations, and would even go so far as to negotiate an agreement with the EU to use the euro and mint its own euro coins, but would not actually join the EU. Is there any information as to whether there has been discussion within San Marino about EU membership, and why they have not pursued it? LeoO3 19:44, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I removed the following. It's an inspiring, interesting story, but I'm not sure it belongs in Wikipedia. Perhaps if it were given a heading of 'The Story of San Marino', noted to be the 'national myth', integrated with the rest of the article, and connected to a citation, it could work(?).
How San Marino was saved?
It answers a question asked by more and more people following the mounting interest in San Marino since the small country took its place among the nations of Europe and the world.
The Republic is a member of prestigious international organisations such as the Conference on European Security and Cooperation, the Council of Europe where it ranks on a par with mach larger countries, and, since 2 March, 1992, the United Nations Organisation. It is a sovereign state in every respect. It exchanges ambassadors and signs treaties. And the singularity of all this becomes more and more evident as new associations come into being following the fading identity of national states.
A lot of people ask themselves how a tiny medieval town, similar to many others scattered throughout the Italian peninsula and the rest of Europe, was able to survive the upheavals which periodically changed the political geography of Europe and remain an independent nation.
San Marino is not the chance result of history. It was not created by the whim of a potentate, king, pope or emperor. San Marino was born thanks to the efforts - extended over several centuries - of a small community which, having convinced itself that it did "not depend on anyone" - a right bequeathed by the Saint - lay claim to the recognition of that right with a determination and a consistency which arouse admiration and respect.
The history of San Marino is the progression of an idea, an idea of freedom which a handful of mountain men with much extravagance and little common sense conceived in their natural and cultural isolation well before the year one thousand and then went on to stubbornly defend using every means at their disposal against all those who threatened it, against the rogues, know-alls and bullies of every age who, like Machiavelli, believed only in brute force and crafty codicils until finally that idea took firm root.
A "unique phenomenon" is how the Swiss historian, Paul Aebischer describes it, and "a human event which deserves admiration". It is exciting to delve back into the events of history, all arranged in an orderly and rational manner, to satisfy the need of the mind to understand how that idea took on concrete form and how those poor and ignorant mountain men were able to accomplish so much.
The people of San Marino confront history, even great history, in a very simple way, their decisions always based, as it were, on common sense, and with an amount of astuteness common to all human beings. What surprises is their perseverance, their determination which, for more than one thousand years, has never failed, as if the community had always been directed by a common mind, a common will, like the plan of an up-and-coming family to acquire wealth and power.
Hey! I'm from San Marino. Iwould like give my contribute to the wiki page of San MArino . How can I contribute? Davide —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dave.conti ( talk • contribs) 19:21, 29 March 2007 (UTC).
Hey! I'm from San Marino. Iwould like give my contribute to the wiki page of San MArino . How can I contribute? Davide-- Dave.conti 19:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC) Well, the main San Marino page needs work, and the town aricles stink. This page could use help as well. ''[[User:Kitia|Kitia'']] 23:40, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
The WW1 page says that San Marino was involved in WW1 - anyone have any idea how? FOARP ( talk) 16:38, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Why did Italy, especially when Fascist, bother respecting the sovereignty of such a tiny state? What was in it for Italy? This needs to be made clear in the article TASTremblay ( talk) 22:14, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
They didn't bother San Marino because of the lack of:
The mayor of Yurp ( talk) 23:08, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
San Marino entered the war on Italy's side (arguably, twice), though the article had strongly given the opposite impression. 94.193.35.68 ( talk) 19:16, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure this website should be considered a reliable source. It reads more like a tourist advert written by residents than a journalistic or academic article. 94.193.35.68 ( talk) 19:15, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
"San Marino is the only surviving Italian microstate." Wouldn't the Vatican qualify as an Italian microstate as well? -- Khajidha ( talk) 19:48, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
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Isn't the tone of this article a little too... poetic? Some examples: "The history of San Marino is both very European and typical for the Italian Peninsula, and yet helps explain its unusual characteristics ..." ; "San Marino proudly asserts its independence ..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.112.24.92 ( talk) 01:31, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
In the sentence:
The original government structure was composed of a self-governed assembly known as the Arengo, which consisted of the heads of each family.
