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Well, if you folks stumble onto this article, you will see more additions to it. I am trying to get this article to the Wikipedia:Featured article candidates, so if you have any suggestions, issues, comments, anything, just let me know. Thanks, Zscout370 (Sound Off) 03:20, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
Ok, right now, I am going to compare this article and the criteria of an FA Candidate.
If there is anything else anyone wants to add, go right ahead, but I feel ok about it being FA. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 20:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
Well, a person mentioned we should have bios on all of the Heroes, since there is five of them (to my last count). The following people I have not found bios on.
Zscout370 (Sound Off) 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
I will try to get this section finished today. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 23:00, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
Why is the Russian name for the medal given, but not the Belarusian name? -- Angr/ comhrá 23:40, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
Łacinka: Translit: Pavał Maryjaŭ | Paval Maryyau Uładzimier Karvat | Uladzimer Karvat Alaksandar Dubko | Alyaksandar Dubko Michał Karčmit | Mikhal Karchmit Vital Kramko | (the same)
Score! Zscout370 (Sound Off) 05:17, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Everyone knows that Alexander Lukashenko is a very modest man, but I think his name should be mentioned in a more prominent place of the article. It would not only add credibility to the "Hero of Belarus" title but also put it in the right perspective for an unaware reader. Therefore I propose to mention in the second sentence that Alexander Lukashenko is awarding the title. Lysy 16:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I removed the picture, since I have no proof that he would have done that. It is just hypothetical, and plus, there was a special medal bar for those awarded two or more hero titles. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 23:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'd like to feature this on the main page, but I have a few requests I'd like to see fulfilled first:
This is only a recent, nonhistorical award created by a desperate government. How can we say it is rewarded for 'great deeds'? One could also say that some of the recipients look like complete hacks. I understand that we should neutrally discuss the medals and awards of different countries, but in this case, it needs a lot more context with the history of Soviet awards and the current situation in the country. Tfine80 15:05, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
I have to say I couldn't care less about this article. Problem is it's not appealing to me in any way. I'm a newbie and I don't know the exact rules around here, but I think that should be a major criteria for determining "Today's featured article". That is, well-written etc. is not enough, the subject should be universally interesting, IMO.
Just to say that one reason I enjoy reading featured articles, apart from the obvious quality, is learning about new subjects that I would most likely have never heard about otherwise. The large majority of featured articles I would only have the scarcest knowledge or be completely ignorant of. This article would fall into that category and I found it intertesting to read and learn of the medal. Of course if you don't feel the same then feel free not to read it. GreatGodOm 10:27, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
I also totally agree. No one neither inside Belarus, nor outside of the country could care less about that medal. I'm sorry that this was chosen as a featured article. I wish people spent their efforts on something more relevant. -- rydel 18:09, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
Even assuming that Luka is dictator, that all these people are fake heroes, etc., it is still an educational article, which, e.g., shows why people are officially awarded in Belarus. It is 100% encyclopedic for those interested in Belarus politics.
There was a long discussion about criteria for being featured. And it is not an oversight that importance or interestness of the topic is not one of them. Just the same, one might say that 90% of world population don't give a dime for Marshall, Texas (or I could pick here almost any other featured article) mikka (t) 20:26, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
I'm really surprised to see this article featured on the front page of Wikipedia. It's enough to do Google "Belarus dictatorship" to learn what a despot Lukashenko is. What's the value of a medal that is awarded by a dictator?
What's next? An article on "The Hero of the Democratic Republic of Korea"?
Bartosz 19:41, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
Bartosz 01:56, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
You probably are not very well aware of the hsitory of the country, also your education probably does not see hard toil as heroism. Like I see in America, the best hero is a gangster, a mafiozi, judging from the amount of movies about them. Looking into the list in the hero article, there are much more pokemon heroes than valiant people. Among other idealistic and utopic ideas, in the Soviet Union there was an attempt to instate valiant and selfless labor as a matter of heroism, to extend this notion beyond the ability to kick someone's else ass or to save a kitten from the fire. It was supposed to be a workers' state. There was a medal Hero of Socialist Labor. "Hero of Belarus" joins both military and civil awards of heroism. Ho one argues that often awards are misdirected, starting from Miss America. Now go away with your disparaging, presumptuous and arrogant remarks. I humbly suggest you to judge things where you are an expert and ask questions where you are not. mikka (t) 03:47, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
Why were they removed? They fairuse claim was obviously justified. Other reasons? -- Irpen 02:46, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
on 1st March Lukashenka gave 5 new "Hero Star"s - to Filaret, Savicki, Vysocki, Prokopovich & Reviako. Here [1] you can read in russian about this. -- Monkbel 10:22, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
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I have visited this article and also think that it is worth to be a featured article. But I want to warn the authors, that the information is out-of-date. Especially concerning Belarussian legislation. The Resolution N 3726-XII (its proper URL is now http://bankzakonov.com/obsch/razdel26/time1/lavz0438.htm) is outlawed and replaced by another law ( http://www.pravo.by/webnpa/text.asp?RN=H10400288). Thats why the link to the http://www.pravo.by doen't work now. If I had time I would do changes but I'm a bit busy now. May be only in 2-3 days. Some other references don't function too. P.S. Why the lisk of categories sometimes superimposes on my passege & if there are some difficulties with information in Russian I can help to find and to translate? SZv ( talk) 13:53, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
So I have decided to upgrade the article by myself. Those, who decided to visit the page, don't do any changes fo a while. SZv ( talk) 09:23, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Done. SZv ( talk) 15:59, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
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Well, if you folks stumble onto this article, you will see more additions to it. I am trying to get this article to the Wikipedia:Featured article candidates, so if you have any suggestions, issues, comments, anything, just let me know. Thanks, Zscout370 (Sound Off) 03:20, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
Ok, right now, I am going to compare this article and the criteria of an FA Candidate.
