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![]() | History of Maryland Route 200 was a Engineering and technology good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | ||||||||||||
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Current status: Former good article nominee |
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Reviewer: Rs chen 7754 01:14, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
The article is horribly scoped. No other WP:USRD highway article has a split like this. Not even for more important routes such as Interstates.
Failing article To be honest, this article should be merged into Maryland Route 200. Yes, that article is super long, but half of the material in that article shouldn't even be there. That article should be completely rewritten from scratch to comply with WP:USRD/STDS. Our coverage of MD 200 is, and has been for several years, the worst coverage of any highway in USRD. -- Rs chen 7754 04:48, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Dough 48 72 02:27, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
This article still has the same basic issues from the first GA review. Therefore, I will have to fail it. Honestly, this information does not need to be covered in a standalone article. I would suggest cleaning up the prose by cutting out quotes and unnecessary information and merge the detail into the History section of Maryland Route 200. Dough 48 72 02:27, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
I did not write this article, but have read it carefully and added the lead and construction sections. My review did not find POV problems. It maintains an encyclopedic tone in explaining a 30-year controversy that factored into a number of political campaigns. Accordingly, I am removing the tags at the top of the article. Racepacket ( talk) 14:36, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Re: Notability. For this article, it's not due to the project being a feat of highway engineering, but rather on its political impacts, the question of how the highway will affect the major traffic congestion problem, and the duration of the situation. WP:GEOSCOPE "Demonstrable long-term impact on a significant region of the world." DC region is significant; impact here is not just on county govt. but also on 2 governors' races, with direct interest from a sitting US President. WP:EFFECT, includes "possible impact on elections," and "An event that is a precedent or catalyst for something else of lasting significance is likely to be notable." Fining drivers who enter without an EZ Pass is a precedent which could well catalyze other developments. WP:PERSISTENCE "Fifty-six years is an embarrassing. The only thing more embarrassing than 56 years would be 57," Ehrlich said about how long the debate has been going on ... It's such a big deal to Ehrlich -- that his voice cracked when talking about it." (from 2006 news story)
Agreed that 50 years of controversy involving two governors may not fit neatly into the established format used by WikiProject Roads. Why not let it branch out into a separate but related article instead? Trilliumz ( talk) 03:39, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Ok, here's my perspective. A lot of the original history behind the road that is now being built as MD-200 is related to the Outer Beltway. That article could benefit from expansion. If historical material is put there, it can be summarized and linked back into the history section of the main MD-200 article using a {{ main}} tag. Ontario Highway 401#History links back to four other highways for full detailed histories, but summarizes them to cover its backstory. Then the ON-401 article continues with its unique history. I think a similar approach could be done here. Imzadi 1979 → 02:53, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
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Current status: Former good article nominee |
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Reviewing |
Reviewer: Rs chen 7754 01:14, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
The article is horribly scoped. No other WP:USRD highway article has a split like this. Not even for more important routes such as Interstates.
Failing article To be honest, this article should be merged into Maryland Route 200. Yes, that article is super long, but half of the material in that article shouldn't even be there. That article should be completely rewritten from scratch to comply with WP:USRD/STDS. Our coverage of MD 200 is, and has been for several years, the worst coverage of any highway in USRD. -- Rs chen 7754 04:48, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Dough 48 72 02:27, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
This article still has the same basic issues from the first GA review. Therefore, I will have to fail it. Honestly, this information does not need to be covered in a standalone article. I would suggest cleaning up the prose by cutting out quotes and unnecessary information and merge the detail into the History section of Maryland Route 200. Dough 48 72 02:27, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
I did not write this article, but have read it carefully and added the lead and construction sections. My review did not find POV problems. It maintains an encyclopedic tone in explaining a 30-year controversy that factored into a number of political campaigns. Accordingly, I am removing the tags at the top of the article. Racepacket ( talk) 14:36, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Re: Notability. For this article, it's not due to the project being a feat of highway engineering, but rather on its political impacts, the question of how the highway will affect the major traffic congestion problem, and the duration of the situation. WP:GEOSCOPE "Demonstrable long-term impact on a significant region of the world." DC region is significant; impact here is not just on county govt. but also on 2 governors' races, with direct interest from a sitting US President. WP:EFFECT, includes "possible impact on elections," and "An event that is a precedent or catalyst for something else of lasting significance is likely to be notable." Fining drivers who enter without an EZ Pass is a precedent which could well catalyze other developments. WP:PERSISTENCE "Fifty-six years is an embarrassing. The only thing more embarrassing than 56 years would be 57," Ehrlich said about how long the debate has been going on ... It's such a big deal to Ehrlich -- that his voice cracked when talking about it." (from 2006 news story)
Agreed that 50 years of controversy involving two governors may not fit neatly into the established format used by WikiProject Roads. Why not let it branch out into a separate but related article instead? Trilliumz ( talk) 03:39, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Ok, here's my perspective. A lot of the original history behind the road that is now being built as MD-200 is related to the Outer Beltway. That article could benefit from expansion. If historical material is put there, it can be summarized and linked back into the history section of the main MD-200 article using a {{ main}} tag. Ontario Highway 401#History links back to four other highways for full detailed histories, but summarizes them to cover its backstory. Then the ON-401 article continues with its unique history. I think a similar approach could be done here. Imzadi 1979 → 02:53, 12 May 2011 (UTC)