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Given the modern meaning of "Hispanic", it seems unlikely that actual Spanish people, from Spain, qualify - since they are, after all, white Europeans. ðarkun coll 23:29, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
If the
Spanish came up with an ethnicity/race called "Anglo" which would include all their mutts/former slaves of America it would be kinda of a "How do you like them Apples" scenario wouldn't it? Anyways This has all been "typical" "uneducated Americans" stealing words and giving it their own warp meaning no wonder the world hates them and think of them as the stupidest people. Hispanics is the old term to present day Spanish and Portuguese people of Hispaniola (now present day Spain & Portugal); it has absolutely nothing to do with the brown people of Americas. Hispanic as ethnicity Does Not exist not even in the so-called hispanic countries like Mexico and Most certainly is NOT a Race!!! Your friends from Spain who are Non-American citizens would call themselves Spanish first and foremost rather than Hispanic cause Hispanic is the old term that includes Portugal. BUT if they become American citizens the American meaning of Hispanic does apply to them too not just south-americans. Though I find it Funny how people would say Spanish people R not Hispanic? when Spanish people are the REAL Hispanics and the Real original race of Hispanics is the caucasian race again this is the real original meaning of Hispanic going to its true roots which are European. Though I must add I find it fascinating how white South-American immigrants like
Alexis Bledel who may not have Spanish/Portuguese ancestry is proud of her Hispanic origins/culture =) and she's practically "whiter" than Britney Spears. Hehehe In a way it's like White people are taking back this Term not just leaving it to the brown people who get away with it in the USA.
Also Has anyone filled out the U.S Census 2010? It has Hispanic as a separate category to the race category. So those who have marked themselves as Hispanic have to also fill out the race question too. So there, even the American term Hispanic says Hispanic is Not a race this is in the U.S Census!!!
BTW, did you know Race for Hispanic is White by default unless otherwise stated. So if a person uses the infamous "other" incorrectly (and YES writting mestizo is Incorrect as it is not a race) or don't mark anything at all by default they are counted as White.(I bet A Lot of people don't know this!!!) — Preceding
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"Spain" is the modern translation of "Hispania", not "Iberia", which is the modern translation of the Latin word "Hiberia". Mechanical Keyboarder ( talk) 22:44, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
About the latest edition by user:Mechanical Keyboarder, I have the following to say:
For those reasons, I'm recovering my previous edition. -- Jotamar ( talk) 16:12, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
PS: I've checked that the 2 online Latin dictionaries in the references do really translate Hispania as Spain, but that just means that they're sloppy and unreliable. -- Jotamar ( talk) 16:26, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
No-one knows what "Hispanic" means. Maybe it's about race, maybe ethnicity, maybe it transcends both. At least the article makes it clear that's it's a mess. Maproom ( talk) 12:41, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
I've added maintenance tags related to the POV of this article. This article is heavily biased towards the United States and the connotations that the term "Hispanic" has within US culture. All of the notable Hispanic people featured at the top of the page are Americans. Editors should be mindful that only an extremely small proportion of the Hispanic people in the world live in the United States. Most of the article appears to present a world-wide view of the subject, but there are notable areas that can be improved tremendously. Thanks. SStephens13 ( talk • contribs) 19:14, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
An ethonym doesn't sound right. Since we mention the US' definition, we need to classify it with a term that's just as vague and broad as their definition and includes all kinds of people--not just those of certain ethnicities like 'ethnonym' means. Ties to a Spanish-speaking country (with ties meaning anything like lineage, birth, culture, and language to name a few) doesn't describe an ethnonym because it doesn't group ethnicities. Classifying 'Hispanic' as a cultural heritage or lingual heritage better suits the US definition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.39.57 ( talk) 19:45, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
This fact is already well known since the advent of genetic research. These so-called anglos are Hispanic too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQHX_MwhN80
Ignorance is so incredible. Goob. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.125.185.140 ( talk) 01:01, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, let us kill the messenger!. Gooffy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.110.202.133 ( talk) 01:04, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
