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I removed the reference to a location in Arcadia. I couldn't find a reference to the Garden of the Hesperides being in Arcadia.
I removed Libya as a site for the Atlas Mountains. Libya had distractingly different mythic connotations for the Greeks, too.
I think a reference to four Hesperides sounds like a mistake.I would like to remove or check those "extra" names: I suspect a "goddess" website, they are a mixed bag ( Arethusa?) with a lot of variations on Hesperis ("western") to fill out the list. Spurious?
Put back any of these references if I'm mistaken. Wetman 14:34, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
The extra names (as well as the variants of numbers) came from The Meridian Handbook of Classical Mythology, by Edward Tripp, a 1970 publication by an imprint of Penguin Books. It also lists Libya as one of the possible locations of the Garden. I think the Arcadian Mountains reference was from an earlier edit...I'm not sure what the basis for that is. The thing to remember with mythology, however, is that there are plenty of varying stories in the classical sources. Please be cautious in removing information just because you personally can't find a reference to it, unless it's implausible. Just a little bit of book research would have shown that at the very least, there is not agreement in the stories on where the garden is located. Postdlf 16:03 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
The intelligent and thoughtful way way to return a bit of text that had been temporarily placed here is to return it. Not merely to revert. Extermely poor manners. Wetman 17:47, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, but it was purely a matter of efficiency in editing. Making a mess out of the article is not the way to respond—I'll have to clean it up later when I have more time. Postdlf 18:18 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Wikipedia is biased off of facts, not opinion. In a scenerio of mythological origin in which varying stories occur, it doesn't matter which story you personally believe to be true. It's raw information that we're looking for.
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Hrrmmph!? Directly above? Geophysically, it depends on where on Earth you stand and what time it is. However, Ursa Minor is north of everything, because it contains the celestial north pole. For the rest we have the following sources to use:
Said: Rursus ☺ ★ 20:04, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
This unsourced, apparently fantastical material was entered by banned User:-Ril- in an edit of 09:49, 30 January 2005. I have deleted it.-- Wetman 20:33, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
"The Euboean Greek poet Hesiod said that the ancient name of Cádiz was Erytheia, another name for the Hesperides." No, Hesiod did not mention Gades (Cadiz), though he mentioned "sea-circled Erytheis" and "weater-washed Erytheis". Inserting Cadiz here, as if Hesiod made the connection, is spurious.-- Wetman ( talk) 01:43, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
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First it is said that this Garden was located in North Africa. Then in the next sentence, it is said that according to Stesichorus, and Strabo, the Garden is located in the Iberian peninsula. But that is simply contradictory! -- Joe Gatt ( talk) 18:26, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
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I removed the reference to a location in Arcadia. I couldn't find a reference to the Garden of the Hesperides being in Arcadia.
I removed Libya as a site for the Atlas Mountains. Libya had distractingly different mythic connotations for the Greeks, too.
I think a reference to four Hesperides sounds like a mistake.I would like to remove or check those "extra" names: I suspect a "goddess" website, they are a mixed bag ( Arethusa?) with a lot of variations on Hesperis ("western") to fill out the list. Spurious?
Put back any of these references if I'm mistaken. Wetman 14:34, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
The extra names (as well as the variants of numbers) came from The Meridian Handbook of Classical Mythology, by Edward Tripp, a 1970 publication by an imprint of Penguin Books. It also lists Libya as one of the possible locations of the Garden. I think the Arcadian Mountains reference was from an earlier edit...I'm not sure what the basis for that is. The thing to remember with mythology, however, is that there are plenty of varying stories in the classical sources. Please be cautious in removing information just because you personally can't find a reference to it, unless it's implausible. Just a little bit of book research would have shown that at the very least, there is not agreement in the stories on where the garden is located. Postdlf 16:03 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
The intelligent and thoughtful way way to return a bit of text that had been temporarily placed here is to return it. Not merely to revert. Extermely poor manners. Wetman 17:47, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, but it was purely a matter of efficiency in editing. Making a mess out of the article is not the way to respond—I'll have to clean it up later when I have more time. Postdlf 18:18 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Wikipedia is biased off of facts, not opinion. In a scenerio of mythological origin in which varying stories occur, it doesn't matter which story you personally believe to be true. It's raw information that we're looking for.
MelancholyPanda (
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02:31, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Text says:
Hrrmmph!? Directly above? Geophysically, it depends on where on Earth you stand and what time it is. However, Ursa Minor is north of everything, because it contains the celestial north pole. For the rest we have the following sources to use:
Said: Rursus ☺ ★ 20:04, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
This unsourced, apparently fantastical material was entered by banned User:-Ril- in an edit of 09:49, 30 January 2005. I have deleted it.-- Wetman 20:33, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
"The Euboean Greek poet Hesiod said that the ancient name of Cádiz was Erytheia, another name for the Hesperides." No, Hesiod did not mention Gades (Cadiz), though he mentioned "sea-circled Erytheis" and "weater-washed Erytheis". Inserting Cadiz here, as if Hesiod made the connection, is spurious.-- Wetman ( talk) 01:43, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
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First it is said that this Garden was located in North Africa. Then in the next sentence, it is said that according to Stesichorus, and Strabo, the Garden is located in the Iberian peninsula. But that is simply contradictory! -- Joe Gatt ( talk) 18:26, 19 August 2017 (UTC)