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There are inconsistencies on her date of death. At the beginning of the article is states 23 August 1923. Under "Later life and research" and other sources states her death was on 26 August 1923. sike
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Within the text it is claimed she died in North Lancing, Sussex; in the infobox in Bexhill-on-Sea. Does anyone know which is accurate? -- RedHillian | Talk 23:38, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hello ther don't you find strange that the biography of this lady has " ethnicity = Jewish". Scientifically speaking ethnicity is a social construction to divide homo sapiens in separate groups. 2dly I do not see any other biographies have ethnicity, why do this lady? As I said the concept is ambiguous and If wiki wants to conmemorate women in sciences, why do put ethnicity in the small square at the right? thinking as I said before, that no other biographies have it. txs
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In September 2013, the former Somers Park Primary School in Portsmouth became an Academy and was renamed Ark Ayrton Primary Academy in her honour.
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I am not an authority on Hertha Marks Ayrton by any stretch, but I noticed an inconsistency regarding the origin of her assumed name: the short video of her life which I found here: [1] details a character named Hertha in the eponymously named feminist novel by the Finnish feminist Frederika Bremer. Perhaps both theories could be noted? Tallen387 ( talk) 11:56, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
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It sounds as if she got married twice, both times to the same man: once in the section on Mathematics and Electrical Engineering Work and one in the section on Personal Life. Felsenst ( talk) 11:56, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
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Original text: "On 6 May 1885 she married her former teacher, and thereafter assisted him with experiments in physics and electricity." Please may I suggest that in the above sentence the word "assisted" be replaced by "collaborated with" so that the sentence then reads: "On 6 May 1885 she married her former teacher, and thereafter collaborated with him with experiments in physics and electricity." The reason for my suggestion is that this will describe Hertha Ayton as an equal rather than a subordinate to her husband. Ninianne42 ( talk) 11:58, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
uhm.. srsly how can this be an ethnicity? It is max a Religious POV but ethnicity? She is clearly white.. so caucasian or something else -- Nimbrod ( talk) 12:15, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Hertha Ayrton was Jewish on both her mother and father's side. It appears that she is unambiguously Jewish. One can argue that being Jewish is cultural, or religious, or ethnic. However, there is no need to have that argument in this biography, as she herself does not appear to have contested or repudiated her Judaism. See the biography of her written circa 1926, within three years of her death.
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Why is her first name sometimes used when referring to her scientific achievements, e.g. "Hertha registered 26 patents" instead of "Ayrton registered 26 patents"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.204.29.4 ( talk) 13:57, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
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Add in the Google Doodle template for today (4/28/2016) at the top of the page. RainbowBounce ( talk) 14:28, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Might be a good idea to have more info on what it was, found a picture and more neutral assessment of its use in wartime [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.76.64.234 ( talk) 18:50, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
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BBC Radio 4 " Science Stories " series 4 - " The Woman Who Tamed Lightening " - 28mins - available to hear until 18th January
In the 1870s with a degree from Cambridge University, Herta Marks was making a living teaching and inventing. She sold maths puzzles to magazines and designed a draftsman's device which divided lines into equal parts and enlarged or shrank drawings. The "Marks' Patent Line Divider" was very well reviewed. Herta had worked much of her early life as her father had died when she was seven leaving the family with debts.
Still eager to learn, Hertha Marks signed up for a series of classes about the exciting new field of electricity at Finsbury Technical College, taught by William Ayrton. She went on to marry William Ayrton. Her marriage gave her the stability and income to be able to do more inventing. Arc lights had started to be use as street lighting but they flickered and could send out sparks that caused fires. Herta Marks Ayrton found a way to make safer arc lights.
Naomi Alderman tells the story of Herta Marks Ayrton. She talks to Dr Naomi Paxton, cultural historian at the University of London, about the impact of the invention of safe street lighting on women's lives at the start of the 20th century, and to Naomi Climer, the first female president of the Institution of Engineering and Technology, which - unlike the Royal Society - was quick to acknowledge Hertha Marks Ayrton's achievements, about the legacy of arc lighting. DaiSaw ( talk) 21:28, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
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Ayrton was the subject of the BBC Radio 4 series "Great Lives" on January 2 2018, on which it was mentioned that she went on hunger strike. This is surely interesting enough to go in the article. Vorbee ( talk) 16:52, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
I believe the link to "Divider Caliper" for her invention of "line divider" is incorrect. The actual device she invented is not a caliper; it looks like this: http://journal.sciencemuseum.ac.uk/browse/issue-10/the-life-and-material-culture-of-hertha-ayrton/figure-3/
Learning the mathematics necessary to become a scientist or engineer is not a sufficient basis to call someone a "mathematician".
What is the evidence that Ayrton was a mathematician?
