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As the original image was ridiculously deleted on Commons, I've uploaded a new one. It can be found under File:HenryCLodgeJr.jpg. Someone may put it into the article when it is unlocked. -- Scooter (this one) 19:39, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Can someone please add [[Category:United States vice-presidential candidates, 1960]] to the category listings. Thank you.-- JayJasper ( talk) 19:15, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
The Jr suffix is only used when the child has the exact same name as the parent. He was named after his grandfather.-- 201.29.57.64 ( talk) 15:08, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
I think I figured it out. After his father (George Lodge) died, little Henry Lodge (at the time 7-yrs) was un-officially adopted by his grandfather Henry Lodge & thus as the grandson/adopted son, changed his name from Henry C. Lodge II to Henry C. Lodge Jr. GoodDay ( talk) 21:29, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
The NYT has always and consistently used "Jr." for him, and never has used "II" for him. I consider this fairly dispositive since the term "Jr." does not require it only be used for son and father. Cheers. Collect ( talk) 20:42, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
You forgot to mention he was a Rothschild Zionist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.5.101.158 ( talk) 00:14, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
The section on his tenure as ambassador to South Vietnam reads as though he was acting with approval of the Kennedy administration, which gives the section a conservative twist. In fact, Lodge disregarded explicit orders and encouraged the coup against Diem entirely on his own hook, and the assassination of him and his brother. He was described as being "gleeful" at the murders. Kennedy was dismayed and horrified by this, not only because the two brothers were Catholics but because Lodge's actions knocked the props out from under the president's policy of limited action in Vietnam. Kennedy had intended to organize a "friendly exile" for Diem. Instead, Lodge's actions were largely responsible for the immediate explosion of the anti-war peace movement in 1963. See Ira Stoll's new book, JFK, Conservative (Chap. 8), for details, which will be out in October 2013. -- Michael K Smith Talk 15:22, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
He was ambassador in Spain during six years and play an important role in the return of Franquism to the international scene. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.156.128.139 ( talk) 19:12, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 01:49, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
I feel the need to make some edits to the Vietnam section. Some of the language is wooden, or ungrammatical. For example:
"In course of this binge of drinking and sex, Đôn played on Dinh's ego, saying that a "national hero" like him should be in the cabinet, which showed Diem's rank ingratiate.
"rank ingratiate"? What is that?
But as I read more closely, this section is particular does not read like an encyclopedia.
"Lodge for his part was a man of dynamic energy and immense ambition who very much wanted to be president, and believed that if he was successful as an ambassador to an important American ally in the middle of a crisis, that would help his presidential ambitions."
"When Kennedy asked Lodge if he was willing to serve as an ambassador, Lodge replied: "If you need me, of course, I want to do it"."
This second bit seems like something one would see in an encyclopedia. Is that true of the first sentence? That sentence seems appropriate for Langguth's book, which is a historical narrative, has a viewpoint, and is not an ecyclopedia.
And, later, "only to receive the absurd reply that the Hue incident was the work of the Viet Cong". An "absurd reply"? Again, is this how an encyclopedia presents things?
Am I wrong about this? I would welcome comment before I take the time to edit.
RayKiddy ( talk) 01:51, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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As the original image was ridiculously deleted on Commons, I've uploaded a new one. It can be found under File:HenryCLodgeJr.jpg. Someone may put it into the article when it is unlocked. -- Scooter (this one) 19:39, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Can someone please add [[Category:United States vice-presidential candidates, 1960]] to the category listings. Thank you.-- JayJasper ( talk) 19:15, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
The Jr suffix is only used when the child has the exact same name as the parent. He was named after his grandfather.-- 201.29.57.64 ( talk) 15:08, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
I think I figured it out. After his father (George Lodge) died, little Henry Lodge (at the time 7-yrs) was un-officially adopted by his grandfather Henry Lodge & thus as the grandson/adopted son, changed his name from Henry C. Lodge II to Henry C. Lodge Jr. GoodDay ( talk) 21:29, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
The NYT has always and consistently used "Jr." for him, and never has used "II" for him. I consider this fairly dispositive since the term "Jr." does not require it only be used for son and father. Cheers. Collect ( talk) 20:42, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
You forgot to mention he was a Rothschild Zionist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.5.101.158 ( talk) 00:14, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
The section on his tenure as ambassador to South Vietnam reads as though he was acting with approval of the Kennedy administration, which gives the section a conservative twist. In fact, Lodge disregarded explicit orders and encouraged the coup against Diem entirely on his own hook, and the assassination of him and his brother. He was described as being "gleeful" at the murders. Kennedy was dismayed and horrified by this, not only because the two brothers were Catholics but because Lodge's actions knocked the props out from under the president's policy of limited action in Vietnam. Kennedy had intended to organize a "friendly exile" for Diem. Instead, Lodge's actions were largely responsible for the immediate explosion of the anti-war peace movement in 1963. See Ira Stoll's new book, JFK, Conservative (Chap. 8), for details, which will be out in October 2013. -- Michael K Smith Talk 15:22, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
He was ambassador in Spain during six years and play an important role in the return of Franquism to the international scene. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.156.128.139 ( talk) 19:12, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 01:49, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
I feel the need to make some edits to the Vietnam section. Some of the language is wooden, or ungrammatical. For example:
"In course of this binge of drinking and sex, Đôn played on Dinh's ego, saying that a "national hero" like him should be in the cabinet, which showed Diem's rank ingratiate.
"rank ingratiate"? What is that?
But as I read more closely, this section is particular does not read like an encyclopedia.
"Lodge for his part was a man of dynamic energy and immense ambition who very much wanted to be president, and believed that if he was successful as an ambassador to an important American ally in the middle of a crisis, that would help his presidential ambitions."
"When Kennedy asked Lodge if he was willing to serve as an ambassador, Lodge replied: "If you need me, of course, I want to do it"."
This second bit seems like something one would see in an encyclopedia. Is that true of the first sentence? That sentence seems appropriate for Langguth's book, which is a historical narrative, has a viewpoint, and is not an ecyclopedia.
And, later, "only to receive the absurd reply that the Hue incident was the work of the Viet Cong". An "absurd reply"? Again, is this how an encyclopedia presents things?
Am I wrong about this? I would welcome comment before I take the time to edit.
RayKiddy ( talk) 01:51, 28 February 2021 (UTC)