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I want to explain my edits in the Marriage and Children section. The previous version of "Marriage & children" said:
He married Maud de Mandeville, daughter of Geoffrey Fitz Peter, 1st Earl of Essex. Their children were:
1. Humphrey IV should be Humphrey V. The numbering scheme is vital in the de Bohuns as there are eventually X Humphreys. Humphrey IV was the father of Henry (d. 1 Jun 1220). (Humphrey IV is Henry's father, not his son.)
2. Maud and 3. Ralph are incorrect.
My source is:
Cawley, Charles; Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, Medieval Lands Project; ENGLAND, EARLS CREATED 1067-1122 v3.1; HEREFORD, EARLS of HEREFORD 1200-1373 (BOHUN) (Chap 2D); Humphrey III de Bohun [1]
More can be found on these sources at Cawley's Bibliography [2]
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2. Maud de Bohun was Henry de Bohun's sister, not his daughter. Her father, and Henry's father, was Humphrey III de Bohun.
link to Maud (Matilda) de Bohun [3]
Cawley cites these references for Maud (Matilda):
[518] Calendar of Inquisitions post mortem, Vol. 1, no. 558, cited in Phillips, C. (ed.) Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, Vol. XII/2, pp. 363-5, at < http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/> (26 Apr 2004).
[519] Curiæ Regis Rolls, Vol. I, 6 Ric I, p. 20.
[520] Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. I, Henry III, 558, p. 168.
[521] Pipe Roll 11 Hen II (1164/65), p. 71.
[522] Pipe Roll Society (1894) Feet of Fines of the reign of Henry II and of the first seven years of Richard I 1182 to 1196 (London), 114, p. 99.
[523] Rotuli de Oblatis et Finibus, p. 5.
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3. Ralph de Bohun was NOT the father of "Sir Franco" Francis de Bohun who married Sibyl de Ferrers: link to Ralph de Bohun [4]
Cawley source for Ralph is:
[563] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Walden Abbey, Essex, I, Fundationis Historia, p. 139.
link to Francis de Bohun who married Sibyl de Ferrers: [5]
Cawley shows Francis's parents:
SAVARY de Bohun of Midhurst, Ford & Huntington, Sussex (-d. before 11 Apr 1246). married CECILY, daughter of GEOFFREY FitzPiers Earl of Essex & his second wife Aveline de Clare (-1253). and his grandparents:
FRANCO de Bohun, son of GELDUIN FitzSavary & his wife Estrangia --- (-d. after 31 Mar 1190). married ROHAIS, daughter of --- (-d. after 1195).
Cawley cites these sources for Francis de Bohun:
[1550] Annals of Ireland, Chartulary of Dublin St Mary’s Vol. II, p. 314.
[1551] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 2949, p. 439.
Cawley also shows a son named Henry who died young, so I've added him.
[6] Cawley citations for Henry:
[561] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Walden Abbey, Essex, I, Fundationis Historia, p. 139.
[562] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire, II, Fundatorum progenies, p. 135.
That is why I changed Humphrey's numeral, deleted Maud, added Henry who died young, and deleted "Sir Franco" and Sibyl from Ralph's entry.
Ninanta ( talk) 19:57, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
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I want to explain my edits in the Marriage and Children section. The previous version of "Marriage & children" said:
He married Maud de Mandeville, daughter of Geoffrey Fitz Peter, 1st Earl of Essex. Their children were:
1. Humphrey IV should be Humphrey V. The numbering scheme is vital in the de Bohuns as there are eventually X Humphreys. Humphrey IV was the father of Henry (d. 1 Jun 1220). (Humphrey IV is Henry's father, not his son.)
2. Maud and 3. Ralph are incorrect.
My source is:
Cawley, Charles; Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, Medieval Lands Project; ENGLAND, EARLS CREATED 1067-1122 v3.1; HEREFORD, EARLS of HEREFORD 1200-1373 (BOHUN) (Chap 2D); Humphrey III de Bohun [1]
More can be found on these sources at Cawley's Bibliography [2]
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2. Maud de Bohun was Henry de Bohun's sister, not his daughter. Her father, and Henry's father, was Humphrey III de Bohun.
link to Maud (Matilda) de Bohun [3]
Cawley cites these references for Maud (Matilda):
[518] Calendar of Inquisitions post mortem, Vol. 1, no. 558, cited in Phillips, C. (ed.) Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, Vol. XII/2, pp. 363-5, at < http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/> (26 Apr 2004).
[519] Curiæ Regis Rolls, Vol. I, 6 Ric I, p. 20.
[520] Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. I, Henry III, 558, p. 168.
[521] Pipe Roll 11 Hen II (1164/65), p. 71.
[522] Pipe Roll Society (1894) Feet of Fines of the reign of Henry II and of the first seven years of Richard I 1182 to 1196 (London), 114, p. 99.
[523] Rotuli de Oblatis et Finibus, p. 5.
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3. Ralph de Bohun was NOT the father of "Sir Franco" Francis de Bohun who married Sibyl de Ferrers: link to Ralph de Bohun [4]
Cawley source for Ralph is:
[563] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Walden Abbey, Essex, I, Fundationis Historia, p. 139.
link to Francis de Bohun who married Sibyl de Ferrers: [5]
Cawley shows Francis's parents:
SAVARY de Bohun of Midhurst, Ford & Huntington, Sussex (-d. before 11 Apr 1246). married CECILY, daughter of GEOFFREY FitzPiers Earl of Essex & his second wife Aveline de Clare (-1253). and his grandparents:
FRANCO de Bohun, son of GELDUIN FitzSavary & his wife Estrangia --- (-d. after 31 Mar 1190). married ROHAIS, daughter of --- (-d. after 1195).
Cawley cites these sources for Francis de Bohun:
[1550] Annals of Ireland, Chartulary of Dublin St Mary’s Vol. II, p. 314.
[1551] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 2949, p. 439.
Cawley also shows a son named Henry who died young, so I've added him.
[6] Cawley citations for Henry:
[561] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Walden Abbey, Essex, I, Fundationis Historia, p. 139.
[562] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire, II, Fundatorum progenies, p. 135.
That is why I changed Humphrey's numeral, deleted Maud, added Henry who died young, and deleted "Sir Franco" and Sibyl from Ralph's entry.
Ninanta ( talk) 19:57, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 16:26, 16 January 2020 (UTC)