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There are inconsistencies on her date of death. At the beginning of the article is states 23 August 1923. Under "Later life and research" and other sources states her death was on 26 August 1923. sike
Regarr (
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There is an RfC on the question of using "Religion: None" vs. "Religion: None (atheist)" in the infobox on this and other similar pages.
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Please help us determine consensus on this issue. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 06:27, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Within the text it is claimed she died in North Lancing, Sussex; in the infobox in Bexhill-on-Sea. Does anyone know which is accurate? -- RedHillian | Talk 23:38, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hello ther don't you find strange that the biography of this lady has " ethnicity = Jewish". Scientifically speaking ethnicity is a social construction to divide homo sapiens in separate groups. 2dly I do not see any other biographies have ethnicity, why do this lady? As I said the concept is ambiguous and If wiki wants to conmemorate women in sciences, why do put ethnicity in the small square at the right? thinking as I said before, that no other biographies have it. txs
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In September 2013, the former Somers Park Primary School in Portsmouth became an Academy and was renamed Ark Ayrton Primary Academy in her honour.
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I am not an authority on Hertha Marks Ayrton by any stretch, but I noticed an inconsistency regarding the origin of her assumed name: the short video of her life which I found here: [1] details a character named Hertha in the eponymously named feminist novel by the Finnish feminist Frederika Bremer. Perhaps both theories could be noted? Tallen387 ( talk) 11:56, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
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It sounds as if she got married twice, both times to the same man: once in the section on Mathematics and Electrical Engineering Work and one in the section on Personal Life. Felsenst ( talk) 11:56, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
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Original text: "On 6 May 1885 she married her former teacher, and thereafter assisted him with experiments in physics and electricity." Please may I suggest that in the above sentence the word "assisted" be replaced by "collaborated with" so that the sentence then reads: "On 6 May 1885 she married her former teacher, and thereafter collaborated with him with experiments in physics and electricity." The reason for my suggestion is that this will describe Hertha Ayton as an equal rather than a subordinate to her husband. Ninianne42 ( talk) 11:58, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
uhm.. srsly how can this be an ethnicity? It is max a Religious POV but ethnicity? She is clearly white.. so caucasian or something else -- Nimbrod ( talk) 12:15, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Hertha Ayrton was Jewish on both her mother and father's side. It appears that she is unambiguously Jewish. One can argue that being Jewish is cultural, or religious, or ethnic. However, there is no need to have that argument in this biography, as she herself does not appear to have contested or repudiated her Judaism. See the biography of her written circa 1926, within three years of her death.
66.195.223.214 (
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Why is her first name sometimes used when referring to her scientific achievements, e.g. "Hertha registered 26 patents" instead of "Ayrton registered 26 patents"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.204.29.4 ( talk) 13:57, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
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Add in the Google Doodle template for today (4/28/2016) at the top of the page. RainbowBounce ( talk) 14:28, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Might be a good idea to have more info on what it was, found a picture and more neutral assessment of its use in wartime [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.76.64.234 ( talk) 18:50, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
References
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0858v5m
BBC Radio 4 " Science Stories " series 4 - " The Woman Who Tamed Lightening " - 28mins - available to hear until 18th January
In the 1870s with a degree from Cambridge University, Herta Marks was making a living teaching and inventing. She sold maths puzzles to magazines and designed a draftsman's device which divided lines into equal parts and enlarged or shrank drawings. The "Marks' Patent Line Divider" was very well reviewed. Herta had worked much of her early life as her father had died when she was seven leaving the family with debts.
Still eager to learn, Hertha Marks signed up for a series of classes about the exciting new field of electricity at Finsbury Technical College, taught by William Ayrton. She went on to marry William Ayrton. Her marriage gave her the stability and income to be able to do more inventing. Arc lights had started to be use as street lighting but they flickered and could send out sparks that caused fires. Herta Marks Ayrton found a way to make safer arc lights.
Naomi Alderman tells the story of Herta Marks Ayrton. She talks to Dr Naomi Paxton, cultural historian at the University of London, about the impact of the invention of safe street lighting on women's lives at the start of the 20th century, and to Naomi Climer, the first female president of the Institution of Engineering and Technology, which - unlike the Royal Society - was quick to acknowledge Hertha Marks Ayrton's achievements, about the legacy of arc lighting. DaiSaw ( talk) 21:28, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
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Ayrton was the subject of the BBC Radio 4 series "Great Lives" on January 2 2018, on which it was mentioned that she went on hunger strike. This is surely interesting enough to go in the article. Vorbee ( talk) 16:52, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
I believe the link to "Divider Caliper" for her invention of "line divider" is incorrect. The actual device she invented is not a caliper; it looks like this: http://journal.sciencemuseum.ac.uk/browse/issue-10/the-life-and-material-culture-of-hertha-ayrton/figure-3/
Learning the mathematics necessary to become a scientist or engineer is not a sufficient basis to call someone a "mathematician".
What is the evidence that Ayrton was a mathematician?
As far as I can tell, there is no such evidence currently in the article.