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User:4.47.127.133 says the movie is "great and definitely worth watching". I have removed this comment from the article (too POV of course) and put it here. <KF> 04:53, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hello, Dolly's 10 Tony Awards was a record held 37 years until The Producers garnered 12 Tonys in 2001. Company was nominated for 11 Tony Awards, but "only" won 5.
I, for one, agree the film version is notable enough to deserve its own page separate from the musical (though I wasn't the one to put up the split tag). thoughts? Reimelt 18:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Work is needed on the structure and comprehensiveness of this article; as it currently stands, the article is all lead, no body (see WP:LEAD). The body is also very listy, and short on any content typical of Wikipedia articles. For an example of a featured article on a straight play, see The Country Wife, which gives a good idea of the type of sections one expects to find in a comprehensive article. This article doesn't tell our readers much about Dolly; if this is the standard, it's not surprising that MT is not represented at all in WP:GA or WP:FA. Suggestions at WP:MUSICALS are a good starting place for completing and beefing up this article to a more comprehensive piece, conforming with [[WP:MOS] and WP:LEAD. The article history shows that there was more of an article structure at year-end 2006; merging the current content and text with the earlier and a better structure might help. Also, I'm noticing Trivia sections in many musical articles, which should be eliminated (see WP:TRIVIA). Comments ? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 14:31, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
If you would stop moving the sections around and leave them where WP:MUSICALS guidelines indicate that they should go, it will be easier for everyone to see and discuss the various textual changes that can be made. Plot synopsis sections do not belong in the introduction of WP articles -- WP:LEAD suggests that the intro should be an overview of the rest of the article, rather than a plot summary section. -- Ssilvers 16:13, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I am simply following WP consensus on WP:LEAD and the article structure described under the WP:MUSICAL project and similar projects like WP:WPO and WP:G&S. I disagree with you about the plot section: Having a separate section gives the plot more prominence than sticking it into the introduction section. The table of contents clearly indicates where it is so that readers can find it easily. I have reorganized the article using the structure described in the Musicals project, and I have also made many of the corrections that you suggest above. I think we need more detail on the subsequent productions. Best regards. -- Ssilvers 05:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia articles are supposed to begin with an introduction that is an overview of the article and so, yes, it should contain information that is discussed below in more detail. See WP:LEAD. I don't demand anything. I merely point out that you ignore the WP:CONSENSUS of editors on Wikipedia and repeatedly delete information from articles that the consensus of editors find useful. -- Ssilvers 18:22, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
There is already a separate article about the film, so we don't need a separate section here. Maybe we should slim down the discussion of the film more, since people can read the film's article. -- Ssilvers 16:10, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough, but it is played over and over on TV, so if we say it's a dud, we should just note that it continues to be popular on TV. -- Ssilvers 16:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I agree with that. But this (now) one-liner should not get its own heading. Best regards, Ssilvers 17:31, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Surely it is notable that a major motion picture was made of the musical. I don't think a disambiguation notice fulfills our responsibility to mention this in the article. I'll fix it later. -- Ssilvers 19:12, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I will have to get my copy of the musical, but the plot synopsis seems a little thin. Perhaps, when I find my copy, I will come back and flesh it out a little more. 66.192.126.3 10:33, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
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I was editing the song list and I noticed that there seem to be some inconsistancies in how the "cast members who have no particular role in the musical but still dance and sing" are referred to in the song list. I usually use the term "Chorus." However, I also see the terms "Ensemble", "Dancers", and "Company". Do each of these terms have a slightly different meaning? The dancers don't actually sing; do they still deserve to be mentioned on the list? Also, "The Polka Contest" is not an actual song; it is just a the polka music used for, well, the Harmonia Gardens' Polka Contest. The cast members listed after it make it look like it involves some singing, which it doesn't. I was in a production of Hello, Dolly! two years ago and I think I remember everything correctly, but I wouldn't want to make any errors. Does anyone else have any opinions regarding this? MarianKroy ( talk) 18:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! I've made some edits now, and I'm pretty happy with them. However, "Dancing" starts out as a song with Dolly teaching Cornelius and Barnaby to dance. Then they dance with the ladies and sing together in front of the curtain as the scene changes to Central Park. Then when the curtain opens again, the ensemble is there dancing. How should I best notate this? MarianKroy ( talk) 21:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I just saw Wall-E two days ago, and "Put on Your Sunday Clothes" and "It Only Takes A Moment" are a very significant part of the movie. However, all the music and video clips are from the movie, not the Broadway production. I don't know if this matters, since it's really just trivia. MarianKroy ( talk) 13:16, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Today I deleted an item (which had no WP:RS) about a Broadway revival "soon", "possibly with Patti LuPone in the title role. This, however, is unconfirmed.". I believe that this is still in the rumor stage and, although reported in the New York Times ( [2])(yes, it is quite easy to find sources), the nature of that article makes it clear that this is not "set" and is truly unconfirmed. Should others disagree, feel free to add it, but I think it should be phrased carefully and referenced according to standard Wikipedia guidelines ( WP:VERIFY). JeanColumbia ( talk) 17:45, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
The following link in "References" looks broken:
Bovsun, Mara. From 'Hello, Dolly!': Dolly Gallagher Levi. barbra-archives.com. Retrieved on 2007-04-08.
I've marked it to check. Lincoln Josh ( talk) 17:35, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
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Ermengarde also has been replaced for the 2019-20 tour. If Ambrose has been listed, a mention that Ermengarde has also been replaced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truthbetoldalways ( talk • contribs)
Please, stop deleting non-English language official productions from the chart. JoshuaPers ( talk) 06:25, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
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User:4.47.127.133 says the movie is "great and definitely worth watching". I have removed this comment from the article (too POV of course) and put it here. <KF> 04:53, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hello, Dolly's 10 Tony Awards was a record held 37 years until The Producers garnered 12 Tonys in 2001. Company was nominated for 11 Tony Awards, but "only" won 5.
