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I'm going to join in the work of expanding this article and I would like to bring up an issue with citing C. W. Buchholtz's Rocky Mountain National Park: A History. This is still the standard narrative account of the Park's history. The web version posted by the National Park Service does not have any reference to page numbers but is broken up by chapter. While having this source available online is a great service, the lack of page numbers is unfortunate and unhelpful for our purposes. I'd like to suggest we cite the page numbers from the book (that is, if everyone has access to the book!) and simply refer to the url of the contents page of the web version that I referenced above. If we alternatively just use each chapter's url I'm afraid the cites will be imprecise and muddle-up the reflist. I'd further suggest the use of the shortened footnotes system ( WP:SRF) here, before things get too far developed. In writing about the history of Rocky there are a limited number of sources, so we will be using a few sources like Buchholtz repeatedly. I think it will be easier in the long run, and look cleaner, if we use shortened footnotes, especially for these main sources of info. I'd be glad to help bring the small number of current cites into the SFN fold if there is consensus to go that route. Or we could take a hybrid approach. Thoughts? -- KingJeff1970 ( talk) 19:18, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
I'm going to join in the work of expanding this article
and I would like to bring up an issue with citing C. W. Buchholtz's Rocky Mountain National Park: A History. This is still the standard narrative account of the Park's history. The web version posted by the National Park Service does not have any reference to page numbers but is broken up by chapter. While having this source available online is a great service, the lack of page numbers is unfortunate and unhelpful for our purposes. I'd like to suggest we cite the page numbers from the book (that is, if everyone has access to the book!) and simply refer to the url of the contents page of the web version that I referenced above. If we alternatively just use each chapter's url I'm afraid the cites will be imprecise and muddle-up the reflist.
I'd further suggest the use of the shortened footnotes system ( WP:SRF) here, before things get too far developed. In writing about the history of Rocky there are a limited number of sources, so we will be using a few sources like Buchholtz repeatedly. I think it will be easier in the long run, and look cleaner, if we use shortened footnotes, especially for these main sources of info. I'd be glad to help bring the small number of current cites into the SFN fold if there is consensus to go that route. Or we could take a hybrid approach. Thoughts?-- KingJeff1970 ( talk) 19:18, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
As an FYI, I currently have this page where I have started notes about expanding the article - based upon what articles link to RMNP. And, that's all it is right now, a list. I haven't started working it to see what is applicable or not.
My approach for any article is to research first.-- CaroleHenson (talk) 19:38, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi KingJeff1970,
While working on the Arapaho information, I came across interesting information about people who had lived in Estes Park before it was settled and helped name many of the parks area. See this book (<ref name="Law p. 76" />) and this article (<ref name="Arapaho knowledge">).
Is this something you'd like to add?-- CaroleHenson (talk) 00:52, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
I am not seeing that Texas Jack Omohundro was the Earl of Dunraven's guide in Estes Park. The Hunting in the Yellowstone by Dunraven says that he was hunting in Estes Park when he received work to meet up with Texas Jack to go to Yellowstone. (page 52).
Is there any evidence that I'm missing that Texas Jack took Dunraven through Estes Park?-- CaroleHenson (talk) 12:35, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
I suggest a more general Environment Events section with 20th and 21st Century subsections. This shall include the natural disasters from the template {{ Rocky Mountain National Park}}:
- DutchTreat ( talk) 12:57, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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I'm going to join in the work of expanding this article and I would like to bring up an issue with citing C. W. Buchholtz's Rocky Mountain National Park: A History. This is still the standard narrative account of the Park's history. The web version posted by the National Park Service does not have any reference to page numbers but is broken up by chapter. While having this source available online is a great service, the lack of page numbers is unfortunate and unhelpful for our purposes. I'd like to suggest we cite the page numbers from the book (that is, if everyone has access to the book!) and simply refer to the url of the contents page of the web version that I referenced above. If we alternatively just use each chapter's url I'm afraid the cites will be imprecise and muddle-up the reflist. I'd further suggest the use of the shortened footnotes system ( WP:SRF) here, before things get too far developed. In writing about the history of Rocky there are a limited number of sources, so we will be using a few sources like Buchholtz repeatedly. I think it will be easier in the long run, and look cleaner, if we use shortened footnotes, especially for these main sources of info. I'd be glad to help bring the small number of current cites into the SFN fold if there is consensus to go that route. Or we could take a hybrid approach. Thoughts? -- KingJeff1970 ( talk) 19:18, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
I'm going to join in the work of expanding this article
and I would like to bring up an issue with citing C. W. Buchholtz's Rocky Mountain National Park: A History. This is still the standard narrative account of the Park's history. The web version posted by the National Park Service does not have any reference to page numbers but is broken up by chapter. While having this source available online is a great service, the lack of page numbers is unfortunate and unhelpful for our purposes. I'd like to suggest we cite the page numbers from the book (that is, if everyone has access to the book!) and simply refer to the url of the contents page of the web version that I referenced above. If we alternatively just use each chapter's url I'm afraid the cites will be imprecise and muddle-up the reflist.
I'd further suggest the use of the shortened footnotes system ( WP:SRF) here, before things get too far developed. In writing about the history of Rocky there are a limited number of sources, so we will be using a few sources like Buchholtz repeatedly. I think it will be easier in the long run, and look cleaner, if we use shortened footnotes, especially for these main sources of info. I'd be glad to help bring the small number of current cites into the SFN fold if there is consensus to go that route. Or we could take a hybrid approach. Thoughts?-- KingJeff1970 ( talk) 19:18, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
As an FYI, I currently have this page where I have started notes about expanding the article - based upon what articles link to RMNP. And, that's all it is right now, a list. I haven't started working it to see what is applicable or not.
My approach for any article is to research first.-- CaroleHenson (talk) 19:38, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi KingJeff1970,
While working on the Arapaho information, I came across interesting information about people who had lived in Estes Park before it was settled and helped name many of the parks area. See this book (<ref name="Law p. 76" />) and this article (<ref name="Arapaho knowledge">).
Is this something you'd like to add?-- CaroleHenson (talk) 00:52, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
I am not seeing that Texas Jack Omohundro was the Earl of Dunraven's guide in Estes Park. The Hunting in the Yellowstone by Dunraven says that he was hunting in Estes Park when he received work to meet up with Texas Jack to go to Yellowstone. (page 52).
Is there any evidence that I'm missing that Texas Jack took Dunraven through Estes Park?-- CaroleHenson (talk) 12:35, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
I suggest a more general Environment Events section with 20th and 21st Century subsections. This shall include the natural disasters from the template {{ Rocky Mountain National Park}}:
- DutchTreat ( talk) 12:57, 11 August 2019 (UTC)