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The individual episode description articles describe the show as being a "supernatural drama". I take issue with the word "supernatural", because for me, the term suggests that this show involves ghosts or monsters. Do other editors feel that same way? Primogen 19:51, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
It's a Science Fiction drama. Supernatural is ghosts and demons and undead, and no amount of semantic wiggling or hand-waving will change that. When the show starts talking about ghosts and demons seriously, then I could start to consider it supernmatural. Just because it's not set in the future with spaceships and aliens, and just because there are fictional elements doens't mean it's not science fiction.-- Stabbey 16:23, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Matt is a mind reader, Isaac sees the future, Eden controlled minds, Sylar has telekinesis, Peter (among other things) is clairvoyant, Niki shares her body with the disembodied spirit of her dead twin sister who is otherwise in another realm, DL can travle through solid objects, Micah can change physical structures with his touch, Claire can come back from the dead, and Hiro travels through time under the direction of an outside force (otherwise he would not have ended up in fortuitous places he has. Let me know if this begins to sound paranormal or supernatural. Just because the the Sureshes say genes have something to do with it does not make it any more scientifically realistic than Charmed. Maybe their genes helped too. -- thatbobguy 04:14, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
What on earth? Popular culture says that supernatural means ghosts etc? I'm sorry but thats a load of rubbish, and tviv is a wiki and therefore not a reliable source. True, Ghosts/angels/demons/magic all fall under supernatural, but that doens't mean the entirety of Supernatural fiction is that. I'll stop now because we've gotten off topic. Jacobshaven3 20:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
This site has far more information than the one we're on!
http://heroeswiki.com/Main_Page
Check it out and make our site better
Tgunn2 06:05, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
All the plot points, graphic novels, and a lot of things about 9th wonders you don't know about!
None of it is seculation, Ace. Tgunn2 00:37, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Is there some reason this isn't in the external links? Any wikipedia page that has it's own wiki should get an external link mention. I've checked it out and it seems pretty good and even were it not yet good, it's a wiki, so it's inevitable. -- Jackdavinci 15:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
According to a number of news sources, George Takei will join Heroes as Hiro Nakamura's father. [1] [2] This is very exciting news, in my opinion. Where shoud this infomation be put in the article? dposse 03:12, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I saw this announcement a couple of days ago, and I thought that it was exciting news too, but I don't think it has a place in any of the articles yet. He should appear in cast for the articles on the episodes in which he will be appearing, once that is determined. Primogen 03:27, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
There used to be a nice organized table that listed the characters, there powers, and a picture of them. What happened to it? Now the character section on the main heroes page is less organized and harder to read. Will some one please bring it back.
The table was moved to the List of characters in Heroes article. The list that replaces it in this article is organized alphabetically and is written in prose. Primogen 01:26, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Anyone know who the artist is behind the prophetic paintings? Sure looks familiar, but I can't place it. Is it Tim Sale? - Kevingarcia 02:27, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, it's Sale. Avenger1000 03:44, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Why is Isaac's power still listed as being related to his heroin use? Peter mimicked his ability, fact. If Isaac's precognitive abilities were dependant on heroin or any other drug, Peter would have had to get high before he saw anything. I understand that you(other contributors and administrators) want things clearly spelled out before it's called fact in Wikipedia, but come on. Logical deduction should be considered valid. What is Peters power? He mimics others abillities, including details like receiving future 'visions' in the same exact form as Isaac, thus his being able to complete a painting for Isaac. Same vision, same form, if the ability was triggered by a substance, Peter would necessarily have had to ingest the same thing Isaac did to 'trigger' a vision. Therefore, I must ask that you(see above) please change the wording to reflect that Isaac's drug use is impairing his ability, not facilitating it. The heroin has left him unable to reach the state of mind necessary to view the future without it because of withdrawl. I would do the edit myself, but I'm both very new here and quite lazy:) Steveo9009 09:00, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
The line "He is a child prodigy and a technopath, although so far he has only used his abilities to temporarily repair an out-of-order pay phone" was just removed as OR. I don't think this is OR since we see him get a broken phone to work just by touching it. Is there really any doubt that this was the result of a power? How would "child prodigy" explain something that's physically impossible? I also think the Claire info should include the term "spontaneous regeneration" since that term was used on the show. -- Milo H Minderbinder 22:50, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
See extensive discussion on these topics at Talk:Micah Sanders and Talk:Claire Bennet. Primogen 22:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello. I just added IMDb to the external links section. MatthewFenton correctly pointed out that an IMDB link already existed in the info box. I do understand the desire to reduce duplicate information, but this seems a case where having the same information in two places seems logical--even helpful. I'm fairly Wiki savvy by now (though still learning), so I used the TOC to go directly to the External Links section. It never even occured to me to look near the top of the article on the right side of the page for the link. It also seems a bit of a double standard, because the "offical site" is listed in both places. I'm not arguing with Matthew's decision (he probably knows this article's history, and I do not), but I would like to understand the thought process here. Thanks! -- Willscrlt 12:57, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Currently, the line about Niki reads (emphasis mine): "Niki Sanders (Ali Larter) is a webcam stripper who lives in Las Vegas with an unrestrained alternate personality. When this other personality, a manifestation of Niki's dead sister, Jessica, takes over, she exhibits superhuman strength." It's speculation that it's a manifestation of Niki's dead sister. Yes, the Jessica persona seems to think that, but I don't think we've seen enough evidence to determine that "the real Jessica's" conciousness somehow got transferred to Niki. Stabbey 22:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Who in the hell removed my article. I like it back up please, now! 74.195.3.11 22:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
(comment deleted twice) This isn't a rumor/spoiler site, this isn't a place to chat, and discussion here should be on-topic, namely about the show in regards to the article. -- Milo H Minderbinder 21:08, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Now, you're deleting comments? Don't remove my stuff. You guys are either jealous or mad that someone knows something that you don't and I dont care what you have to say, Milo. 74.195.3.11 22:41, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Did I say it was a forum? You might as well call it that since its in that fashion. If not then what is it, then? Hmmm? You wanted sources and I flickin gave you your sources to you. What more could you ask? 74.195.3.11 13:51, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
You need too and it would if you opened yup your friggin ears. And it's not "my word," it's from E!, Entertainment Tonight, CNN, and NBC's site. God, get a grip/clue. 74.195.3.11 21:57, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Why, yes of course. 74.195.3.11 22:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Newcomer here. Got some interesting trivia that you may or may not have picked up. It relates to the first episode ("Genesis"), and occurs roughly in the 37th minute of the episode.
