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In case anyone wants to beef up article: Huffington Post, Slate, as well as another on on the Hindu Business Line. CarolMooreDC 04:28, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
This is regarding this edit, which I reverted. The addition was this:
Although many feminists argue that "hipster sexism" is just true sexism in disguise, those who engage in it do so with a mindset that sexism is an outdated and archaic institution in which only ignorant and backwards people still engage, thereby making the demonstration of "hipster sexism" seem satirical and ironic, and a way of spotlighting the fact that it is ridiculous to actually have sexist beliefs and actions in the modern age, rather than it being an actual subjugation of women.
Although I agree that the article needs expansion, the edit introduced a few " weasel words", and failed to clearly indicate where each perspective was coming from. Starting the sentence with "although many feminists..." and then later contradicting that statement is strongly implying in Wikipedia's voice (without saying directly) that the perspective of some feminists is wrong. This doesn't seem neutral to me, since it's not Wikipedia's call. The relatively few sources the article has about the phrase are not really strong enough to make definitive statements about what the mindset of "hipster sexists" is. The lead could benefit from being rewritten, but any value judgements need to be clearly attributed, and not given in Wikipedia's voice. On a related note, I'm not sure The Frisky is a reliable source, and I don't think it should be cited without indicating in the article that it's an opinion piece. Grayfell ( talk) 07:50, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
This article, along with the similarly marginal in terms of notability: Hipster racism could be usefully merged into section of Hipster (contemporary subculture). Notability for a stand-alone article is marginal, but this WP:NEO would be a useful part of the larger topic. I am open to other potential merge targets. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 16:59, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Overall I think you have a great start to this topic, you come out with a good statement of what hipster sexism is and how it is played out. One comment I will make is that a couple times in your article you mention that hipster sexism is applied to women, can hipster sexism be applied to men as well? Also I think yo could benefit from adding heading and subheadings throughout. You did a great job on the sources and carrying over the definition and relating it to your main points. I do think you could expand slightly on how hipster sexism is related to the company Thinx, maybe added some quantity data to make your point stronger, but all in all it is looking to be a very good article!
-Abigail Buckingham — Preceding unsigned comment added by AbigailBuckingham ( talk • contribs) 04:02, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
"Hipster sexism can often be found in an entire company and not just a singular person. A company by the name of Thinx is one prime example of this in that its one product is menstruation underwear, a product meant solely for women, yet according to "reports across female focused media," employees that worked for this company were underpaid and offered only two weeks of maternity leave.[8]"
How does this relate to hipster sexism? Seems to me like this company is not making maternity leave/salary decisions in an ironic/self-aware sense at all. And poor benefits and compensation hardly amount to objectification/sexism against women, especially when the sentence doesn't clarify whether employees are women or not (a quick search revealed that the CEO is a woman). The sentence needs to be clarified or removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.26.105.140 ( talk) 16:45, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
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In case anyone wants to beef up article: Huffington Post, Slate, as well as another on on the Hindu Business Line. CarolMooreDC 04:28, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
This is regarding this edit, which I reverted. The addition was this:
Although many feminists argue that "hipster sexism" is just true sexism in disguise, those who engage in it do so with a mindset that sexism is an outdated and archaic institution in which only ignorant and backwards people still engage, thereby making the demonstration of "hipster sexism" seem satirical and ironic, and a way of spotlighting the fact that it is ridiculous to actually have sexist beliefs and actions in the modern age, rather than it being an actual subjugation of women.
Although I agree that the article needs expansion, the edit introduced a few " weasel words", and failed to clearly indicate where each perspective was coming from. Starting the sentence with "although many feminists..." and then later contradicting that statement is strongly implying in Wikipedia's voice (without saying directly) that the perspective of some feminists is wrong. This doesn't seem neutral to me, since it's not Wikipedia's call. The relatively few sources the article has about the phrase are not really strong enough to make definitive statements about what the mindset of "hipster sexists" is. The lead could benefit from being rewritten, but any value judgements need to be clearly attributed, and not given in Wikipedia's voice. On a related note, I'm not sure The Frisky is a reliable source, and I don't think it should be cited without indicating in the article that it's an opinion piece. Grayfell ( talk) 07:50, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
This article, along with the similarly marginal in terms of notability: Hipster racism could be usefully merged into section of Hipster (contemporary subculture). Notability for a stand-alone article is marginal, but this WP:NEO would be a useful part of the larger topic. I am open to other potential merge targets. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 16:59, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Overall I think you have a great start to this topic, you come out with a good statement of what hipster sexism is and how it is played out. One comment I will make is that a couple times in your article you mention that hipster sexism is applied to women, can hipster sexism be applied to men as well? Also I think yo could benefit from adding heading and subheadings throughout. You did a great job on the sources and carrying over the definition and relating it to your main points. I do think you could expand slightly on how hipster sexism is related to the company Thinx, maybe added some quantity data to make your point stronger, but all in all it is looking to be a very good article!
-Abigail Buckingham — Preceding unsigned comment added by AbigailBuckingham ( talk • contribs) 04:02, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
"Hipster sexism can often be found in an entire company and not just a singular person. A company by the name of Thinx is one prime example of this in that its one product is menstruation underwear, a product meant solely for women, yet according to "reports across female focused media," employees that worked for this company were underpaid and offered only two weeks of maternity leave.[8]"
How does this relate to hipster sexism? Seems to me like this company is not making maternity leave/salary decisions in an ironic/self-aware sense at all. And poor benefits and compensation hardly amount to objectification/sexism against women, especially when the sentence doesn't clarify whether employees are women or not (a quick search revealed that the CEO is a woman). The sentence needs to be clarified or removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.26.105.140 ( talk) 16:45, 8 May 2020 (UTC)