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Given the modern meaning of "Hispanic", it seems unlikely that actual Spanish people, from Spain, qualify - since they are, after all, white Europeans. ðarkun coll 23:29, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
If the
Spanish came up with an ethnicity/race called "Anglo" which would include all their mutts/former slaves of America it would be kinda of a "How do you like them Apples" scenario wouldn't it? Anyways This has all been "typical" "uneducated Americans" stealing words and giving it their own warp meaning no wonder the world hates them and think of them as the stupidest people. Hispanics is the old term to present day Spanish and Portuguese people of Hispaniola (now present day Spain & Portugal); it has absolutely nothing to do with the brown people of Americas. Hispanic as ethnicity Does Not exist not even in the so-called hispanic countries like Mexico and Most certainly is NOT a Race!!! Your friends from Spain who are Non-American citizens would call themselves Spanish first and foremost rather than Hispanic cause Hispanic is the old term that includes Portugal. BUT if they become American citizens the American meaning of Hispanic does apply to them too not just south-americans. Though I find it Funny how people would say Spanish people R not Hispanic? when Spanish people are the REAL Hispanics and the Real original race of Hispanics is the caucasian race again this is the real original meaning of Hispanic going to its true roots which are European. Though I must add I find it fascinating how white South-American immigrants like
Alexis Bledel who may not have Spanish/Portuguese ancestry is proud of her Hispanic origins/culture =) and she's practically "whiter" than Britney Spears. Hehehe In a way it's like White people are taking back this Term not just leaving it to the brown people who get away with it in the USA.
Also Has anyone filled out the U.S Census 2010? It has Hispanic as a separate category to the race category. So those who have marked themselves as Hispanic have to also fill out the race question too. So there, even the American term Hispanic says Hispanic is Not a race this is in the U.S Census!!!
BTW, did you know Race for Hispanic is White by default unless otherwise stated. So if a person uses the infamous "other" incorrectly (and YES writting mestizo is Incorrect as it is not a race) or don't mark anything at all by default they are counted as White.(I bet A Lot of people don't know this!!!) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Anen87 (
talk •
contribs)
11:19, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
"Spain" is the modern translation of "Hispania", not "Iberia", which is the modern translation of the Latin word "Hiberia". Mechanical Keyboarder ( talk) 22:44, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
About the latest edition by user:Mechanical Keyboarder, I have the following to say:
For those reasons, I'm recovering my previous edition. -- Jotamar ( talk) 16:12, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
PS: I've checked that the 2 online Latin dictionaries in the references do really translate Hispania as Spain, but that just means that they're sloppy and unreliable. -- Jotamar ( talk) 16:26, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
No-one knows what "Hispanic" means. Maybe it's about race, maybe ethnicity, maybe it transcends both. At least the article makes it clear that's it's a mess. Maproom ( talk) 12:41, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
I've added maintenance tags related to the POV of this article. This article is heavily biased towards the United States and the connotations that the term "Hispanic" has within US culture. All of the notable Hispanic people featured at the top of the page are Americans. Editors should be mindful that only an extremely small proportion of the Hispanic people in the world live in the United States. Most of the article appears to present a world-wide view of the subject, but there are notable areas that can be improved tremendously. Thanks. SStephens13 ( talk • contribs) 19:14, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
An ethonym doesn't sound right. Since we mention the US' definition, we need to classify it with a term that's just as vague and broad as their definition and includes all kinds of people--not just those of certain ethnicities like 'ethnonym' means. Ties to a Spanish-speaking country (with ties meaning anything like lineage, birth, culture, and language to name a few) doesn't describe an ethnonym because it doesn't group ethnicities. Classifying 'Hispanic' as a cultural heritage or lingual heritage better suits the US definition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.39.57 ( talk) 19:45, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
This fact is already well known since the advent of genetic research. These so-called anglos are Hispanic too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQHX_MwhN80
Ignorance is so incredible. Goob. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.125.185.140 ( talk) 01:01, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, let us kill the messenger!. Gooffy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.110.202.133 ( talk) 01:04, 6 April 2011 (UTC)