When Hiro and Ando walk into the bar to have a drink, two guys are singing karaoke on the stage to the Backstreet Boy's "I Want It That Way". This is a reference to a popular YouTube video [ "i want it that way spoof"] that features two Asian men doing a spoof performance of the same song. The men in the bar in Heroes are dressed in the same orange basketball jerseys, and one has a white sweatband around his head.
Ghostridah za 08:49, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
That's not a reference. I talk to the people who made that then also asked Jeph who works on the show and its just a coincidence. 74.195.3.11 13:52, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
"Ted Sprague doesn't emit heat as a power any more than Hiro has super speed. Ted emits radiation which can cause heat as a by product." - JacobsHaven3 Ted Sprague DOES emit heat and ionizing radiation. Saying he emits microwave radiation is speculation. He has heated doorknobs, computer keyboards, burned photographs. -- Stabbey 18:24, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Heat is not the same thing as ionizing radiation. Why is this fact such a contraversial idea? -- Stabbey 04:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Newcomer here. May or may not be relevant, but any undergraduate chemistry or geology student will tell you that heat is a byproduct of radiation- this is why the earth's mantle and core are so hot (radioactive decay). Ted is explicitly mentioned in the show as emitting radiation AND heating things up. To say that he can control one and not the other is contradiction in terms- they are not one and the same thing, but they are a cause and an affect. The reason he doesn't burn up everything around him all the time while radiating is because it takes a certain amount of radiation to excite the molecules in surrounding matter, and since he is not always radiating at high levels, this only happens when he gets excited.
I think it is correct to say that he has the power to "emit radiation" and perhaps adding "thereby inducing heat, radiation poisoning, and other side effects of radioactivity". ( Ricyteach 12:42, 4 December 2006 (UTC))
Not an obvious connection? Are you kidding? It's obvious to anyone who paid attention in high school chemistry OR high school physics. I'm an average person and I saw the connection immediately Ted started causing the water to heat up, burned the nurses arm, caused the dosimeter to change colour (comeon dude, can't get more obvious than that - they detect radiation above a "safe" background level) and induced bone cancer in his wife. Seeing all that, I remarked "Cool, this guy can emit ionizing radiation from his hands!" Maybe I'm just more intelligent/more observant than the average Joe but I definitely would qualify as "the average person". And Ted himself doesn't produce the heat. The heat is INDUCED by the radiation he emits, just like electricity is induced by fluctuations in a magnetic field. To say that he produced it when it's a secondary by-product at best would be wrong - and this has already been pointed out several times to you. If you're going to bow out, then really bow out. 59.100.99.169 21:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
There's a new article called List of Heroes that's basically just another character list, which we already have a better version of. I'm starting the deletion ball rolling with a proposed deletion. -- Milo H Minderbinder 19:47, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Those six articles need the Narration by Mohinder Suresh either added or expanded. If anyone out there has the episodes recorded, please add the Narration beginning and ending to all six of those articles. thanks. dposse 20:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I've got someone to transcribe narration for some of the episodes. You can get the missing narration for Genesis, Collision, Hiros and Better Halves" from The TVIV Wiki, since all you're taking is the direct quotes from the show. Of course, other information requires attribution. Technically I think the narration is by Mohinder Suresh, not the actor Sendhil Ramamurthy because Sendhil doesn't naturally have the accent Mohinder has, but it's a minor point. -- Stabbey 19:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Guys, here is a list of all main characters and their appearances so far, so you can check my changes.
Claire 11 (All); Hiro 11 (All); Micah 10 (All except ep 8); Mr. Bennet 10 (All except ep 7); Niki 10 (All except ep 8); Peter 10 (All except ep 8); Isaac 9 (All except eps 7 and 10); Mohinder 9 (All except eps 7 and 10); Nathan 9 (All except eps 6 and 8); Matt 8 (All except eps 1, 6, 9); Eden 8 (All except eps 1, 5, 7); DL 6 (Eps 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11); Simone 6 (Eps 1-4, 7, 9); Haitian 6 (Eps 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11); Sylar 5 (Eps 3, 8, 9, 10, 11) Renenarciso 18:32, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
I reverted a change that said that Mr. Bennett has the power to block other heros' powers and that the Haitian is just a cover. This is speculation. There are no facts to support this. If there is, please provide a citation.-- NMajdan• talk 20:46, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
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7 December 2006 - Clues to support that Mr.Bennett has the power to block are as follows.
examples taken from various source's, that the Haitian is misdirection.
from signed git 7 December 2006
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This is all good example of why Wikipedians don't do research, including analysis of a published work (in this case, a TV show). We will say he has a power when we're told directly and unmistakeably that he has a power. Primogen 19:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
BTW, I've need the same things about Bennet's powers posted on the talk pages of three separate articles now. Let's bring this discussion to Talk:Mr. Bennet (Heroes)#Power, or some kind of Tech? so we don't have to post the same thing in three places. Primogen 19:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Git you said that the Haitian has two powers, so then Hiro would have three powers time travel, stopping time and teleportation. As for Mr. Bennet, it could be that the Haitian put a mental block on Sylar, Matt Parkman and Eden from using thier powers on Mr. Bennet. IG-2000 07:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
The Haitian has one power too, and both the mind wiping and the power negation are facets of this one power. If I had to say what power the Haitian has I'd say it's the ability to shut down mental processes, be they memories, mental powers, or maybe even consciousness (it seems like he was the one who knocked Sylar down in that hill). Renenarciso 12:09, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
I have just removed (for the third time) a paragraph comparing Eden's powers to similar powers seen in Dune. I was asked by Otto4711 to cite the guideline that prohibits this type of comparison. Here is a quote from the Guide to Writing Better Articles: "The most readable articles contain a minimum of irrelevant (or only loosely relevant!) information."