I, for one, agree the film version is notable enough to deserve its own page separate from the musical (though I wasn't the one to put up the split tag). thoughts? Reimelt 18:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Work is needed on the structure and comprehensiveness of this article; as it currently stands, the article is all lead, no body (see WP:LEAD). The body is also very listy, and short on any content typical of Wikipedia articles. For an example of a featured article on a straight play, see The Country Wife, which gives a good idea of the type of sections one expects to find in a comprehensive article. This article doesn't tell our readers much about Dolly; if this is the standard, it's not surprising that MT is not represented at all in WP:GA or WP:FA. Suggestions at WP:MUSICALS are a good starting place for completing and beefing up this article to a more comprehensive piece, conforming with [[WP:MOS] and WP:LEAD. The article history shows that there was more of an article structure at year-end 2006; merging the current content and text with the earlier and a better structure might help. Also, I'm noticing Trivia sections in many musical articles, which should be eliminated (see WP:TRIVIA). Comments ? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 14:31, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
If you would stop moving the sections around and leave them where WP:MUSICALS guidelines indicate that they should go, it will be easier for everyone to see and discuss the various textual changes that can be made. Plot synopsis sections do not belong in the introduction of WP articles -- WP:LEAD suggests that the intro should be an overview of the rest of the article, rather than a plot summary section. -- Ssilvers 16:13, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I am simply following WP consensus on WP:LEAD and the article structure described under the WP:MUSICAL project and similar projects like WP:WPO and WP:G&S. I disagree with you about the plot section: Having a separate section gives the plot more prominence than sticking it into the introduction section. The table of contents clearly indicates where it is so that readers can find it easily. I have reorganized the article using the structure described in the Musicals project, and I have also made many of the corrections that you suggest above. I think we need more detail on the subsequent productions. Best regards. -- Ssilvers 05:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia articles are supposed to begin with an introduction that is an overview of the article and so, yes, it should contain information that is discussed below in more detail. See WP:LEAD. I don't demand anything. I merely point out that you ignore the WP:CONSENSUS of editors on Wikipedia and repeatedly delete information from articles that the consensus of editors find useful. -- Ssilvers 18:22, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
There is already a separate article about the film, so we don't need a separate section here. Maybe we should slim down the discussion of the film more, since people can read the film's article. -- Ssilvers 16:10, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough, but it is played over and over on TV, so if we say it's a dud, we should just note that it continues to be popular on TV. -- Ssilvers 16:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I agree with that. But this (now) one-liner should not get its own heading. Best regards, Ssilvers 17:31, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Surely it is notable that a major motion picture was made of the musical. I don't think a disambiguation notice fulfills our responsibility to mention this in the article. I'll fix it later. -- Ssilvers 19:12, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I will have to get my copy of the musical, but the plot synopsis seems a little thin. Perhaps, when I find my copy, I will come back and flesh it out a little more. 66.192.126.3 10:33, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
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I was editing the song list and I noticed that there seem to be some inconsistancies in how the "cast members who have no particular role in the musical but still dance and sing" are referred to in the song list. I usually use the term "Chorus." However, I also see the terms "Ensemble", "Dancers", and "Company". Do each of these terms have a slightly different meaning? The dancers don't actually sing; do they still deserve to be mentioned on the list? Also, "The Polka Contest" is not an actual song; it is just a the polka music used for, well, the Harmonia Gardens' Polka Contest. The cast members listed after it make it look like it involves some singing, which it doesn't. I was in a production of Hello, Dolly! two years ago and I think I remember everything correctly, but I wouldn't want to make any errors. Does anyone else have any opinions regarding this? MarianKroy ( talk) 18:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! I've made some edits now, and I'm pretty happy with them. However, "Dancing" starts out as a song with Dolly teaching Cornelius and Barnaby to dance. Then they dance with the ladies and sing together in front of the curtain as the scene changes to Central Park. Then when the curtain opens again, the ensemble is there dancing. How should I best notate this? MarianKroy ( talk) 21:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I just saw Wall-E two days ago, and "Put on Your Sunday Clothes" and "It Only Takes A Moment" are a very significant part of the movie. However, all the music and video clips are from the movie, not the Broadway production. I don't know if this matters, since it's really just trivia. MarianKroy ( talk) 13:16, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Today I deleted an item (which had no WP:RS) about a Broadway revival "soon", "possibly with Patti LuPone in the title role. This, however, is unconfirmed.". I believe that this is still in the rumor stage and, although reported in the New York Times ( [2])(yes, it is quite easy to find sources), the nature of that article makes it clear that this is not "set" and is truly unconfirmed. Should others disagree, feel free to add it, but I think it should be phrased carefully and referenced according to standard Wikipedia guidelines ( WP:VERIFY). JeanColumbia ( talk) 17:45, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
The following link in "References" looks broken:
Bovsun, Mara. From 'Hello, Dolly!': Dolly Gallagher Levi. barbra-archives.com. Retrieved on 2007-04-08.
I've marked it to check. Lincoln Josh ( talk) 17:35, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
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Ermengarde also has been replaced for the 2019-20 tour. If Ambrose has been listed, a mention that Ermengarde has also been replaced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truthbetoldalways ( talk • contribs)
Please, stop deleting non-English language official productions from the chart. JoshuaPers ( talk) 06:25, 6 February 2022 (UTC)