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the small semi-spoiler about The Handmaid's Tale would seem to be unacceptable here because: - this is not an article about the book - the spoiler has nothing to do with Historical Present — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.207.2.231 ( talk) 11:50, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Is the "historical present" the same as the "perpetual present tense" briefly mentioned in Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles#Check your fiction? -- 68.0.124.33 ( talk) 14:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
The Third (1996) of edition of "Fowler's Modern English Usage" makes a clear distinction between the words "historic" and "historical" and calls the "use of the present tense instead of the past in vivid narration" as "historic past", not "historical past", see: Fowler, H. W. (1996) [1926], Burchfield, R.W. (ed.), The New Fowler's Modern English Usage (3 ed.), Oxford: Clarendon Press, p. 361, ISBN 0-19-869126-2
Should the article therefore be called "Historic present" with a redirect from "Historical present"? -- TedColes ( talk) 08:04, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Is this the same, or considered to be, the same tense?Osborne 13:33, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
The use of the historical present in WP articles can be confusing to those with English as a first language, even more so to others. Is there a WP ruling etc. about this, e.g. as being unencyclopaedic? If so, l feel it should be mentioned here, with a link. If not, I propose that it should be addressed. I would like to be able to quote such a ruling when clarifying articles, or suggesting such clarification. GilesW ( talk) 15:55, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
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the small semi-spoiler about The Handmaid's Tale would seem to be unacceptable here because: - this is not an article about the book - the spoiler has nothing to do with Historical Present — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.207.2.231 ( talk) 11:50, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Is the "historical present" the same as the "perpetual present tense" briefly mentioned in Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles#Check your fiction? -- 68.0.124.33 ( talk) 14:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
The Third (1996) of edition of "Fowler's Modern English Usage" makes a clear distinction between the words "historic" and "historical" and calls the "use of the present tense instead of the past in vivid narration" as "historic past", not "historical past", see: Fowler, H. W. (1996) [1926], Burchfield, R.W. (ed.), The New Fowler's Modern English Usage (3 ed.), Oxford: Clarendon Press, p. 361, ISBN 0-19-869126-2
Should the article therefore be called "Historic present" with a redirect from "Historical present"? -- TedColes ( talk) 08:04, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Is this the same, or considered to be, the same tense?Osborne 13:33, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
The use of the historical present in WP articles can be confusing to those with English as a first language, even more so to others. Is there a WP ruling etc. about this, e.g. as being unencyclopaedic? If so, l feel it should be mentioned here, with a link. If not, I propose that it should be addressed. I would like to be able to quote such a ruling when clarifying articles, or suggesting such clarification. GilesW ( talk) 15:55, 3 April 2016 (UTC)