Dune characters have some similarity here, that is true. But the subject at hand is emphatically Eden McCain, and not anything else. If we allow the Heroes articles to wander into these sorts of comparisons, they will soon become filled with other similarities to every comic book, movie, manga, etc that any editor feels has a passing resemblance to the subject at hand. Therefore, I, and other editors, will continue to remove such comparisons. 209.103.222.35 20:11, 7 December 2006 (UTC) Brent
Shouldn't The Haitian powers be memoeries wipe and the power to cancel othe powers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.16.89.117 ( talk) 23:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC).
See Talk:The Haitian#His power description. Primogen 01:40, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Would a link to NBC's page where you can see all the episodes be considered spam? Each episode is divided into about six parts, and you have to watch an ad at the beginning of each. Prome theus -X303- 05:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
The article states he joined the cast in episode 5. However, by appearing in promotional stuff before the series even started, it's clear he was cast quite some time ago, but only first appeared in episode 5. This should be reflected in the article. ThuranX 21:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I wrote the original paragraph on the number of actors in the full-time cast after reading so many complaints about why "Ando" or "Sylar" isn't listed among the main cast. I originally wrote that the NBC cast page lists 10 actors, not counting Leonard Roberts, who did not appear until in the 5th episode but who was the eleventh member of the full-time cast. (Later, Jack Coleman was upgraded from a recurring role to become the twelfth full-time castmember as of the 11th episode). However, someone else inserted the bit about "and promotional materials" in reference to the ten that are listed on the NBC site. So, I rewote it again, and I hope now it is both clear and accurate in explaining why there are exactly 12 main characters: the ten on the NBC cast page, plus Roberts and Coleman. Primogen 22:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello! Heroes will be shown in the UK in February on the SCI FI channel. I work for SCI FI, and I believe this is relevent and useful information for this Heroes page (particularly for the significant number of readers based in the UK). It is factually correct, most importantly. I suggest mentioning it in the introductory paragraphs. Indeed, I already entered it, but it was deleted. Please let me know what objections there may be to this addition. SCI FI UK 16:55, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I never said anything about malice, I said it's exploitive. I never said 'obviously' either. I simply informed him that wikipedia has rules about such conflicts of interest. ThuranX 23:54, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Most other articles about shows and movies on wikipedia have the air/release dates of the show/movie in other countries. The article for the British show Dr. Who mentions the premiere of the show on the American Scifi channel, so does that mean that info should be deleted? I don't see a problem with a blurb about the premiere of the show in the UK, not everything revolves around us Americans. IG-2000 10:13, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
How about as a compromise, we move the international broadcasters table higher in the page so they come right after the lead? Kyaa the Catlord 10:54, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
A user recently tried to add this issue with the series. While his attempt was poorly worded, steeped in POV and OR, it's valid information about the show, and someone should add it in soon. ThuranX 23:20, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
The show isn't about someone being gay, and I don't see the point of making a big deal about it on the main page. Show's like "Will & Grace" and "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" has kinda made the whole gay character thing, "so last year." IG-2000 09:15, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Today I created archive #9 for our main Heroes talk page. Hurray for us working actively on the WP pages for a great show! The top section of our talk page has a lot of info boxes, however. (Sorry, not sure of the proper name for those boxes.) Can any of the boxes be moved or removed? fmmarianicolon | Talk 23:39, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
According to a number of news sources, George Takei will join Heroes as Hiro Nakamura's father. [6] [7] This is very exciting news, in my opinion. Where shoud this infomation be put in the article? dposse 03:12, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Those six articles need the Narration by Mohinder Suresh either added or expanded. If anyone out there has the episodes recorded, please add the Narration beginning and ending to all six of those articles. thanks. dposse 20:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
He is a technopath. What other power could repair a telephone? Nikki never said outright "I have super strength" but we know she does. Micah does not have to outright say his power for us to know what it is. It should be allowed to put that Micah is in fact a technopath 71.253.41.191 13:33, 25 December 2006 (UTC)December 25, 2006
I would ask for people to check this interview out: http://www.comicspodcasts.com/?p=500, when asked if Micah could "communicate with machines and electronics", a writer said "Yes", now as far as I'm aware, that is what Technopathy means. Is this enough of a source to finally put Technopathy as the power? Jacobshaven3 21:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Should we do something about the Haitian's symbol? Like...move it to his article? It's only appeared a few times, only on two people. It can't be considered a "symbol of the series" like the RNA S. I was iffy about the placement here to be begin with, and now it just seems like some misplaced, largely irrelevant detail meant for another article. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 20:46, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
How can you make a judgement like this during the hiatus? Wait until after the hiatus, or wait until we know more, before removing it. Now, i'm replacing it because it is part of the Heroes plot. dposse 18:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
As I'm the one who added it, I added itto the main article with the intent of noting it as it was currently known. NO one has been able to explain the RNA either. Until we are sure that the parallel lines aren't a 'symbol' in the direct sense, but resultant scars after surgery, or something else, leave it here. The producers of the show saw fit to focus the cameras on it and to have Matt Parkman (the cop) notice the similarity in a clear, unambiguous manner. That said, Leaaving it here until it's explained makes far more sense to me. Once we can explain or dismiss it, then we can adust it. ThuranX 19:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
It's fairly common to use the {{USA}} template in infoboxes. That's why the template exists. What exactly is it harming? - SigmaEpsilon → Σ Ε 04:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
I have just finished going through every Heroes article I could find and tagging all the images with Category:Heroes Images. While doing this I noticed that most if not all of the images lack a description and more importantly lack fair use rational. Because of this many of the images have already been tagged for deletion. I'm fixing to head to bed so someone else is going to need to take aver from here but at least all the images are in one place now. -- Argash | talk | contribs 12:17, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Removed cfdnotice, cfd has completed. -- Kbdank71 15:19, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
This press release for the debut of Heroes on New Zealand's TV3 quotes Tim Kring on being influenced by The Incredibles and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind when creating the show's idea. I thought about adding this to the article, but I don't see where it would fit well. Should the information be added or not? If so, where should we add it? fmmarianicolon | Talk 19:17, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Do you think that the Heroes Wiki has "a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors"? I want to add the website to the links section, but not before I know that it meets Wikipedia:External_links. -- Joshtek 02:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
“ | Peter believes he has a greater place in life than just saving one person at a time, and he's willing to sacrifice himself to save the world.