Which families are referred to? Tuf-Kat
This article seems to fail to state the obvious: that San Marino never became a part of the Kingdom of Naples, and that it was again left out in Garibaldi's nation building. It would be quite interesting to know the reason for this. Sadly, none of my history books mention the country at all. -- Jao 11:25, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
In 1957 it was a break in the longlasting list of Captains Regents, and a provisional government was founded for a couple of weeks. It would be interesting to learn why! -- Jakro64 22:54, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)
It is mentioned on the main page that San Marino never signed the Peace of Westphalia treaties, and so was "at war" with Sweden until 1996... this is kind of an interesting historical note, and it would be great if somebody could flesh it out. The best I could get from google was confirmation that this had happened, not why, the circumstances, or any information about the "official end of hostilities." I'm sure that some diplomat made SOME kind of speech about it! Iroll 18:02, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I wonder why San Marino would be a member of the Council of Europe and the United Nations, and would even go so far as to negotiate an agreement with the EU to use the euro and mint its own euro coins, but would not actually join the EU. Is there any information as to whether there has been discussion within San Marino about EU membership, and why they have not pursued it? LeoO3 19:44, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I removed the following. It's an inspiring, interesting story, but I'm not sure it belongs in Wikipedia. Perhaps if it were given a heading of 'The Story of San Marino', noted to be the 'national myth', integrated with the rest of the article, and connected to a citation, it could work(?).
How San Marino was saved?
It answers a question asked by more and more people following the mounting interest in San Marino since the small country took its place among the nations of Europe and the world.
The Republic is a member of prestigious international organisations such as the Conference on European Security and Cooperation, the Council of Europe where it ranks on a par with mach larger countries, and, since 2 March, 1992, the United Nations Organisation. It is a sovereign state in every respect. It exchanges ambassadors and signs treaties. And the singularity of all this becomes more and more evident as new associations come into being following the fading identity of national states.
A lot of people ask themselves how a tiny medieval town, similar to many others scattered throughout the Italian peninsula and the rest of Europe, was able to survive the upheavals which periodically changed the political geography of Europe and remain an independent nation.
San Marino is not the chance result of history. It was not created by the whim of a potentate, king, pope or emperor. San Marino was born thanks to the efforts - extended over several centuries - of a small community which, having convinced itself that it did "not depend on anyone" - a right bequeathed by the Saint - lay claim to the recognition of that right with a determination and a consistency which arouse admiration and respect.
The history of San Marino is the progression of an idea, an idea of freedom which a handful of mountain men with much extravagance and little common sense conceived in their natural and cultural isolation well before the year one thousand and then went on to stubbornly defend using every means at their disposal against all those who threatened it, against the rogues, know-alls and bullies of every age who, like Machiavelli, believed only in brute force and crafty codicils until finally that idea took firm root.
A "unique phenomenon" is how the Swiss historian, Paul Aebischer describes it, and "a human event which deserves admiration". It is exciting to delve back into the events of history, all arranged in an orderly and rational manner, to satisfy the need of the mind to understand how that idea took on concrete form and how those poor and ignorant mountain men were able to accomplish so much.
The people of San Marino confront history, even great history, in a very simple way, their decisions always based, as it were, on common sense, and with an amount of astuteness common to all human beings. What surprises is their perseverance, their determination which, for more than one thousand years, has never failed, as if the community had always been directed by a common mind, a common will, like the plan of an up-and-coming family to acquire wealth and power.
Hey! I'm from San Marino. Iwould like give my contribute to the wiki page of San MArino . How can I contribute? Davide —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dave.conti ( talk • contribs) 19:21, 29 March 2007 (UTC).
Hey! I'm from San Marino. Iwould like give my contribute to the wiki page of San MArino . How can I contribute? Davide-- Dave.conti 19:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC) Well, the main San Marino page needs work, and the town aricles stink. This page could use help as well. ''[[User:Kitia|Kitia'']] 23:40, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
The WW1 page says that San Marino was involved in WW1 - anyone have any idea how? FOARP ( talk) 16:38, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Why did Italy, especially when Fascist, bother respecting the sovereignty of such a tiny state? What was in it for Italy? This needs to be made clear in the article TASTremblay ( talk) 22:14, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
They didn't bother San Marino because of the lack of:
The mayor of Yurp ( talk) 23:08, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
San Marino entered the war on Italy's side (arguably, twice), though the article had strongly given the opposite impression. 94.193.35.68 ( talk) 19:16, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure this website should be considered a reliable source. It reads more like a tourist advert written by residents than a journalistic or academic article. 94.193.35.68 ( talk) 19:15, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
"San Marino is the only surviving Italian microstate." Wouldn't the Vatican qualify as an Italian microstate as well? -- Khajidha ( talk) 19:48, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
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there is an unfinished sentence in the "Early Middle Ages and Renaissance" section "...whose feast day it was, and which afterwards has been celebrated annually in the country until .[8]" 85.31.164.11 ( talk) 12:11, 4 March 2024 (UTC)