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Not disputing the accuracy of this... but it is really worth mentioning? It strikes me as a bit of Masonic Trivia that readers would not need to know. Blueboar ( talk) 01:53, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
This article is missing the modern interpretation of the Masonic legend.
"From reading rituals [...] Hiram Abiff turns out to be the Great Architect of the Universe. [This] however, is not obvious at all, at least for most modern Masons. [...] Hiram Abiff is explicitly referred to as the architect of the temple of king Solomon; and the Bible is explicit about who designed that temple, viz. God. 1 Chronicles 28:11–13 28:19 Therefore it should not surprise us to find that Hiram Abiff, the architect of the temple, turns out to be God." [1]: 151
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I can laugh at a man who uses terrible sources to arrive at a very silly conclusion, yes. I just said it needs included. What the hell else do you want? Fiddlersmouth ( talk) 01:41, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
I tweaked... Hiram Abiff (also Hiram Abif or the Widow's son) is the central character of an important story presented to all candidates during the third degree in Freemasonry.
Hiram is presented as the chief architect of King Solomon's Temple. He is murdered inside this Temple by three ruffians, after they failed to obtain from him the Master Masons' secret passwords. The themes of the story are the importance of fidelity and the certainty of karma after death. 2601:589:4801:5660:EC71:24D9:9C8A:2D4C ( talk) 06:49, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
Albert Mackey has an explanation for the origin of Hiram Abiff. Is there any particular reason why it has not been included?-- Berig (talk) 20:26, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
According to Jewish commentator Metzudat David, the expression 'avi' relates to the fact the Hiram was also Hiram's father's artist. 2A01:73C0:601:5BFF:0:0:A2F5:38B6 ( talk) 13:43, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
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Not disputing the accuracy of this... but it is really worth mentioning? It strikes me as a bit of Masonic Trivia that readers would not need to know. Blueboar ( talk) 01:53, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
This article is missing the modern interpretation of the Masonic legend.
"From reading rituals [...] Hiram Abiff turns out to be the Great Architect of the Universe. [This] however, is not obvious at all, at least for most modern Masons. [...] Hiram Abiff is explicitly referred to as the architect of the temple of king Solomon; and the Bible is explicit about who designed that temple, viz. God. 1 Chronicles 28:11–13 28:19 Therefore it should not surprise us to find that Hiram Abiff, the architect of the temple, turns out to be God." [1]: 151
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I can laugh at a man who uses terrible sources to arrive at a very silly conclusion, yes. I just said it needs included. What the hell else do you want? Fiddlersmouth ( talk) 01:41, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
I tweaked... Hiram Abiff (also Hiram Abif or the Widow's son) is the central character of an important story presented to all candidates during the third degree in Freemasonry.
Hiram is presented as the chief architect of King Solomon's Temple. He is murdered inside this Temple by three ruffians, after they failed to obtain from him the Master Masons' secret passwords. The themes of the story are the importance of fidelity and the certainty of karma after death. 2601:589:4801:5660:EC71:24D9:9C8A:2D4C ( talk) 06:49, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
Albert Mackey has an explanation for the origin of Hiram Abiff. Is there any particular reason why it has not been included?-- Berig (talk) 20:26, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
According to Jewish commentator Metzudat David, the expression 'avi' relates to the fact the Hiram was also Hiram's father's artist. 2A01:73C0:601:5BFF:0:0:A2F5:38B6 ( talk) 13:43, 22 December 2021 (UTC)