His brother, Nathan, seems to disapprove of Peter's choice to become a nurse. Nathan also considers Peter the less favored son of their father. |
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Threatening to notify an admin if it's added again? Don't be ridiculous. I think you guys are misinterpreting WP:EL and mostly resorting to WP:IDONTLIKEIT. It's hypocritical to complain about lack of citiations when most Heroes articles here on wikipedia (and the vast majority of TV articles) use few if any citations. Which isn't necessarily that big a deal since the show itself is the primary source. External sources aren't required to follow all the wikipedia policies, just meet EL, and that wiki does seem to contain info beyond what is here, and generally be factually correct (which is the relevant criteria for linking, not whether they use citations like wikipedia). This seems to be a fairly common attitude in the wp TV articles, an unwillingness to link to other unofficial sites (maybe out of a sense of rivalry?), whether a link is appropriate or not. -- Milo H Minderbinder 13:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I was reading clair's power definition on this article and I saw that it said that she had the power of spontaneous regeneration. Spontaneous is something that happens randomly regeneration is the restoring back of what previously was there. These these terms do not explain clair's powers at all, she can't randomly heal, she is healed when she is hurt. Can we change this to the power of accelerated healing. 12.218.84.165 07:24, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
1. Self generated; happening without any apparent external cause. 2. Done by one's own free choice, or without planning. 3. proceeding from natural feeling or native tendency without external constraint 4. arising from a momentary impulse 5. controlled and directed internally : self-active : spontaneous movement characteristic of living things 6. produced without being planted or without human labor : indigenous 7. not apparently contrived or manipulated : natural 8. Random; sudden, without warning
Her power is self generated (1), without planning (2), arises from a momentary impulse (4), produced without human labor (5), not apparently manipulated (6), sudden, without warning (8). Her power seems to satisfy 6 of the 8 definitions for spontaneous. I would say her power could be called spontaneous. PureSoldier 08:34, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
This might be a better question for the Help Desk, but since it applies to this article I wanted to ask here: What is the guideline for how often to wikilink? For example, in the "Characters" section Leonard and Jack's names are not wikilinked next to their characters because the wikilinks are in the intro paragraph. However, Isaac is wikilinked twice in the same section ("Symbols"). Sylar is wikilinked in "Plot" and then later in "Symbols". Is it OK to wikilink twice in different sections of the same page, or should a name only be wikilinked once in an article? fmmarianicolon | Talk 17:53, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Well there is a current problem with the fact that external links cannot be added. When will this change as this policy is not adopted for other TV shows so why this one? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.44.163.54 ( talk) 19:55, 9 January 2007 (UTC).
Has anyone noticed the "Heroes" main page recently? There have been some inflammatory changes to some of the by-lines and descriptions e.g. "Lack of Plot," "Rectal Links," and the ongoing war of words concerning the title card appearing on the main page. It appears completely unprofessional.
Regarding character development, can someone offer me any reason as to why Simone is listed with the main characters? If anything, her presence is more of a recurring role than that of Mr. Bennett (HRG). Sure, she was around from the beginning, but her relationship with Peter Petrelli adds nothing to the plot or character development for either Simone, Peter or Isaac. I feel that her entry on the "characters" page should be moved to the main article "List of Heroes Characters," only and not referenced here.
Also, because of the duality of Nikki/Jessica Sanders, I propose renaming her link as Nikki/Jessica Sanders.
Thank you.