If there is anything else anyone wants to add, go right ahead, but I feel ok about it being FA. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 20:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
Well, a person mentioned we should have bios on all of the Heroes, since there is five of them (to my last count). The following people I have not found bios on.
Zscout370 (Sound Off) 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
I will try to get this section finished today. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 23:00, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
Why is the Russian name for the medal given, but not the Belarusian name? -- Angr/ comhrá 23:40, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
Łacinka: Translit: Pavał Maryjaŭ | Paval Maryyau Uładzimier Karvat | Uladzimer Karvat Alaksandar Dubko | Alyaksandar Dubko Michał Karčmit | Mikhal Karchmit Vital Kramko | (the same)
Score! Zscout370 (Sound Off) 05:17, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Everyone knows that Alexander Lukashenko is a very modest man, but I think his name should be mentioned in a more prominent place of the article. It would not only add credibility to the "Hero of Belarus" title but also put it in the right perspective for an unaware reader. Therefore I propose to mention in the second sentence that Alexander Lukashenko is awarding the title. Lysy 16:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I removed the picture, since I have no proof that he would have done that. It is just hypothetical, and plus, there was a special medal bar for those awarded two or more hero titles. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 23:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'd like to feature this on the main page, but I have a few requests I'd like to see fulfilled first:
This is only a recent, nonhistorical award created by a desperate government. How can we say it is rewarded for 'great deeds'? One could also say that some of the recipients look like complete hacks. I understand that we should neutrally discuss the medals and awards of different countries, but in this case, it needs a lot more context with the history of Soviet awards and the current situation in the country. Tfine80 15:05, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
I have to say I couldn't care less about this article. Problem is it's not appealing to me in any way. I'm a newbie and I don't know the exact rules around here, but I think that should be a major criteria for determining "Today's featured article". That is, well-written etc. is not enough, the subject should be universally interesting, IMO.
Just to say that one reason I enjoy reading featured articles, apart from the obvious quality, is learning about new subjects that I would most likely have never heard about otherwise. The large majority of featured articles I would only have the scarcest knowledge or be completely ignorant of. This article would fall into that category and I found it intertesting to read and learn of the medal. Of course if you don't feel the same then feel free not to read it. GreatGodOm 10:27, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
I also totally agree. No one neither inside Belarus, nor outside of the country could care less about that medal. I'm sorry that this was chosen as a featured article. I wish people spent their efforts on something more relevant. -- rydel 18:09, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
Even assuming that Luka is dictator, that all these people are fake heroes, etc., it is still an educational article, which, e.g., shows why people are officially awarded in Belarus. It is 100% encyclopedic for those interested in Belarus politics.
There was a long discussion about criteria for being featured. And it is not an oversight that importance or interestness of the topic is not one of them. Just the same, one might say that 90% of world population don't give a dime for Marshall, Texas (or I could pick here almost any other featured article) mikka (t) 20:26, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
I'm really surprised to see this article featured on the front page of Wikipedia. It's enough to do Google "Belarus dictatorship" to learn what a despot Lukashenko is. What's the value of a medal that is awarded by a dictator?
What's next? An article on "The Hero of the Democratic Republic of Korea"?
Bartosz 19:41, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
Bartosz 01:56, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
You probably are not very well aware of the hsitory of the country, also your education probably does not see hard toil as heroism. Like I see in America, the best hero is a gangster, a mafiozi, judging from the amount of movies about them. Looking into the list in the hero article, there are much more pokemon heroes than valiant people. Among other idealistic and utopic ideas, in the Soviet Union there was an attempt to instate valiant and selfless labor as a matter of heroism, to extend this notion beyond the ability to kick someone's else ass or to save a kitten from the fire. It was supposed to be a workers' state. There was a medal Hero of Socialist Labor. "Hero of Belarus" joins both military and civil awards of heroism. Ho one argues that often awards are misdirected, starting from Miss America. Now go away with your disparaging, presumptuous and arrogant remarks. I humbly suggest you to judge things where you are an expert and ask questions where you are not. mikka (t) 03:47, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
Why were they removed? They fairuse claim was obviously justified. Other reasons? -- Irpen 02:46, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
on 1st March Lukashenka gave 5 new "Hero Star"s - to Filaret, Savicki, Vysocki, Prokopovich & Reviako. Here [1] you can read in russian about this. -- Monkbel 10:22, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
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There are at least six disadvantages in using date-autoformatting, which I've capped here:
Removal has generally been met with positive responses by editors. I'm seeking feedback about this proposal to remove it from the main text (using a script) in about a week's time on a trial basis/ The original input formatting would be seen by all WPians, not just the huge number of visitors; it would be plain, unobtrusive text, which would give greater prominence to the high-value links. Tony (talk) 08:43, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I have visited this article and also think that it is worth to be a featured article. But I want to warn the authors, that the information is out-of-date. Especially concerning Belarussian legislation. The Resolution N 3726-XII (its proper URL is now http://bankzakonov.com/obsch/razdel26/time1/lavz0438.htm) is outlawed and replaced by another law ( http://www.pravo.by/webnpa/text.asp?RN=H10400288). Thats why the link to the http://www.pravo.by doen't work now. If I had time I would do changes but I'm a bit busy now. May be only in 2-3 days. Some other references don't function too. P.S. Why the lisk of categories sometimes superimposes on my passege & if there are some difficulties with information in Russian I can help to find and to translate? SZv ( talk) 13:53, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
So I have decided to upgrade the article by myself. Those, who decided to visit the page, don't do any changes fo a while. SZv ( talk) 09:23, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Done. SZv ( talk) 15:59, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
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