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I've added some information about the sourcing of the photo of Gates at the moment of his arrest Tombarfield ( talk) 14:17, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
I accept the reversion based on external linking, but given that the article mentions the Harvard Crimson and the AP, would it be inappropriate to link to the
Demotix wiki page?
Tombarfield (
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09:22, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
It has been reported that Gates and Crowley met up again recently [1]. Certainly an interesting postscript to the whole affair. Remember ( talk) 20:46, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
A minor thing - but entirely facts-based: The cited source on this page (Washington Post) lists Gates' beer choice as Sam Adams Light. Interestingly, NPR lists his selection as Red Stripe [2]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Synalle ( talk • contribs) 08:00, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
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I question the statement that "The arrest generated a national debate about whether or not it represented an example of racial profiling by police." That really implies that the debate was about whether Cowley was a racist. However all of the evidence show Sgt Crowley behaved properly, indeed impeccably. Professor Gates however was abusive, agitated, and most importantly made racist remarks about Crowley. This was indeed debated subsequently. So wasn't the national debate really about whether Gates' comments, and his false assumption that Crowley was racist, was not itself racist?
Gates automatically assumed that a white police officer was a racist, based solely on the color of his skin. If that isn't racism, I don't know what is. If I was the police officer, I would have shot gates on the spot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.97.133 ( talk) 19:49, 17 March 2011 (UTC) |
Per best practices outlined at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Linking, I've removed the random link added by another user to a quote. If there is a good reason for adding this link, please use this section to make your case. Thanks. Viriditas ( talk) 04:38, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
This entire article is biased and would best just be deleted. There is no controversy. A man was breaking into a house and when the Cambridge police questioned him he became beligerant and used abusive disrectful language. The article is written by someone who still wants this to be a controversy. The controversy is the President's iaapropriate reactions to the point of having a press release and berating the Cambridge police: inappropriate because this was not a matter of the federal government and inappropriate for the President of the United States to insert himself in the middle of a local police issue. The President's priority is to safeguard the safety of the United States and its citizens not take sides in a local issue. Danleywolfe ( talk) 14:46, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
I would like to request that the picture of Sgt. Crowley be replaced with one that is more neutral, or at least in line with that of Professor Gates. As it stands now, Professor Gates has a neutral-to-friendly expression, while Sgt. Crowley is frowning, and looking aggressive. This is beyond Wikipedia's rules on neutrality. A simple Google Images search for "Sgt. James Crowley" yields a lot of friendly-looking shots of him that can go perfectly well with the shot of Gates.
I would replace the picture myself, but unfortunately, I have no idea how to upload a pic to Wikipedia. DeeJaye6 ( talk) 15:51, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
14 years later, and Wikipedia is still referring to this travesty of policing and racial profiling as a "controversy", when it was never such. If you've ever met Dr. Gates and taken a moment to talk with him in person, there's no way anyone could possibly mistake him for a criminal (I said this on the talk page back in 2009 and I feel it needs to be said again). We need a new title. Viriditas ( talk) 21:18, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
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I've added some information about the sourcing of the photo of Gates at the moment of his arrest Tombarfield ( talk) 14:17, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
I accept the reversion based on external linking, but given that the article mentions the Harvard Crimson and the AP, would it be inappropriate to link to the
Demotix wiki page?
Tombarfield (
talk)
09:22, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
It has been reported that Gates and Crowley met up again recently [1]. Certainly an interesting postscript to the whole affair. Remember ( talk) 20:46, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
A minor thing - but entirely facts-based: The cited source on this page (Washington Post) lists Gates' beer choice as Sam Adams Light. Interestingly, NPR lists his selection as Red Stripe [2]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Synalle ( talk • contribs) 08:00, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
no actionable proposal to edit article - this is not a chat WP:FORUM |
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The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. |
I question the statement that "The arrest generated a national debate about whether or not it represented an example of racial profiling by police." That really implies that the debate was about whether Cowley was a racist. However all of the evidence show Sgt Crowley behaved properly, indeed impeccably. Professor Gates however was abusive, agitated, and most importantly made racist remarks about Crowley. This was indeed debated subsequently. So wasn't the national debate really about whether Gates' comments, and his false assumption that Crowley was racist, was not itself racist?
Gates automatically assumed that a white police officer was a racist, based solely on the color of his skin. If that isn't racism, I don't know what is. If I was the police officer, I would have shot gates on the spot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.97.133 ( talk) 19:49, 17 March 2011 (UTC) |
Per best practices outlined at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Linking, I've removed the random link added by another user to a quote. If there is a good reason for adding this link, please use this section to make your case. Thanks. Viriditas ( talk) 04:38, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
This entire article is biased and would best just be deleted. There is no controversy. A man was breaking into a house and when the Cambridge police questioned him he became beligerant and used abusive disrectful language. The article is written by someone who still wants this to be a controversy. The controversy is the President's iaapropriate reactions to the point of having a press release and berating the Cambridge police: inappropriate because this was not a matter of the federal government and inappropriate for the President of the United States to insert himself in the middle of a local police issue. The President's priority is to safeguard the safety of the United States and its citizens not take sides in a local issue. Danleywolfe ( talk) 14:46, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
I would like to request that the picture of Sgt. Crowley be replaced with one that is more neutral, or at least in line with that of Professor Gates. As it stands now, Professor Gates has a neutral-to-friendly expression, while Sgt. Crowley is frowning, and looking aggressive. This is beyond Wikipedia's rules on neutrality. A simple Google Images search for "Sgt. James Crowley" yields a lot of friendly-looking shots of him that can go perfectly well with the shot of Gates.
I would replace the picture myself, but unfortunately, I have no idea how to upload a pic to Wikipedia. DeeJaye6 ( talk) 15:51, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
14 years later, and Wikipedia is still referring to this travesty of policing and racial profiling as a "controversy", when it was never such. If you've ever met Dr. Gates and taken a moment to talk with him in person, there's no way anyone could possibly mistake him for a criminal (I said this on the talk page back in 2009 and I feel it needs to be said again). We need a new title. Viriditas ( talk) 21:18, 9 November 2023 (UTC)