Kcvocals 22:10, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that would be me. Take your unprofessionalism and turn to God, the one true judge. — Preceding
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Isn't that irrelevant?-- St.daniel 02:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
.. was deleted via AfD (with no actual consensus for deletion) - I've started a DRV here. thanks/ Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 14:45, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I have been noticing lots of Heroes jokes and references in various US programs shown on Australian television lately. Should there be a == Heroes (TV Series)#Heroes in popular culture section, as other (granted longer running) tv shows have, and also has this already been discussed? The specific ref i saw that prompted me to post was on E!'s Daily Ten program, where Debbie Matenopoulos said in reference to Patrick Dempsey getting preventative marriage counselling, "Save the marriage, save the world" WookMuff 09:15, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Under the links the official Heroes Myspace page is actually http://www.myspace.com/heroesofficial and not http://www.myspace.com/NBC_Heroes. NwrksBigBoss 20:39, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Just wanted to say, unless we know Mr. Bennett's First name, then "Bennett" comes before "Bennett, Claire", Alphabetically speaking WookMuff 23:46, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be a lot of edits where people have changed the season of Sylar and Ando. They are constantly being reverted, and a small edit war has started. Can we do anything to stop this vandalism? Wikirocks 07:56, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
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The individual episode description articles describe the show as being a "supernatural drama". I take issue with the word "supernatural", because for me, the term suggests that this show involves ghosts or monsters. Do other editors feel that same way? Primogen 19:51, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
It's a Science Fiction drama. Supernatural is ghosts and demons and undead, and no amount of semantic wiggling or hand-waving will change that. When the show starts talking about ghosts and demons seriously, then I could start to consider it supernmatural. Just because it's not set in the future with spaceships and aliens, and just because there are fictional elements doens't mean it's not science fiction.-- Stabbey 16:23, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Matt is a mind reader, Isaac sees the future, Eden controlled minds, Sylar has telekinesis, Peter (among other things) is clairvoyant, Niki shares her body with the disembodied spirit of her dead twin sister who is otherwise in another realm, DL can travle through solid objects, Micah can change physical structures with his touch, Claire can come back from the dead, and Hiro travels through time under the direction of an outside force (otherwise he would not have ended up in fortuitous places he has. Let me know if this begins to sound paranormal or supernatural. Just because the the Sureshes say genes have something to do with it does not make it any more scientifically realistic than Charmed. Maybe their genes helped too. -- thatbobguy 04:14, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
What on earth? Popular culture says that supernatural means ghosts etc? I'm sorry but thats a load of rubbish, and tviv is a wiki and therefore not a reliable source. True, Ghosts/angels/demons/magic all fall under supernatural, but that doens't mean the entirety of Supernatural fiction is that. I'll stop now because we've gotten off topic. Jacobshaven3 20:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
This site has far more information than the one we're on!
http://heroeswiki.com/Main_Page
Check it out and make our site better
Tgunn2 06:05, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
All the plot points, graphic novels, and a lot of things about 9th wonders you don't know about!
None of it is seculation, Ace. Tgunn2 00:37, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Is there some reason this isn't in the external links? Any wikipedia page that has it's own wiki should get an external link mention. I've checked it out and it seems pretty good and even were it not yet good, it's a wiki, so it's inevitable. -- Jackdavinci 15:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
According to a number of news sources, George Takei will join Heroes as Hiro Nakamura's father. [1] [2] This is very exciting news, in my opinion. Where shoud this infomation be put in the article? dposse 03:12, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I saw this announcement a couple of days ago, and I thought that it was exciting news too, but I don't think it has a place in any of the articles yet. He should appear in cast for the articles on the episodes in which he will be appearing, once that is determined. Primogen 03:27, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
There used to be a nice organized table that listed the characters, there powers, and a picture of them. What happened to it? Now the character section on the main heroes page is less organized and harder to read. Will some one please bring it back.
The table was moved to the List of characters in Heroes article. The list that replaces it in this article is organized alphabetically and is written in prose. Primogen 01:26, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Anyone know who the artist is behind the prophetic paintings? Sure looks familiar, but I can't place it. Is it Tim Sale? - Kevingarcia 02:27, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, it's Sale. Avenger1000 03:44, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Why is Isaac's power still listed as being related to his heroin use? Peter mimicked his ability, fact. If Isaac's precognitive abilities were dependant on heroin or any other drug, Peter would have had to get high before he saw anything. I understand that you(other contributors and administrators) want things clearly spelled out before it's called fact in Wikipedia, but come on. Logical deduction should be considered valid. What is Peters power? He mimics others abillities, including details like receiving future 'visions' in the same exact form as Isaac, thus his being able to complete a painting for Isaac. Same vision, same form, if the ability was triggered by a substance, Peter would necessarily have had to ingest the same thing Isaac did to 'trigger' a vision. Therefore, I must ask that you(see above) please change the wording to reflect that Isaac's drug use is impairing his ability, not facilitating it. The heroin has left him unable to reach the state of mind necessary to view the future without it because of withdrawl. I would do the edit myself, but I'm both very new here and quite lazy:) Steveo9009 09:00, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
The line "He is a child prodigy and a technopath, although so far he has only used his abilities to temporarily repair an out-of-order pay phone" was just removed as OR. I don't think this is OR since we see him get a broken phone to work just by touching it. Is there really any doubt that this was the result of a power? How would "child prodigy" explain something that's physically impossible? I also think the Claire info should include the term "spontaneous regeneration" since that term was used on the show. -- Milo H Minderbinder 22:50, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
See extensive discussion on these topics at Talk:Micah Sanders and Talk:Claire Bennet. Primogen 22:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello. I just added IMDb to the external links section. MatthewFenton correctly pointed out that an IMDB link already existed in the info box. I do understand the desire to reduce duplicate information, but this seems a case where having the same information in two places seems logical--even helpful. I'm fairly Wiki savvy by now (though still learning), so I used the TOC to go directly to the External Links section. It never even occured to me to look near the top of the article on the right side of the page for the link. It also seems a bit of a double standard, because the "offical site" is listed in both places. I'm not arguing with Matthew's decision (he probably knows this article's history, and I do not), but I would like to understand the thought process here. Thanks! -- Willscrlt 12:57, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Currently, the line about Niki reads (emphasis mine): "Niki Sanders (Ali Larter) is a webcam stripper who lives in Las Vegas with an unrestrained alternate personality. When this other personality, a manifestation of Niki's dead sister, Jessica, takes over, she exhibits superhuman strength." It's speculation that it's a manifestation of Niki's dead sister. Yes, the Jessica persona seems to think that, but I don't think we've seen enough evidence to determine that "the real Jessica's" conciousness somehow got transferred to Niki. Stabbey 22:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Who in the hell removed my article. I like it back up please, now! 74.195.3.11 22:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
(comment deleted twice) This isn't a rumor/spoiler site, this isn't a place to chat, and discussion here should be on-topic, namely about the show in regards to the article. -- Milo H Minderbinder 21:08, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Now, you're deleting comments? Don't remove my stuff. You guys are either jealous or mad that someone knows something that you don't and I dont care what you have to say, Milo. 74.195.3.11 22:41, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Did I say it was a forum? You might as well call it that since its in that fashion. If not then what is it, then? Hmmm? You wanted sources and I flickin gave you your sources to you. What more could you ask? 74.195.3.11 13:51, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
You need too and it would if you opened yup your friggin ears. And it's not "my word," it's from E!, Entertainment Tonight, CNN, and NBC's site. God, get a grip/clue. 74.195.3.11 21:57, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Why, yes of course. 74.195.3.11 22:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Newcomer here. Got some interesting trivia that you may or may not have picked up. It relates to the first episode ("Genesis"), and occurs roughly in the 37th minute of the episode.
