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Thanks again and I completed the task more critique is welcome Diaa abdelmoneim ( talk) 13:44, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
A few suggestions for improvement so the article will be able clear GA and A-class reviews, and maybe even FA:
Beyond these points everything looks good to go, although I may add a few comments later after I eat (its dinner time here). TomStar81 ( Talk) 02:39, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Diaa abdelmoneim, you have done a very commendable job raising this article from a stub! Egypt’s aviation endeavors are poorly known and this will be a good step toward making more information available. It still has a way to go to achieve GA status, though, and I concur with TomStar81 that what it most needs is some expansion on coverage; stylistically, it’s in pretty good shape. Specific information that might be added or expanded upon are
Some of the sections are a little stilted (stiff and artificially formal) and could be reworked. Take this sentence, for instance:
The test flight for the glider, being towed by an He-111, wasn't completed due to instability and the airplane didn't even get airborne.
The mention of the He-111 towing the glider breaks the flow of the sentence. It would be better to rework that into something like:
Towed by an He-111, the test flight for the glider wasn't completed due to instability and the airplane didn't even get airborne."
This version uses the common American colloquialism "never got off the ground", which means the probject was never completed. It's somewhat of a pun here and it which makes the sentence flow a little more smoothly:
Originally planned to be towed by an He-111, the test flight for the glider never got off the ground, due to instability problems.
Although I'm not particularly happy with the first dependant clause there, by suggesting that they'd planned to have an He-111 tow the glider, instead of saying that it was towed by it, we avoid the problem of "How was the glider towed by an He-111 if it never even got off the ground?" If the glider was actually towed around on the runways, is there any more information on what happened during the towing? So let's see if we can't rephrase it a little more, like:
Messerschmitt planned to have an He-111 tow the glider but, due to instability problems, the test flight for the glider never got off the ground.
That'd be good, or something like that. ;) Banaticus ( talk) 19:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
There are several fact tags that need to be covered with cites and one online source needs a telling name and a date of retrieval.
The coverage is not complete. Go for Kurt Tank. He was involved with fighter designs in India, Egypt and Argentinia and in Egypt special airbase was established for this fighter. These designs were based on German designs during WWII because of the limited test capabilities in these countries. Wandalstouring ( talk) 17:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
added the citations -- Diaa abdelmoneim ( talk) 11:04, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
In the HA-300 article the quotation is He therefore moved to Spain where he set up the Hispano Aviación aviation company and started designing an ultra light fighter aircraft in 1951. But in the article on Hispano Aviación it is stated the manufaturer was founded in 1939. As the link to EADS is dead, I'm not sure what the correct version is (I can guess...) -- Antheii ( talk) 13:32, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks again and I completed the task more critique is welcome Diaa abdelmoneim ( talk) 13:44, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
A few suggestions for improvement so the article will be able clear GA and A-class reviews, and maybe even FA:
Beyond these points everything looks good to go, although I may add a few comments later after I eat (its dinner time here). TomStar81 ( Talk) 02:39, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Diaa abdelmoneim, you have done a very commendable job raising this article from a stub! Egypt’s aviation endeavors are poorly known and this will be a good step toward making more information available. It still has a way to go to achieve GA status, though, and I concur with TomStar81 that what it most needs is some expansion on coverage; stylistically, it’s in pretty good shape. Specific information that might be added or expanded upon are
Some of the sections are a little stilted (stiff and artificially formal) and could be reworked. Take this sentence, for instance:
The test flight for the glider, being towed by an He-111, wasn't completed due to instability and the airplane didn't even get airborne.
The mention of the He-111 towing the glider breaks the flow of the sentence. It would be better to rework that into something like:
Towed by an He-111, the test flight for the glider wasn't completed due to instability and the airplane didn't even get airborne."
This version uses the common American colloquialism "never got off the ground", which means the probject was never completed. It's somewhat of a pun here and it which makes the sentence flow a little more smoothly:
Originally planned to be towed by an He-111, the test flight for the glider never got off the ground, due to instability problems.
Although I'm not particularly happy with the first dependant clause there, by suggesting that they'd planned to have an He-111 tow the glider, instead of saying that it was towed by it, we avoid the problem of "How was the glider towed by an He-111 if it never even got off the ground?" If the glider was actually towed around on the runways, is there any more information on what happened during the towing? So let's see if we can't rephrase it a little more, like:
Messerschmitt planned to have an He-111 tow the glider but, due to instability problems, the test flight for the glider never got off the ground.
That'd be good, or something like that. ;) Banaticus ( talk) 19:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
There are several fact tags that need to be covered with cites and one online source needs a telling name and a date of retrieval.
The coverage is not complete. Go for Kurt Tank. He was involved with fighter designs in India, Egypt and Argentinia and in Egypt special airbase was established for this fighter. These designs were based on German designs during WWII because of the limited test capabilities in these countries. Wandalstouring ( talk) 17:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
added the citations -- Diaa abdelmoneim ( talk) 11:04, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
In the HA-300 article the quotation is He therefore moved to Spain where he set up the Hispano Aviación aviation company and started designing an ultra light fighter aircraft in 1951. But in the article on Hispano Aviación it is stated the manufaturer was founded in 1939. As the link to EADS is dead, I'm not sure what the correct version is (I can guess...) -- Antheii ( talk) 13:32, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
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