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Hey Nerd271, I appreciate you contributing a lot of content towards this physicist who is one of my favorites. You reverted my edit of removing a line `According to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Alzheimer's remained a leading cause of death in the United States in 2016.[10]'. My edit was with the notion that this line belongs to the page of Alzheimer's disease and not here.
Your explanation of reverting was `Previous edition was better'. Could you please tell me how writing about Alzheimer's disease in Herbert Callen's page is relevant to Herbert Callen? Mahesh gandikota ( talk) 06:15, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Maybe you imply by `at least those of us who are curious' that I am not curious. Everyone of us are curious. That's why you provided the link to Alzheimer's in this article. I totally agree with you on that. However, I still do not agree with you adding the line about Alzheimer's diseases in USA on the page of a physicist.
Again, I appreciate the work you have put for this page. That still stands. Mahesh gandikota ( talk) 16:10, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
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Disclaimers: I am responding to a third opinion request made at WP:3O. I have made no previous edits on Herbert Callen and cannot recall any prior interaction with the editors involved in this discussion which might bias my response. The third opinion process (FAQ) is informal and I have no special powers or authority apart from being a fresh pair of eyes. Third opinions are not tiebreakers and should not be "counted" in determining whether or not consensus has been reached. My personal standards for issuing third opinions can be viewed here. One particularly wise Third Opinion Wikipedian, RegentsPark, once succinctly put the purpose of Third Opinions like this, "It's sort of like if you're having an argument on the street in front of City Hall and turn to a passer-by to ask 'hey, is it true that the Brooklyn Bridge is for sale?'." |
Opinion: The "According to the Center for Disease Control..." sentence is, for purpose of this article, improper editorializing. Though supported by an apparently reliable source, its introduction into this article amounts to original research about Herbert Callen as it amounts to a Wikipedia editor's comment upon the facts of the article. Readers who want more information about Alzheimer's Disease can click through the link to the article about it. On the other hand, the use of the word "suffered" in the first sentence of the paragraph is also original research and "battled" is preferable since it is supported by "struggle" in the New York Times obituary. I hate to be so cold-blooded as to say this but if Callen struggled, he probably suffered - as do most Alzheimer's victims (including my mother, who also died from it) - but we don't know that as a fact as to Callen in particular so it's original research and a word that says what the source says is the proper choice. |
What's next: Once you've considered this opinion click here to see what happens next.— TransporterMan ( TALK) 18:33, 22 July 2020 (UTC) |
OK, fine. I'll remove the "extra" bit about Alzheimer's disease. But the rest shall stay. 11 years is a long time to fight a disease that happens to be a leading cause of death in his country. Nerd271 ( talk) 18:36, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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Hey Nerd271, I appreciate you contributing a lot of content towards this physicist who is one of my favorites. You reverted my edit of removing a line `According to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Alzheimer's remained a leading cause of death in the United States in 2016.[10]'. My edit was with the notion that this line belongs to the page of Alzheimer's disease and not here.
Your explanation of reverting was `Previous edition was better'. Could you please tell me how writing about Alzheimer's disease in Herbert Callen's page is relevant to Herbert Callen? Mahesh gandikota ( talk) 06:15, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Maybe you imply by `at least those of us who are curious' that I am not curious. Everyone of us are curious. That's why you provided the link to Alzheimer's in this article. I totally agree with you on that. However, I still do not agree with you adding the line about Alzheimer's diseases in USA on the page of a physicist.
Again, I appreciate the work you have put for this page. That still stands. Mahesh gandikota ( talk) 16:10, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Response to Third Opinion Request: |
Disclaimers: I am responding to a third opinion request made at WP:3O. I have made no previous edits on Herbert Callen and cannot recall any prior interaction with the editors involved in this discussion which might bias my response. The third opinion process (FAQ) is informal and I have no special powers or authority apart from being a fresh pair of eyes. Third opinions are not tiebreakers and should not be "counted" in determining whether or not consensus has been reached. My personal standards for issuing third opinions can be viewed here. One particularly wise Third Opinion Wikipedian, RegentsPark, once succinctly put the purpose of Third Opinions like this, "It's sort of like if you're having an argument on the street in front of City Hall and turn to a passer-by to ask 'hey, is it true that the Brooklyn Bridge is for sale?'." |
Opinion: The "According to the Center for Disease Control..." sentence is, for purpose of this article, improper editorializing. Though supported by an apparently reliable source, its introduction into this article amounts to original research about Herbert Callen as it amounts to a Wikipedia editor's comment upon the facts of the article. Readers who want more information about Alzheimer's Disease can click through the link to the article about it. On the other hand, the use of the word "suffered" in the first sentence of the paragraph is also original research and "battled" is preferable since it is supported by "struggle" in the New York Times obituary. I hate to be so cold-blooded as to say this but if Callen struggled, he probably suffered - as do most Alzheimer's victims (including my mother, who also died from it) - but we don't know that as a fact as to Callen in particular so it's original research and a word that says what the source says is the proper choice. |
What's next: Once you've considered this opinion click here to see what happens next.— TransporterMan ( TALK) 18:33, 22 July 2020 (UTC) |
OK, fine. I'll remove the "extra" bit about Alzheimer's disease. But the rest shall stay. 11 years is a long time to fight a disease that happens to be a leading cause of death in his country. Nerd271 ( talk) 18:36, 22 July 2020 (UTC)