When Hiro and Ando walk into the bar to have a drink, two guys are singing karaoke on the stage to the Backstreet Boy's "I Want It That Way". This is a reference to a popular YouTube video [ "i want it that way spoof"] that features two Asian men doing a spoof performance of the same song. The men in the bar in Heroes are dressed in the same orange basketball jerseys, and one has a white sweatband around his head.
Ghostridah za 08:49, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
That's not a reference. I talk to the people who made that then also asked Jeph who works on the show and its just a coincidence. 74.195.3.11 13:52, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
"Ted Sprague doesn't emit heat as a power any more than Hiro has super speed. Ted emits radiation which can cause heat as a by product." - JacobsHaven3 Ted Sprague DOES emit heat and ionizing radiation. Saying he emits microwave radiation is speculation. He has heated doorknobs, computer keyboards, burned photographs. -- Stabbey 18:24, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Heat is not the same thing as ionizing radiation. Why is this fact such a contraversial idea? -- Stabbey 04:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Newcomer here. May or may not be relevant, but any undergraduate chemistry or geology student will tell you that heat is a byproduct of radiation- this is why the earth's mantle and core are so hot (radioactive decay). Ted is explicitly mentioned in the show as emitting radiation AND heating things up. To say that he can control one and not the other is contradiction in terms- they are not one and the same thing, but they are a cause and an affect. The reason he doesn't burn up everything around him all the time while radiating is because it takes a certain amount of radiation to excite the molecules in surrounding matter, and since he is not always radiating at high levels, this only happens when he gets excited.
I think it is correct to say that he has the power to "emit radiation" and perhaps adding "thereby inducing heat, radiation poisoning, and other side effects of radioactivity". ( Ricyteach 12:42, 4 December 2006 (UTC))
Not an obvious connection? Are you kidding? It's obvious to anyone who paid attention in high school chemistry OR high school physics. I'm an average person and I saw the connection immediately Ted started causing the water to heat up, burned the nurses arm, caused the dosimeter to change colour (comeon dude, can't get more obvious than that - they detect radiation above a "safe" background level) and induced bone cancer in his wife. Seeing all that, I remarked "Cool, this guy can emit ionizing radiation from his hands!" Maybe I'm just more intelligent/more observant than the average Joe but I definitely would qualify as "the average person". And Ted himself doesn't produce the heat. The heat is INDUCED by the radiation he emits, just like electricity is induced by fluctuations in a magnetic field. To say that he produced it when it's a secondary by-product at best would be wrong - and this has already been pointed out several times to you. If you're going to bow out, then really bow out. 59.100.99.169 21:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
There's a new article called List of Heroes that's basically just another character list, which we already have a better version of. I'm starting the deletion ball rolling with a proposed deletion. -- Milo H Minderbinder 19:47, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Those six articles need the Narration by Mohinder Suresh either added or expanded. If anyone out there has the episodes recorded, please add the Narration beginning and ending to all six of those articles. thanks. dposse 20:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I've got someone to transcribe narration for some of the episodes. You can get the missing narration for Genesis, Collision, Hiros and Better Halves" from The TVIV Wiki, since all you're taking is the direct quotes from the show. Of course, other information requires attribution. Technically I think the narration is by Mohinder Suresh, not the actor Sendhil Ramamurthy because Sendhil doesn't naturally have the accent Mohinder has, but it's a minor point. -- Stabbey 19:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Guys, here is a list of all main characters and their appearances so far, so you can check my changes.
Claire 11 (All); Hiro 11 (All); Micah 10 (All except ep 8); Mr. Bennet 10 (All except ep 7); Niki 10 (All except ep 8); Peter 10 (All except ep 8); Isaac 9 (All except eps 7 and 10); Mohinder 9 (All except eps 7 and 10); Nathan 9 (All except eps 6 and 8); Matt 8 (All except eps 1, 6, 9); Eden 8 (All except eps 1, 5, 7); DL 6 (Eps 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11); Simone 6 (Eps 1-4, 7, 9); Haitian 6 (Eps 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11); Sylar 5 (Eps 3, 8, 9, 10, 11) Renenarciso 18:32, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
I reverted a change that said that Mr. Bennett has the power to block other heros' powers and that the Haitian is just a cover. This is speculation. There are no facts to support this. If there is, please provide a citation.-- NMajdan• talk 20:46, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
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7 December 2006 - Clues to support that Mr.Bennett has the power to block are as follows.
examples taken from various source's, that the Haitian is misdirection.
from signed git 7 December 2006
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This is all good example of why Wikipedians don't do research, including analysis of a published work (in this case, a TV show). We will say he has a power when we're told directly and unmistakeably that he has a power. Primogen 19:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
BTW, I've need the same things about Bennet's powers posted on the talk pages of three separate articles now. Let's bring this discussion to Talk:Mr. Bennet (Heroes)#Power, or some kind of Tech? so we don't have to post the same thing in three places. Primogen 19:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Git you said that the Haitian has two powers, so then Hiro would have three powers time travel, stopping time and teleportation. As for Mr. Bennet, it could be that the Haitian put a mental block on Sylar, Matt Parkman and Eden from using thier powers on Mr. Bennet. IG-2000 07:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
The Haitian has one power too, and both the mind wiping and the power negation are facets of this one power. If I had to say what power the Haitian has I'd say it's the ability to shut down mental processes, be they memories, mental powers, or maybe even consciousness (it seems like he was the one who knocked Sylar down in that hill). Renenarciso 12:09, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
I have just removed (for the third time) a paragraph comparing Eden's powers to similar powers seen in Dune. I was asked by Otto4711 to cite the guideline that prohibits this type of comparison. Here is a quote from the Guide to Writing Better Articles: "The most readable articles contain a minimum of irrelevant (or only loosely relevant!) information."
Dune characters have some similarity here, that is true. But the subject at hand is emphatically Eden McCain, and not anything else. If we allow the Heroes articles to wander into these sorts of comparisons, they will soon become filled with other similarities to every comic book, movie, manga, etc that any editor feels has a passing resemblance to the subject at hand. Therefore, I, and other editors, will continue to remove such comparisons. 209.103.222.35 20:11, 7 December 2006 (UTC) Brent
Shouldn't The Haitian powers be memoeries wipe and the power to cancel othe powers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.16.89.117 ( talk) 23:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC).
See Talk:The Haitian#His power description. Primogen 01:40, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Would a link to NBC's page where you can see all the episodes be considered spam? Each episode is divided into about six parts, and you have to watch an ad at the beginning of each. Prome theus -X303- 05:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
The article states he joined the cast in episode 5. However, by appearing in promotional stuff before the series even started, it's clear he was cast quite some time ago, but only first appeared in episode 5. This should be reflected in the article. ThuranX 21:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I wrote the original paragraph on the number of actors in the full-time cast after reading so many complaints about why "Ando" or "Sylar" isn't listed among the main cast. I originally wrote that the NBC cast page lists 10 actors, not counting Leonard Roberts, who did not appear until in the 5th episode but who was the eleventh member of the full-time cast. (Later, Jack Coleman was upgraded from a recurring role to become the twelfth full-time castmember as of the 11th episode). However, someone else inserted the bit about "and promotional materials" in reference to the ten that are listed on the NBC site. So, I rewote it again, and I hope now it is both clear and accurate in explaining why there are exactly 12 main characters: the ten on the NBC cast page, plus Roberts and Coleman. Primogen 22:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello! Heroes will be shown in the UK in February on the SCI FI channel. I work for SCI FI, and I believe this is relevent and useful information for this Heroes page (particularly for the significant number of readers based in the UK). It is factually correct, most importantly. I suggest mentioning it in the introductory paragraphs. Indeed, I already entered it, but it was deleted. Please let me know what objections there may be to this addition. SCI FI UK 16:55, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I never said anything about malice, I said it's exploitive. I never said 'obviously' either. I simply informed him that wikipedia has rules about such conflicts of interest. ThuranX 23:54, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Most other articles about shows and movies on wikipedia have the air/release dates of the show/movie in other countries. The article for the British show Dr. Who mentions the premiere of the show on the American Scifi channel, so does that mean that info should be deleted? I don't see a problem with a blurb about the premiere of the show in the UK, not everything revolves around us Americans. IG-2000 10:13, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
How about as a compromise, we move the international broadcasters table higher in the page so they come right after the lead? Kyaa the Catlord 10:54, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
A user recently tried to add this issue with the series. While his attempt was poorly worded, steeped in POV and OR, it's valid information about the show, and someone should add it in soon. ThuranX 23:20, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
The show isn't about someone being gay, and I don't see the point of making a big deal about it on the main page. Show's like "Will & Grace" and "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" has kinda made the whole gay character thing, "so last year." IG-2000 09:15, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Today I created archive #9 for our main Heroes talk page. Hurray for us working actively on the WP pages for a great show! The top section of our talk page has a lot of info boxes, however. (Sorry, not sure of the proper name for those boxes.) Can any of the boxes be moved or removed? fmmarianicolon | Talk 23:39, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
According to a number of news sources, George Takei will join Heroes as Hiro Nakamura's father. [6] [7] This is very exciting news, in my opinion. Where shoud this infomation be put in the article? dposse 03:12, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Those six articles need the Narration by Mohinder Suresh either added or expanded. If anyone out there has the episodes recorded, please add the Narration beginning and ending to all six of those articles. thanks. dposse 20:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
He is a technopath. What other power could repair a telephone? Nikki never said outright "I have super strength" but we know she does. Micah does not have to outright say his power for us to know what it is. It should be allowed to put that Micah is in fact a technopath 71.253.41.191 13:33, 25 December 2006 (UTC)December 25, 2006
I would ask for people to check this interview out: http://www.comicspodcasts.com/?p=500, when asked if Micah could "communicate with machines and electronics", a writer said "Yes", now as far as I'm aware, that is what Technopathy means. Is this enough of a source to finally put Technopathy as the power? Jacobshaven3 21:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Should we do something about the Haitian's symbol? Like...move it to his article? It's only appeared a few times, only on two people. It can't be considered a "symbol of the series" like the RNA S. I was iffy about the placement here to be begin with, and now it just seems like some misplaced, largely irrelevant detail meant for another article. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 20:46, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
How can you make a judgement like this during the hiatus? Wait until after the hiatus, or wait until we know more, before removing it. Now, i'm replacing it because it is part of the Heroes plot. dposse 18:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
As I'm the one who added it, I added itto the main article with the intent of noting it as it was currently known. NO one has been able to explain the RNA either. Until we are sure that the parallel lines aren't a 'symbol' in the direct sense, but resultant scars after surgery, or something else, leave it here. The producers of the show saw fit to focus the cameras on it and to have Matt Parkman (the cop) notice the similarity in a clear, unambiguous manner. That said, Leaaving it here until it's explained makes far more sense to me. Once we can explain or dismiss it, then we can adust it. ThuranX 19:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
It's fairly common to use the {{USA}} template in infoboxes. That's why the template exists. What exactly is it harming? - SigmaEpsilon → Σ Ε 04:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
I have just finished going through every Heroes article I could find and tagging all the images with Category:Heroes Images. While doing this I noticed that most if not all of the images lack a description and more importantly lack fair use rational. Because of this many of the images have already been tagged for deletion. I'm fixing to head to bed so someone else is going to need to take aver from here but at least all the images are in one place now. -- Argash | talk | contribs 12:17, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Removed cfdnotice, cfd has completed. -- Kbdank71 15:19, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
This press release for the debut of Heroes on New Zealand's TV3 quotes Tim Kring on being influenced by The Incredibles and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind when creating the show's idea. I thought about adding this to the article, but I don't see where it would fit well. Should the information be added or not? If so, where should we add it? fmmarianicolon | Talk 19:17, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Do you think that the Heroes Wiki has "a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors"? I want to add the website to the links section, but not before I know that it meets Wikipedia:External_links. -- Joshtek 02:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
“ | Peter believes he has a greater place in life than just saving one person at a time, and he's willing to sacrifice himself to save the world.
His brother, Nathan, seems to disapprove of Peter's choice to become a nurse. Nathan also considers Peter the less favored son of their father. |
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Threatening to notify an admin if it's added again? Don't be ridiculous. I think you guys are misinterpreting WP:EL and mostly resorting to WP:IDONTLIKEIT. It's hypocritical to complain about lack of citiations when most Heroes articles here on wikipedia (and the vast majority of TV articles) use few if any citations. Which isn't necessarily that big a deal since the show itself is the primary source. External sources aren't required to follow all the wikipedia policies, just meet EL, and that wiki does seem to contain info beyond what is here, and generally be factually correct (which is the relevant criteria for linking, not whether they use citations like wikipedia). This seems to be a fairly common attitude in the wp TV articles, an unwillingness to link to other unofficial sites (maybe out of a sense of rivalry?), whether a link is appropriate or not. -- Milo H Minderbinder 13:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I was reading clair's power definition on this article and I saw that it said that she had the power of spontaneous regeneration. Spontaneous is something that happens randomly regeneration is the restoring back of what previously was there. These these terms do not explain clair's powers at all, she can't randomly heal, she is healed when she is hurt. Can we change this to the power of accelerated healing. 12.218.84.165 07:24, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
1. Self generated; happening without any apparent external cause. 2. Done by one's own free choice, or without planning. 3. proceeding from natural feeling or native tendency without external constraint 4. arising from a momentary impulse 5. controlled and directed internally : self-active : spontaneous movement characteristic of living things 6. produced without being planted or without human labor : indigenous 7. not apparently contrived or manipulated : natural 8. Random; sudden, without warning
Her power is self generated (1), without planning (2), arises from a momentary impulse (4), produced without human labor (5), not apparently manipulated (6), sudden, without warning (8). Her power seems to satisfy 6 of the 8 definitions for spontaneous. I would say her power could be called spontaneous. PureSoldier 08:34, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
This might be a better question for the Help Desk, but since it applies to this article I wanted to ask here: What is the guideline for how often to wikilink? For example, in the "Characters" section Leonard and Jack's names are not wikilinked next to their characters because the wikilinks are in the intro paragraph. However, Isaac is wikilinked twice in the same section ("Symbols"). Sylar is wikilinked in "Plot" and then later in "Symbols". Is it OK to wikilink twice in different sections of the same page, or should a name only be wikilinked once in an article? fmmarianicolon | Talk 17:53, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Well there is a current problem with the fact that external links cannot be added. When will this change as this policy is not adopted for other TV shows so why this one? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.44.163.54 ( talk) 19:55, 9 January 2007 (UTC).
Has anyone noticed the "Heroes" main page recently? There have been some inflammatory changes to some of the by-lines and descriptions e.g. "Lack of Plot," "Rectal Links," and the ongoing war of words concerning the title card appearing on the main page. It appears completely unprofessional.
Regarding character development, can someone offer me any reason as to why Simone is listed with the main characters? If anything, her presence is more of a recurring role than that of Mr. Bennett (HRG). Sure, she was around from the beginning, but her relationship with Peter Petrelli adds nothing to the plot or character development for either Simone, Peter or Isaac. I feel that her entry on the "characters" page should be moved to the main article "List of Heroes Characters," only and not referenced here.
Also, because of the duality of Nikki/Jessica Sanders, I propose renaming her link as Nikki/Jessica Sanders.
Thank you.
Kcvocals 22:10, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that would be me. Take your unprofessionalism and turn to God, the one true judge. — Preceding
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Isn't that irrelevant?-- St.daniel 02:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
.. was deleted via AfD (with no actual consensus for deletion) - I've started a DRV here. thanks/ Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 14:45, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I have been noticing lots of Heroes jokes and references in various US programs shown on Australian television lately. Should there be a == Heroes (TV Series)#Heroes in popular culture section, as other (granted longer running) tv shows have, and also has this already been discussed? The specific ref i saw that prompted me to post was on E!'s Daily Ten program, where Debbie Matenopoulos said in reference to Patrick Dempsey getting preventative marriage counselling, "Save the marriage, save the world" WookMuff 09:15, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Under the links the official Heroes Myspace page is actually http://www.myspace.com/heroesofficial and not http://www.myspace.com/NBC_Heroes. NwrksBigBoss 20:39, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Just wanted to say, unless we know Mr. Bennett's First name, then "Bennett" comes before "Bennett, Claire", Alphabetically speaking WookMuff 23:46, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be a lot of edits where people have changed the season of Sylar and Ando. They are constantly being reverted, and a small edit war has started. Can we do anything to stop this vandalism? Wikirocks 07:56, 22 December 2007 (UTC)